The Apprentice 2014.......................

The Apprentice 2014.......................

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robsco

7,829 posts

176 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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CoolHands said:
robsco said:
Interesting, thanks. Surely a hosiery specialist would be able to supply this sort of product with a click of a finger.
No. That's the whole point.

I think its a goer.
Why not? I'm not trying to be obtuse, I just can't grasp what is special about the idea. It seems that she is referring to making tights in a slightly darker colour to suit slightly darker skins. Why wouldn't an industry that already supplies tights in hundreds of different shades and patterns be able to adapt to this?

rpguk

4,465 posts

284 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Mark seems to be going into SEO/web marketing (I'd hope more the latter). Not a very exciting business but could be solid, good growth market and most of the cost is going to be on marketing the company and wages. Sugar has apparently done OK with Ricky Martin's recruitment agency which isn't a million miles away in terms of how I'd imagine the company to be structured.

Tights for people with darker skin seem to already exist and if there's a market it's going to be very easy for one of the bigger brands to just order some darker materials and have them in their existing distribution channels in no time. I wouldn't have thought that £250k would get you too far, you've gotta get the products manufactured and then marketed and £250k in the fashion world isn't a great deal of marketing.

ETA

Spoiler removed as spoilers do not work on the mobile beta (mobile or desktop view). And that may give the game away to many unsuspecting members.

Edited by rpguk on Wednesday 17th December 23:19




Edited by Big Al. on Wednesday 17th December 23:33

8Ace

2,682 posts

198 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Have you just ruined it?

DSLiverpool

14,741 posts

202 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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If Marks company offered to increase my web site sales I would use them, Ideally I don't want to know what they do I just want more profitable sales, not many / any selling this way.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

212 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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It seems he has. Why not put it in spoiler tags FFS.

robsco

7,829 posts

176 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Oh dear.

CoolHands

18,630 posts

195 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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robsco said:
CoolHands said:
robsco said:
Interesting, thanks. Surely a hosiery specialist would be able to supply this sort of product with a click of a finger.
No. That's the whole point.

I think its a goer.
Why not? I'm not trying to be obtuse, I just can't grasp what is special about the idea. It seems that she is referring to making tights in a slightly darker colour to suit slightly darker skins. Why wouldn't an industry that already supplies tights in hundreds of different shades and patterns be able to adapt to this?
Traditionally stuff for black people has not been made. That's why there are quite a few niche products made by non-mainstream manufacturers. Eg many hair products for black women are made by unusual manufacturers we've (whities) never heard of. (I should qualify that there are'a'couple of big manufacturers that do now before someone jumps on me). Same for this type of product. Plus moisturiesers (spelling), beauty products etc. I guess in the o,d days the margins were too small (smaller market) and manu. costs higher (presumably come down in recent years due to increased access to 3rd world countries).

rpguk

4,465 posts

284 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Oops, stuck some spoiler tags there for now. FWIW for the sake of a few hundred quid I'd have thought they'd try and register both names. It's quite possible that the other one might have already been in use or be objected to. It was just something I posted as a matter of interest rather then being anything that I thought was conclusive.

Marty Funkhouser

5,426 posts

181 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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CoolHands said:
robsco said:
Interesting, thanks. Surely a hosiery specialist would be able to supply this sort of product with a click of a finger.
No. That's the whole point.

I think its a goer.
Presumably there are technical reasons in the manufacturing process that prevents the production of the tights she wants to make?

Funk

26,274 posts

209 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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This article completely echoes my earlier comments about the stupidity of the 'process' by having the business plans and interviews last:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/the-...

Utterly pointless. Roisin was by far and away the most credible person there based on performance in the 'tasks'. However, none of that mattered when they looked at her business plan - so why bother making her do all the previous tasks!?

Absurd.

I reckon Bianca will win and Mark needs a swift reminder of what hubris means; he's not anywhere near as good as he thinks he is.

Zad

12,699 posts

236 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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It is probably more of an issue with shops that would potentially sell the product. Simply having in stock a hundred different shades would take up a huge amount of space in a high-street store, and would lead to a lot of dead stock. conversely, if you are ordering online, then colour matching to the wearer's skin is going to be tricky.

Of all the potential ideas though, she seems to have thought it through better than the rest, and claims to have approached manufacturer(s). It is a very scalable product, and has the obvious "exit point" of being sold to a major manufacturer after a few years work.


Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Funk said:
This article completely echoes my earlier comments about the stupidity of the 'process' by having the business plans and interviews last:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/the-...

Utterly pointless. Roisin was by far and away the most credible person there based on performance in the 'tasks'. However, none of that mattered when they looked at her business plan - so why bother making her do all the previous tasks!?

Absurd.
I know this is the traditional answer to this question - But because they're principal objective IS NOT to find a home for £250,000 - it is to make an amusing hour of television. The money is thing is second fiddle.

If they all had lovely credible business plans, they would probably all be lovely credible people. Then in the tasks they would all play nicely together, make a whole bunch of money and they would get ratings of a few thousand.

or alternatively they could get the idiot who said 'I am the complete business man - women are putty in my hands!' He'll get on peoples tits and hundreds of thousands will watch our program.




The Don of Croy

5,998 posts

159 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Poor Soloman. Great ideas just pouring out, but they whither and die on the fallow ground of a disinterested world...

On the other hand, pitching a logistics operation that majors on the brand logo which uses the letters 'UPS' is going to get you exactly nowhere, even with the mighty Sugar and his hefty £250k in the bank. A large American outfit has been using that name and the term 'logistics' for a while now, and they're big enough to sink Sugar, Soloman and umpteen others in a heartbeat if you tread on their toes.

He was lucky he didn't get further into the defenestration with Claude the bogey man because there was so much he could have used against him.

Nice bloke though.

Looking forward to the finale - will they demonstrate the tights in a typical East End dodgy geezer blag?


Jonsnow606

116 posts

114 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Yup, for me Solomon, Daniel, and James made this year's apprentice...

And the obvious eye candy.

KTF

9,805 posts

150 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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jammy_basturd said:
It seems he has. Why not put it in spoiler tags FFS.
Go on then, what did I miss? A link to the website of the winner?

Evangelion

7,724 posts

178 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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No point in watching now Roisin's gone.

Might as well just revisit the previous epidoses on iPlayer while we still can.

Oakey

27,565 posts

216 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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I didn't see this posted (went back and checked):

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/apprentice-star...

Makes you wonder why he bothered coming on the show.

http://www.weeklyquiz.co.uk/

Am I missing something here, there's really a business in 'creating quizzes'? How fking difficult is it for a landlord to come up with a few quiz questions?

Edited by Oakey on Thursday 18th December 11:52

Jasandjules

69,885 posts

229 months

DSLiverpool

14,741 posts

202 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Oakey said:
I didn't see this posted (went back and checked):

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/apprentice-star...

Makes you wonder why he bothered coming on the show.

http://www.weeklyquiz.co.uk/

Am I missing something here, there's really a business in 'creating quizzes'? How fking difficult is it for a landlord to come up with a few quiz questions?

Edited by Oakey on Thursday 18th December 11:52
I smell PR

mikerons88

239 posts

113 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Evangelion said:
No point in watching now Roisin's gone.

Might as well just revisit the previous epidoses on iPlayer while we still can.
This
Hopefully she accepts her offers from Zoo/FHM/Nuts