EU remote stopping of cars...

EU remote stopping of cars...

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cuda

Original Poster:

464 posts

239 months

Thursday 30th January 2014
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Had to check it wasn't April 1st already but I guess what we think is a joke is normal in EU-stan:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/e...

WTF?!

GrannieTwoEight

83 posts

143 months

Friday 31st January 2014
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And to think most people scorn those as conspiracy theorists when they tell us what is coming. It's no joke now!

This is why I am trying my best to keep older cars, I think the newer the car the more electronics the more they have these things built in "by coincidence" they can then use them to control peoples actions. I'm sure within ten years they'll be able to actually control the speed of your car if it goes over a limit.

Pistom

4,916 posts

158 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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Isn't The Telegraph one of those publications that used to be a serious paper?

What utter sensationalistic clap-trap.

Developing technology!!! What is there to develop?

Do we care?

What next? The EU has secret plans to conquer the world and exterminate all Jews, Scousers and ayone who doesn't read The Sun. The plan will start with by invading Poland.

Oh st - they've already done that so it must have started already!!!


fatjon

2,144 posts

212 months

Thursday 6th February 2014
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Unfortunately despite the Europhile arse licking post above this is in fact true.

Link to the proposal:

http://www.statewatch.org/news/2014/jan/eu-enlets-...

and if you read it you will see it's the tip of the iceberg in the new and creative ways the EU want to fk us.


ADM06

1,077 posts

171 months

Thursday 6th February 2014
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Bit dangerous that, isn't it? To turn off a car's engine whilst driving along so you get little braking and possibly no steering either.

XJ Flyer

5,526 posts

129 months

Thursday 6th February 2014
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GrannieTwoEight said:
And to think most people scorn those as conspiracy theorists when they tell us what is coming. It's no joke now!

This is why I am trying my best to keep older cars, I think the newer the car the more electronics the more they have these things built in "by coincidence" they can then use them to control peoples actions. I'm sure within ten years they'll be able to actually control the speed of your car if it goes over a limit.
It seems obvious that 'if' they ever do manage to take their ( very real ) control freak ideas to their logical conclusion that they'd also introduce laws which ban the use of 'non compliant' cars or modifications which by pass all the relevant electronic trickery.

SkepticSteve

3,598 posts

193 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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XJ Flyer said:
It seems obvious that 'if' they ever do manage to take their ( very real ) control freak ideas to their logical conclusion that they'd also introduce laws which ban the use of 'non compliant' cars or modifications which by pass all the relevant electronic trickery.
Do Crims worry about that??

Simple signal blocker and that EVO24 is GONE!

Hackney

6,811 posts

207 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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So the police are following suspect vehicle with Reg XY62ABC and decide it should be stopped immediately.

Meanwhile, the owner of car reg XY62ABC - who unbeknownst to him had his plate cloned recently - is 50 miles away and has just pulled out to overtake a lorry on a single lane NSL road as the system operator flicks the switch.....

unsprung

5,467 posts

123 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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An interesting comparison could be with the OnStar suite of services. It's voluntary and paid by subscription.

https://www.onstar.com/

The vehicle slow-down feature is initiated by the car's owner - not by government authorities - after filing a crime report with the police:

OnStar remote vehicle slowdown feature stops carjacking





snapdragon69

207 posts

182 months

Saturday 15th February 2014
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That's the real reason the EU wants that online auto 999 calling crap in every new cars - so that they impose travel embargoes - automatically enforced.

lrs777

238 posts

189 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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I am thinking that if Scotland does gain independence being out of the EU is a major selling point!
Amazes me they see Westminster as the enemy when all the crappy laws being passed are EU laws. That muppet from the EU on TV trying to make out that not getting EU membership might sway voters against independence has surely got to be the biggest shot in the arm to the campaign.

snorton

9 posts

127 months

Friday 21st February 2014
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do you realise, that thinks that are going on became so damn crazy, that we can't even be sure if it is 1st April or reality?!^^

DCHERATH

18 posts

121 months

Tuesday 25th February 2014
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Not sure this a big brother issue.Modern engine management systems could ectopically switch off the car as is, so this is no different. I don't see why this would be an issue. In my old B12 I had the accelerator stick on the A1, just managed not to run into the car in front, having the power go( as occurred in my old TT) as the engine management light came on was just as scary (I was doing near to 70 mph at the time) but again there was enough time to pull on to the hard shoulder. High speed chases cost lives. If this means that there are no more high speed pursuits then I support it, if the police get it wrong and switch my engine off because my plates have been cloned then I am willing to take the risk.

IPuk

16 posts

119 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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ADM06 said:
Bit dangerous that, isn't it? To turn off a car's engine whilst driving along so you get little braking and possibly no steering either.
Yes! and of course there will be many things which could and will go wrong which could end up costing government millions

tortop45

434 posts

159 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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unsprung said:
An interesting comparison could be with the OnStar suite of services. It's voluntary and paid by subscription.

https://www.onstar.com/

The vehicle slow-down feature is initiated by the car's owner - not by government authorities - after filing a crime report with the police:

OnStar remote vehicle slowdown feature stops carjacking
Yes got to agree as i have onstar in my new camaro over here in the uk but dosn,t work ,seems like the satalight can,t see me so im ok at the momment,But the US police can us it when following a stolen car they can make the indicators flash and also slow the car down to a stop ,quit cool if its your car thats been stolen.....

Toaster

2,938 posts

192 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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There is probably an easier way http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25197786

But tracking of every car its every movement could be seen as desirable for some, for example if there was a fuel shortage only allowing cars to make journeys every other day or stopping wholesale movement of cars during a crisis.....

Clivey

5,108 posts

203 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Toaster said:
But tracking of every car its every movement could be seen as desirable for some, for example if there was a fuel shortage only allowing cars to make journeys every other day or stopping wholesale movement of cars during a crisis.....
I struggle to see anything worse. - I would never consent to a system such as the one under discussion being fitted to my car.

Chris Y

221 posts

187 months

Wednesday 9th July 2014
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UKIP save us now!

LukeKerr

45 posts

116 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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The influence the EU is having on motoring in the UK is growing all the time. This latest proposal seems a step too far.

northernblackout

4 posts

116 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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I know you can have remote immobilisation for CAT5 trackers on vehicles, but the secure operating centres require police permisison, and it only activates the next time the vehicle is driven. Thatcham don't allow remote stopping of a vehicle in motion and rightly so! But this EU business is going to only apply to cars made after 2015 I believe, because the OBDII port is going to have an additional antenna on it so it can communicate with the Airwave system..