True Detective

[Halb]

Another top 70's detective reference!


I recognised that Taylor fella from John Carter....wow he has no screen presence or charisma....why the fk does he gets jobs?

[redtwin]

It's not 9pm yet!.

I nearly clicked submit with my views on the latest episode earlier, thought it was odd that there was no activity regarding it.

Kitsch gets jobs for the same reason Zac Efron gets jobs and if you have to ask what that reason is, you are clearly not an 18-24 year old female...or gay.

Edited by redtwin on Monday 6th July 11:40

[Halb]

redtwin said:

It's not 9pm yet!.

I nearly clicked submit with my views on the latest episode earlier, thought it was odd that there was no activity regarding it.

Kitsch gets jobs for the same reason Zac Efron gets jobs and if you have to ask what that reason is, you are clearly not an 18-24 year old female...or gay.

Edited by redtwin on Monday 6th July 11:40

I thought that might be the reason, 'cas, Jesus...he is the sts.

[redtwin]

Maybe he just gets crap roles such as this one. I just can't weigh up why we needed a sub story about a closeted copper. There are enough moody characters to go moping around.

That said, the latest episode was much more enjoyable, I was losing hope after last week.

[SWoll]

Just finished EP3 and seeing no signs of improvement unfortunately. Stylish and well acted but below par in every other way.

Reminds me of Nicolas Winding Refn movie like Drive or Only God Forgives.

[mudflaps]

I'm 50/50 now on whether to waste any more of my time on this. It's slow beyond belief and whilst that can be a good thing this time it's just not working for me. I'll give it one more go.

[JustinP1]

SWoll said:

Just finished EP3 and seeing no signs of improvement unfortunately. Stylish and well acted but below par in every other way.

Reminds me of Nicolas Winding Refn movie like Drive or Only God Forgives.

To be fair, I think Drive has a lot more going for it than Only God Forgives. The former was brilliant, the latter disappeared up itself and just felt empty. A 9 compared to a 5.

I'm really enjoying this True Detective. Yes, it's different in style to the first, but I like both styles. Like a said after the first Ep it's very David Lynch in pacing and style with shades of film noir.

I like that, whilst I appreciate other's don't. It's still high quality stuff though. True Detective season 3 I'm sure will be a different city and a different style again.

[GetCarter]

Seriously lacking the great inter-personal relationship between WH and MM from Season 1... which is what made it so special.

Great shame. Let's face it, it was never going to reach the heights of the original... but still worth a watch. Just.

I am recording the rest and will watch in a 'one'... may well work better that way. So I am out of this thread until it's termination!

[type-r]

Completely agree too. You just simply don't care about any of these characters. Great shame.

[Halb]

redtwin said:

Maybe he just gets crap roles such as this one. I just can't weigh up why we needed a sub story about a closeted copper. There are enough moody characters to go moping around.

That said, the latest episode was much more enjoyable, I was losing hope after last week.

He's never popped up on my radar, but after watching John Carter for a second viewing at the weekend (and realising that it's the same fella) I see he has very little screen presence/charisma. He has abs and cheekbones.

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I am hoping the next series is somewhere Mid-West, like Michigan or WYoming...get a a Fargo/No COuntry feel.
Big skies!
I think the relationship between the sheriff and the burn-out might grow into something rather cool.

The 'city' of 95 people idea is interesting, intend to wiki it.

[wjb]

I understand the comparisons to season 1, but let's be right, season 1 of TD was one of the best series ever broadcast on TV, this didn't stand a chance to live up to it, not much on TV ever will.

I'm still enjoying it, looking forward to ep4.

[JustinP1]

GetCarter said:

Seriously lacking the great inter-personal relationship between WH and MM from Season 1... which is what made it so special.

I think you can watch a hell of a lot of stuff, not just series, but film and not see interplay like that, and the monologues especially like the chap who I used to call Mahogany in the 00's were truly exceptional too.

What's also changed is that there are now three detectives who before Ep 1 had never met each other.

Further to that, I'd say one of the things that made TD 1 so interesting was the narrative device of the present day being their current selves, and retelling the story with the rest in flashback in a police interview.

(Something that the writers of The Affair have mercilessly copied...!)

I think it's easy to compare, and natural too, but if TD Season 2 was in fact a totally new show - I'd still be watching and enjoying it, without feeling the need to make comparisons.

[JustinP1]

Halb said:

The 'city' of 95 people idea is interesting, intend to wiki it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernon,_California

This is what it's based on. There's similarities even down to the Major not living in his city, but in Bel Air...!

The similarity is obviously intentional. The wiki shows the landmark of Vernon being the water tower with Vernon on - on TD this was replaced digitally with Vinci.

[SWoll]

JustinP1 said:

SWoll said:

Just finished EP3 and seeing no signs of improvement unfortunately. Stylish and well acted but below par in every other way.

Reminds me of Nicolas Winding Refn movie like Drive or Only God Forgives.

To be fair, I think Drive has a lot more going for it than Only God Forgives. The former was brilliant, the latter disappeared up itself and just felt empty. A 9 compared to a 5.

I'm really enjoying this True Detective. Yes, it's different in style to the first, but I like both styles. Like a said after the first Ep it's very David Lynch in pacing and style with shades of film noir.

I like that, whilst I appreciate other's don't. It's still high quality stuff though. True Detective season 3 I'm sure will be a different city and a different style again.

Whilst Drive was a better movie than OGF (not a difficult task) it was still very much style over substance IMHO. Too much broody bullst and not enough charm.

I personally think this series is an absolute mess so far even in comparison to other shows let alone Season 1. Too many clichéd characters with no real personality and lazy dialogue and plot points.

I can see what you mean about Lynch, the opening scene of EP3 had a definite Twin Peaks vibe to it but as with a lot of Lynch's work there isn't much underneath the surface polish and feeling of general oddness. Same goes for the majority of noir, it just doesn't have the depth for me.

[Vyse]

If season 2 continues like this its starting to tarnish the good work that was season 1 of True Detective. How can you go from mind blowingly good to just plain awful?

[mudflaps]

JustinP1 said:

I think it's easy to compare, and natural too, but if TD Season 2 was in fact a totally new show - I'd still be watching and enjoying it, without feeling the need to make comparisons.

I'm not comparing it to anything else at all. Even without series 1 as a point of reference this would still not, in my opinion, be good TV.

[sooperscoop]

Well, that went mental.

[motorizer]

Yep, that livened it up a bit....

[Halb]

That's the best shoot-out I've seen since the last one on TDS1.

[motorizer]

what happened to the reporter and film crew that it showed earlier, filming near where the shootout ended up? I didn't see them get splatted, did they get it on camera?