996 Turbo - Suspension upgrade
Discussion
Been contemplating a coilover kit as my possible next upgrade!
Bilstein and KW seem to be mentioned quite a lot.
Be interested to hear feedback from anyone who as fitted either of these sytems, or any other systems for that matter.
Also does anyone have any idea what the cost would be, (i.e. labour hours), at a reputable indy for fitting this type of suspension kit if I sourced it myself? (Bilsteins seem to pop up from time to time on ebay, but usually from US suppliers).
When fitting a suspension upgrade kit are there any other parts which will normally need to be replaced, i.e. bushes?
Presumably a 4 wheel alignment will be needed if the kit lowers the suspension?
Bilstein and KW seem to be mentioned quite a lot.
Be interested to hear feedback from anyone who as fitted either of these sytems, or any other systems for that matter.
Also does anyone have any idea what the cost would be, (i.e. labour hours), at a reputable indy for fitting this type of suspension kit if I sourced it myself? (Bilsteins seem to pop up from time to time on ebay, but usually from US suppliers).
When fitting a suspension upgrade kit are there any other parts which will normally need to be replaced, i.e. bushes?
Presumably a 4 wheel alignment will be needed if the kit lowers the suspension?
Hi,
The Bilstein kits are very good but just a little too soft for hard track useage in my opinion. You could probably get it valved and sprung differently.
Perfect for everyday and light track use.
It WILL need a four wheel alignment and all the ride heights/corner weights setting.
Rough cost would be 7 hours labour for removal and refitting. Then £260 for wheel alignment/corner weight.
You may require some additional items like top suspension mounts and lower suspension arms depending on condition.
Mike
The Bilstein kits are very good but just a little too soft for hard track useage in my opinion. You could probably get it valved and sprung differently.
Perfect for everyday and light track use.
It WILL need a four wheel alignment and all the ride heights/corner weights setting.
Rough cost would be 7 hours labour for removal and refitting. Then £260 for wheel alignment/corner weight.
You may require some additional items like top suspension mounts and lower suspension arms depending on condition.
Mike
sportsandclassic said:
Hi,
The Bilstein kits are very good but just a little too soft for hard track useage in my opinion. You could probably get it valved and sprung differently.
Perfect for everyday and light track use.
It WILL need a four wheel alignment and all the ride heights/corner weights setting.
Rough cost would be 7 hours labour for removal and refitting. Then £260 for wheel alignment/corner weight.
You may require some additional items like top suspension mounts and lower suspension arms depending on condition.
Mike
The Bilstein kits are very good but just a little too soft for hard track useage in my opinion. You could probably get it valved and sprung differently.
Perfect for everyday and light track use.
It WILL need a four wheel alignment and all the ride heights/corner weights setting.
Rough cost would be 7 hours labour for removal and refitting. Then £260 for wheel alignment/corner weight.
You may require some additional items like top suspension mounts and lower suspension arms depending on condition.
Mike
Hi Mike
How does the x73 kit compare to the Bilstein kits. Interested for use mainly on B roads
thanks
Moosh said:
sportsandclassic said:
Hi,
The Bilstein kits are very good but just a little too soft for hard track useage in my opinion. You could probably get it valved and sprung differently.
Perfect for everyday and light track use.
It WILL need a four wheel alignment and all the ride heights/corner weights setting.
Rough cost would be 7 hours labour for removal and refitting. Then £260 for wheel alignment/corner weight.
You may require some additional items like top suspension mounts and lower suspension arms depending on condition.
Mike
The Bilstein kits are very good but just a little too soft for hard track useage in my opinion. You could probably get it valved and sprung differently.
Perfect for everyday and light track use.
It WILL need a four wheel alignment and all the ride heights/corner weights setting.
Rough cost would be 7 hours labour for removal and refitting. Then £260 for wheel alignment/corner weight.
You may require some additional items like top suspension mounts and lower suspension arms depending on condition.
Mike
Hi Mike
How does the x73 kit compare to the Bilstein kits. Interested for use mainly on B roads
thanks
In my opinion the Bilstein kit is the way forward for the turbo that is being used for light track work and decent road driving, you can also have the dampers serviced and rebuilt as required.
Mike
I have a KW3 set up on my car. The original owner was definitely a track orientated owner and it was very low ( you could not see the tops of the tyres at the front). The handling is great, but dialled down this low meant it was had quite hard a ride and even the camber of the road outside my drive dragged the front splitter. I had it re geo'ed in the summer and cranked up a bit, it is far from a monster truck look now, but is much more drivable as it can manage speed bumps better. I can't compare to the original set up, but having driven quite a few cars over the years it is definitely the most planted car I have driven never mind owned
stubbsy996 said:
Been contemplating a coilover kit as my possible next upgrade!
Bilstein and KW seem to be mentioned quite a lot.
Be interested to hear feedback from anyone who as fitted either of these sytems, or any other systems for that matter.
Also does anyone have any idea what the cost would be, (i.e. labour hours), at a reputable indy for fitting this type of suspension kit if I sourced it myself? (Bilsteins seem to pop up from time to time on ebay, but usually from US suppliers).
When fitting a suspension upgrade kit are there any other parts which will normally need to be replaced, i.e. bushes?
Presumably a 4 wheel alignment will be needed if the kit lowers the suspension?
Thanks for all the responses so far!Bilstein and KW seem to be mentioned quite a lot.
Be interested to hear feedback from anyone who as fitted either of these sytems, or any other systems for that matter.
Also does anyone have any idea what the cost would be, (i.e. labour hours), at a reputable indy for fitting this type of suspension kit if I sourced it myself? (Bilsteins seem to pop up from time to time on ebay, but usually from US suppliers).
When fitting a suspension upgrade kit are there any other parts which will normally need to be replaced, i.e. bushes?
Presumably a 4 wheel alignment will be needed if the kit lowers the suspension?
I should have mentioned car is/will only be used on the road as I have no foreseeable intention of tracking (but you never know)
Hi
I had KW v3 suspension fitted to my old 996 Turbo S along with a full rebush. Made the world of difference compared to stock suspension which was pretty tired with all that torque being laid down over the years. Can't compare to Bilstein, but the kit I had made the car much more engaging and fun on the road. Seriously flat aswell through the corners. Being v3 it can be set up lots of different ways so you'd need to make sure to get someone who knows what they are doing on the geo etc. Only downside was as above I had ride height set quite low and removed a few splitters...
Go for it, I think a suspension refresh is one of the best things you can do to an older Porsche.
Cheers
Slodge
I had KW v3 suspension fitted to my old 996 Turbo S along with a full rebush. Made the world of difference compared to stock suspension which was pretty tired with all that torque being laid down over the years. Can't compare to Bilstein, but the kit I had made the car much more engaging and fun on the road. Seriously flat aswell through the corners. Being v3 it can be set up lots of different ways so you'd need to make sure to get someone who knows what they are doing on the geo etc. Only downside was as above I had ride height set quite low and removed a few splitters...
Go for it, I think a suspension refresh is one of the best things you can do to an older Porsche.
Cheers
Slodge
Well I finally took the plunge and ordered the Bilstein PSS10 coilover kit from Gert at Carnewal in Belgium!
Cost, with a good current exchange rate of €1.3+ to £1, worked out just over £1,900 including delivery, which is a lot cheaper than you can source the kit in the UK.
Car goes into Autostrasse on Friday for fitting and set up. I'll probably ask them to set it up on it's softest setting with minimum lowering and then see how I get on, as I'm not planning on tracking the car.
Watch this space and I'll post as to whether there's any improvement on the standard set up.
Cost, with a good current exchange rate of €1.3+ to £1, worked out just over £1,900 including delivery, which is a lot cheaper than you can source the kit in the UK.
Car goes into Autostrasse on Friday for fitting and set up. I'll probably ask them to set it up on it's softest setting with minimum lowering and then see how I get on, as I'm not planning on tracking the car.
Watch this space and I'll post as to whether there's any improvement on the standard set up.
slodge said:
Hi
I had KW v3 suspension fitted to my old 996 Turbo S along with a full rebush. Made the world of difference compared to stock suspension which was pretty tired with all that torque being laid down over the years. Can't compare to Bilstein, but the kit I had made the car much more engaging and fun on the road. Seriously flat aswell through the corners. Being v3 it can be set up lots of different ways so you'd need to make sure to get someone who knows what they are doing on the geo etc. Only downside was as above I had ride height set quite low and removed a few splitters...
Go for it, I think a suspension refresh is one of the best things you can do to an older Porsche.
Cheers
Slodge
Ive been eying up the v1 system. I dont need that much adjustment but id like to be able to drop it a little bit. Would you say the quality is pretty good?I had KW v3 suspension fitted to my old 996 Turbo S along with a full rebush. Made the world of difference compared to stock suspension which was pretty tired with all that torque being laid down over the years. Can't compare to Bilstein, but the kit I had made the car much more engaging and fun on the road. Seriously flat aswell through the corners. Being v3 it can be set up lots of different ways so you'd need to make sure to get someone who knows what they are doing on the geo etc. Only downside was as above I had ride height set quite low and removed a few splitters...
Go for it, I think a suspension refresh is one of the best things you can do to an older Porsche.
Cheers
Slodge
stubbsy996 said:
Well I finally took the plunge and ordered the Bilstein PSS10 coilover kit from Gert at Carnewal in Belgium!
Cost, with a good current exchange rate of €1.3+ to £1, worked out just over £1,900 including delivery, which is a lot cheaper than you can source the kit in the UK.
Car goes into Autostrasse on Friday for fitting and set up. I'll probably ask them to set it up on it's softest setting with minimum lowering and then see how I get on, as I'm not planning on tracking the car.
Watch this space and I'll post as to whether there's any improvement on the standard set up.
Great let us know how you get on. Also how much is fitting?Cost, with a good current exchange rate of €1.3+ to £1, worked out just over £1,900 including delivery, which is a lot cheaper than you can source the kit in the UK.
Car goes into Autostrasse on Friday for fitting and set up. I'll probably ask them to set it up on it's softest setting with minimum lowering and then see how I get on, as I'm not planning on tracking the car.
Watch this space and I'll post as to whether there's any improvement on the standard set up.
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