The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 4]
Discussion
London424 said:
Bit of a Unit said:
It is always amusing to watch the glee with which our defeats are received.
We lost 5-3 to an exceptional Leicester performance, fair play to them. As Keyser has said compared with this time last year I am loving it. 1996 under Fergie with Cantona in his pomp we got done by Newcastle 5-0, then Southampton 6-3 and then a poor Chelsea beat us as well, three league defeats and on the spin and a fourth was seen in Europe. How did that season end up?
The s
t I saw at Old Trafford last season , weak lifeless 1-0 defeats to teams that haven't had their day for years was far far worse than this. The attacking line up seems to be gelling very very quickly and as recent history at United proves, new defensive players take longer to bed in. Remember Vidic and Evra joining as unheard of young players? They had a nightmare settling in. Going back further Pallister was a fault for all 5 goals in derby spanking early on after joining. How did they turn out?
Why did Arsenal want Smalling? Jones, like him or not his stats were second best in the league before his injury. Blackett, Rojo and Blind are all new to the first team the latter having only played twice and we have yet to see Shaw. Finally we lost our most experienced defender during the Leicester match. Losing Rio, Vidic and Evra was a blow, the latter 2 more so but we get ste for not giving the youngsters a chance then ste for not signing a "world class" centre half! Who was available?
The Dutch Master will be drilling the fk out of the the defence, shaping the line using the errors made this season so far. You know what I think he'll get it right and not only will be playing the best football we've seen since Ronnie left will be back to winning ways as well.
I don't know if you watch football much (it's unclear as you seem surprised by some pretty obvious things)but it's quite common practice for fans of other teams to take delight in opposing teams losing...especially to teams they are expected to beat. We lost 5-3 to an exceptional Leicester performance, fair play to them. As Keyser has said compared with this time last year I am loving it. 1996 under Fergie with Cantona in his pomp we got done by Newcastle 5-0, then Southampton 6-3 and then a poor Chelsea beat us as well, three league defeats and on the spin and a fourth was seen in Europe. How did that season end up?
The s
t I saw at Old Trafford last season , weak lifeless 1-0 defeats to teams that haven't had their day for years was far far worse than this. The attacking line up seems to be gelling very very quickly and as recent history at United proves, new defensive players take longer to bed in. Remember Vidic and Evra joining as unheard of young players? They had a nightmare settling in. Going back further Pallister was a fault for all 5 goals in derby spanking early on after joining. How did they turn out? Why did Arsenal want Smalling? Jones, like him or not his stats were second best in the league before his injury. Blackett, Rojo and Blind are all new to the first team the latter having only played twice and we have yet to see Shaw. Finally we lost our most experienced defender during the Leicester match. Losing Rio, Vidic and Evra was a blow, the latter 2 more so but we get s
te for not giving the youngsters a chance then ste for not signing a "world class" centre half! Who was available? The Dutch Master will be drilling the f
k out of the the defence, shaping the line using the errors made this season so far. You know what I think he'll get it right and not only will be playing the best football we've seen since Ronnie left will be back to winning ways as well. Edited by Bit of a Unit on Tuesday 23 September 10:00
I've got no doubt that Utd will get better, but so far you've played 3 promoted teams and 2 other teams that finished in the bottom half of the table last year...and most likely will again this year, and you have 5 points. Will be interesting to see what happens when you play the big boys again.
The second part of your post displays a degree of intelligence shame about the first.
Bit of a Unit said:
London424 said:
Bit of a Unit said:
It is always amusing to watch the glee with which our defeats are received.
We lost 5-3 to an exceptional Leicester performance, fair play to them. As Keyser has said compared with this time last year I am loving it. 1996 under Fergie with Cantona in his pomp we got done by Newcastle 5-0, then Southampton 6-3 and then a poor Chelsea beat us as well, three league defeats and on the spin and a fourth was seen in Europe. How did that season end up?
The st I saw at Old Trafford last season , weak lifeless 1-0 defeats to teams that haven't had their day for years was far far worse than this. The attacking line up seems to be gelling very very quickly and as recent history at United proves, new defensive players take longer to bed in. Remember Vidic and Evra joining as unheard of young players? They had a nightmare settling in. Going back further Pallister was a fault for all 5 goals in derby spanking early on after joining. How did they turn out?
Why did Arsenal want Smalling? Jones, like him or not his stats were second best in the league before his injury. Blackett, Rojo and Blind are all new to the first team the latter having only played twice and we have yet to see Shaw. Finally we lost our most experienced defender during the Leicester match. Losing Rio, Vidic and Evra was a blow, the latter 2 more so but we get ste for not giving the youngsters a chance then ste for not signing a "world class" centre half! Who was available?
The Dutch Master will be drilling the fk out of the the defence, shaping the line using the errors made this season so far. You know what I think he'll get it right and not only will be playing the best football we've seen since Ronnie left will be back to winning ways as well.
I don't know if you watch football much (it's unclear as you seem surprised by some pretty obvious things)but it's quite common practice for fans of other teams to take delight in opposing teams losing...especially to teams they are expected to beat. We lost 5-3 to an exceptional Leicester performance, fair play to them. As Keyser has said compared with this time last year I am loving it. 1996 under Fergie with Cantona in his pomp we got done by Newcastle 5-0, then Southampton 6-3 and then a poor Chelsea beat us as well, three league defeats and on the spin and a fourth was seen in Europe. How did that season end up?
The s
t I saw at Old Trafford last season , weak lifeless 1-0 defeats to teams that haven't had their day for years was far far worse than this. The attacking line up seems to be gelling very very quickly and as recent history at United proves, new defensive players take longer to bed in. Remember Vidic and Evra joining as unheard of young players? They had a nightmare settling in. Going back further Pallister was a fault for all 5 goals in derby spanking early on after joining. How did they turn out? Why did Arsenal want Smalling? Jones, like him or not his stats were second best in the league before his injury. Blackett, Rojo and Blind are all new to the first team the latter having only played twice and we have yet to see Shaw. Finally we lost our most experienced defender during the Leicester match. Losing Rio, Vidic and Evra was a blow, the latter 2 more so but we get s
te for not giving the youngsters a chance then ste for not signing a "world class" centre half! Who was available? The Dutch Master will be drilling the f
k out of the the defence, shaping the line using the errors made this season so far. You know what I think he'll get it right and not only will be playing the best football we've seen since Ronnie left will be back to winning ways as well. Edited by Bit of a Unit on Tuesday 23 September 10:00
I've got no doubt that Utd will get better, but so far you've played 3 promoted teams and 2 other teams that finished in the bottom half of the table last year...and most likely will again this year, and you have 5 points. Will be interesting to see what happens when you play the big boys again.
The second part of your post displays a degree of intelligence shame about the first.
Other supporters aren't now picking on Utd because they've been successful for so long...it's that other teams supporters haven't had the opportunities that they have had the last couple of seasons.
OllieC said:
Leicester fan here, quite an incredible game from our point of view.
Totally understand the Man U fans being upset by the penalty, I couldn't believe the foul wasn't given, I actually laughed out loud when the ref gave the pen, couldn't believe it.
whether we would have scored under different circumstances is always a debate, but I'm glad that we went on to get another 3, so as to take some of the 'win' away from a dodgy pen.
We were dead lucky to face Utd so out of sorts, I don't think they'll play this badly again for a long time. I cant help but think as well that for all LVG talking about Leicester pre match, he didn't really know how we play and got the tactics wrong as a result, talking about us being a long ball side for example (yes we can be but that's not all we do...)
still, cracking entertainment !
Another Fox here, agree with that - never a penalty. Sat there with my gob wide open at that one.Totally understand the Man U fans being upset by the penalty, I couldn't believe the foul wasn't given, I actually laughed out loud when the ref gave the pen, couldn't believe it.
whether we would have scored under different circumstances is always a debate, but I'm glad that we went on to get another 3, so as to take some of the 'win' away from a dodgy pen.
We were dead lucky to face Utd so out of sorts, I don't think they'll play this badly again for a long time. I cant help but think as well that for all LVG talking about Leicester pre match, he didn't really know how we play and got the tactics wrong as a result, talking about us being a long ball side for example (yes we can be but that's not all we do...)
still, cracking entertainment !
Noticed one thing that Man Utd HAVE managed to carry on from the good old days though - Fergie Time !
6 f
kING MINUTES !!!! Where the juddering fk did that come from? I must have missed the fight amongst the players the ref had to deal with, and the player stretchered off the pitch. And the two streakers. They did happen - right?
Cobnapint said:
Another Fox here, agree with that - never a penalty. Sat there with my gob wide open at that one.
Noticed one thing that Man Utd HAVE managed to carry on from the good old days though - Fergie Time !
6 fkING MINUTES !!!! Where the juddering fk did that come from? I must have missed the fight amongst the players the ref had to deal with, and the player stretchered off the pitch. And the two streakers.
They did happen - right?
The 6 minutes was mental Noticed one thing that Man Utd HAVE managed to carry on from the good old days though - Fergie Time !
6 f
kING MINUTES !!!! Where the juddering fk did that come from? I must have missed the fight amongst the players the ref had to deal with, and the player stretchered off the pitch. And the two streakers. They did happen - right?
Pretty sure neither side wanted it anniesdad said:
fking Clattenburg again...
A blue mate of mine was raging a few weeks back about how bad he was,3 goals that shouldn't have been is a bit beyond a poor decision.this is a man who was made bankrupt I believe a couple of years ago,my blue pal alleged some fr eastern betting syndicates have done well out of him recently.king Clattenburg again...Doesn't excuse how bad we were after the penalty ,and how soft a touch some of the players are,but that was the worst decision I have ever seen,beyond unexplainable .
London424 said:
Your first sentence..."it's always amusing". You seem to be surprised that this hasn't happened since the invention of football. Luckily as a Utd supporter I guess you haven't been subjected to too many of these over the last 20 years.
Other supporters aren't now picking on Utd because they've been successful for so long...it's that other teams supporters haven't had the opportunities that they have had the last couple of seasons.
I guess it's your poor interpretation of the written word. But just to assure you I am not surprised. Other supporters aren't now picking on Utd because they've been successful for so long...it's that other teams supporters haven't had the opportunities that they have had the last couple of seasons.
anniesdad said:
fking Clattenburg again...
Still simmering after 2 days! Is that a new record for a refereeing decision? I was simmering at least a day after the Nani sending off against Madrid and I still haven't forgiven Nani as he was too blame as well!king Clattenburg again...It's still too early in the season to be decisive but it changed the game on Sunday and I'm sure we'd have gone on to win I just hope we bounce back against the Hammers.
Bit of a Unit said:
anniesdad said:
fking Clattenburg again...
Still simmering after 2 days! Is that a new record for a refereeing decision? I was simmering at least a day after the Nani sending off against Madrid and I still haven't forgiven Nani as he was too blame as well!king Clattenburg again...It's still too early in the season to be decisive but it changed the game on Sunday and I'm sure we'd have gone on to win I just hope we bounce back against the Hammers.
London424 said:
Your first sentence..."it's always amusing". You seem to be surprised that this hasn't happened since the invention of football. Luckily as a Utd supporter I guess you haven't been subjected to too many of these over the last 20 years.
Other supporters aren't now picking on Utd because they've been successful for so long...it's that other teams supporters haven't had the opportunities that they have had the last couple of seasons.
You are spot on there. That's why over the last season and a bit, this part of the forum has filled up with "I am a knob-head but have been suppressed for the last 20 years" type posters.Other supporters aren't now picking on Utd because they've been successful for so long...it's that other teams supporters haven't had the opportunities that they have had the last couple of seasons.
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