C70 T5 Issues

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Faxo

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448 posts

138 months

Saturday 25th January 2014
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So I bought a C70 T5 on a 2001 X, which is the year for problems apparently!

Basically, won't idle, just cuts out, but if I get it to rev it misfires and hesitates then cuts out again. Sometimes revs up and down

So, ETM I think (Electronic Throttle Motor), common on this model year

However, if I disconnect the MAF, it'll start and run, albeit abit spluttery and it stinks understandably, but it runs. On idle, the revs will still bounce a little, but it doesn't stall. Reconnect the MAF, back to no idle, cuts out etc

I got a second hand MAF to try, still the same - bought it from a Volvo breakers who said the car they removed it from was ok, but who knows

Now, I get get a brand new apparently genuine Volvo part for £55, this is just eh sensor, no trunking etc which I don't need anyway as the full job lot is Volvo only at £300! To get my ETM reconditioned is £125, plus the ballacbe of removing it

Does this sound like a MAF issue, and I just presume the 2nd hand part was as faulty as mine? Or do I now move onto the ETM and save the money? I cleared the DTCs, and it doesn't run long enough to put new codes in, obv puts MAF codes in when the MAF is removed

Help?!

kwk

562 posts

178 months

Saturday 25th January 2014
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Have you got any lights on the dash?

Faxo

Original Poster:

448 posts

138 months

Saturday 25th January 2014
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EML ETC? And service but only after a while of running with no MAF

kwk

562 posts

178 months

Sunday 26th January 2014
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Well the service is easy to knock off. I've just read your post on one of the Volvo forums and agree that you need the codes read. It could be a number of things. My ETM problem, believe it or not, was caused by a sticking rear caliper when running on cruise which confused the system and brought on the light and surging problems. Changed the caliper and it sorted itself out.

williredale

2,866 posts

152 months

Sunday 26th January 2014
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It doesn't sound like the MAF but as has been said you need to get the codes read by a Volvo machine.

martinrpeachey

749 posts

145 months

Monday 27th January 2014
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My money's on the ETM to be honest. It'll go into a rich "safe" mode with the MAF off, which could explain how it runs slightly better.

morgrp

4,128 posts

198 months

Friday 31st January 2014
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You need to find out what type of throttle body it is running - if it is a marelli unit then it may be trouble. The Bosch units are fine - It could just require a good clean out - They never get done because they are so tricky to remove. The Bosch Airflow meters are available as a non-volvo Bosch part for around 180quid if you shop around - Have you got a code reader?


martinrpeachey

749 posts

145 months

Friday 31st January 2014
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morgrp said:
You need to find out what type of throttle body it is running - if it is a marelli unit then it may be trouble. The Bosch units are fine - It could just require a good clean out - They never get done because they are so tricky to remove. The Bosch Airflow meters are available as a non-volvo Bosch part for around 180quid if you shop around - Have you got a code reader?
On a MY 2001, it'll be a marelli unit frown
Oddly, it's less common for the marelli to fail on a P1 S/C/V 70 than it is on the P2. Not sure why.

Faxo

Original Poster:

448 posts

138 months

Sunday 9th February 2014
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Update

Changed the MAF, no different

Finally decided to bite the bullet and remove the ETM, ready to send away fro refurb

Raised the car, to find this




Popped the pipe back on, new jubilee and she fired up straight away and ran beautifully!

A £2 jubilee was the problem!

Shadow R1

3,798 posts

176 months

Sunday 9th February 2014
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I would replace that other jublie clip, looks ripe for going.

williredale

2,866 posts

152 months

Sunday 9th February 2014
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thumbup and +1 for replacing the other jubilee.