Transformers: Age of Extinction

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SpeedBash

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2,324 posts

187 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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First trailer relesed during Superbowl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv6fVuvcHis

eltawater

3,114 posts

179 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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Grimlock! woohoo


Lincsblokey

3,175 posts

155 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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Woo hoo! Dinobots!

Rick_1138

3,669 posts

178 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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Haha, they actually went and did it and put Optimus riding Grimlock hahahahahaha.

This film will be ace no matter what now. Happy days.

durbster

10,262 posts

222 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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Bloody hell, another one!? Why do people keep giving Michael Bay money for this st?

Negative Creep

24,977 posts

227 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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The others all looked awesome in the trails but turned out to be utterly terrible (part 2 especially). Still, nice of them to play the trailer in slow motion as it's the only wa we'll ever be able to work out what's going on in the action scenes

Gun

13,431 posts

218 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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durbster said:
Bloody hell, another one!? Why do people keep giving Michael Bay money for this st?
All three previous films have been hugely profitable so why wouldn't they?

ajprice

27,473 posts

196 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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Gun said:
durbster said:
Bloody hell, another one!? Why do people keep giving Michael Bay money for this st?
All three previous films have been hugely profitable so why wouldn't they?
"This st" is what Michael Bay does. Things blow up, things get smashed.

This is going to be a kind of second trilogy, Shia Le Berf out, Mark Wahlberg in, which should improve things. Still big robots, but now with robot dinosaurs, which makes this awesome to your inner nine year old. There's a plot in there somewhere, but hey, robots, explosions, yay! hehe

Civpilot

6,235 posts

240 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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Rick_1138 said:
Haha, they actually went and did it and put Optimus riding Grimlock hahahahahaha.

This film will be ace no matter what now. Happy days.
This.

I watch transformers movies to go wow and the massive destruction and laugh at the sillyness.

Let's get this down here... Optimus Prime... with a sword and shield... riding the back of a frankly HUGE Dinbot T-Rex?

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY MICHAEL BAY!


Lincsblokey

3,175 posts

155 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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Civpilot said:
Rick_1138 said:
Haha, they actually went and did it and put Optimus riding Grimlock hahahahahaha.

This film will be ace no matter what now. Happy days.
This.

I watch transformers movies to go wow and the massive destruction and laugh at the sillyness.

Let's get this down here... Optimus Prime... with a sword and shield... riding the back of a frankly HUGE Dinbot T-Rex?

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY MICHAEL BAY!
^^ This.

durbster

10,262 posts

222 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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Gun said:
durbster said:
Bloody hell, another one!? Why do people keep giving Michael Bay money for this st?
All three previous films have been hugely profitable so why wouldn't they?
Because sometimes profit isn't the only thing.

I saw some of the second Transformers film and it just made me wonder how many good films weren't being made because most of the money available gets thrown at this turgid dross.

The mainstream film industry has got itself stuck in this dumb profit cycle, where they have to churn out this shameless cack beause it's the only way of making enough profit to support... the next one.

The same thing is happening to other industries (gaming in particular). Computer games in the 80s and 90s were full of diversity, imagination and creativity. Mobile gaming should be there now. It's a new medium absolutely brimming with potential with devices capable of huge performance, so we should be in a golden phase of gaming.

Instead, the industry has gone straight for the money and we have to trudge through adverts, scams, credits and in-game payments at the hope of finding some gameplay in there, somewhere.

The sooner people stop paying to see this crap the better for all of us.

That was an unexpected rant hehe

Gun

13,431 posts

218 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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durbster said:
Gun said:
durbster said:
Bloody hell, another one!? Why do people keep giving Michael Bay money for this st?
All three previous films have been hugely profitable so why wouldn't they?
Because sometimes profit isn't the only thing.

I saw some of the second Transformers film and it just made me wonder how many good films weren't being made because most of the money available gets thrown at this turgid dross.

The mainstream film industry has got itself stuck in this dumb profit cycle, where they have to churn out this shameless cack beause it's the only way of making enough profit to support... the next one.

The same thing is happening to other industries (gaming in particular). Computer games in the 80s and 90s were full of diversity, imagination and creativity. Mobile gaming should be there now. It's a new medium absolutely brimming with potential with devices capable of huge performance, so we should be in a golden phase of gaming.

Instead, the industry has gone straight for the money and we have to trudge through adverts, scams, credits and in-game payments at the hope of finding some gameplay in there, somewhere.

The sooner people stop paying to see this crap the better for all of us.

That was an unexpected rant hehe
Profit is everything to the big film producers and always will be.

You may think they're cack but the box office figures suggest there are an awful lot of people out there who think they aren't. Also, how many other films have been given the green light thanks to the huge profits these films make?

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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Looks complete turd.

Rick_1138

3,669 posts

178 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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TBF though, even Bay admits that 2 is utter ste and they noticeably changed style for the 3rd one.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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If they changed it to this, it might be decent.

Veeayt

3,139 posts

205 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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I had a dream in which the film was called Transformers: Extinction Matters. Probably should spend less time on here tongue out

dai1983

2,912 posts

149 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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First one was good but the other two were overtly cheesy like SW: Episodes 1-3. Needs to be more serious and I hope getting rid of Shia The Beef would help this. Unicron, Rodamus Prime, a dead Optimus and 1980s power ballads would help

Negative Creep

24,977 posts

227 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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Rick_1138 said:
they noticeably changed style for the 3rd one.
Did they? I must have missed that because all I saw was terrible writing, awful attempts at humour, fight scenes where you can't work out what was going on, a lead actress who would give the worst performance in a school nativity play, bloated length and Megatron going out like a complete bh yet again. Admittedly there was a lower amount of gobsmacking racism, so that's something I guess

Rick_1138

3,669 posts

178 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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Negative Creep said:
Did they? I must have missed that because all I saw was terrible writing, awful attempts at humour, fight scenes where you can't work out what was going on, a lead actress who would give the worst performance in a school nativity play, bloated length and Megatron going out like a complete bh yet again. Admittedly there was a lower amount of gobsmacking racism, so that's something I guess
Yeah mainly the lack of racism and sans giant robo testicles. This was a big change for bay lol.

Tbf megaton always went out like a bh bar the original animated movie. Tbf it's 2 hours of shouting n giant robots. I expect no more.

ImpossiblyDaft

399 posts

181 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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ajprice said:
"This st" is what Michael Bay does. Things blow up, things get smashed.

This is going to be a kind of second trilogy, Shia Le Berf out, Mark Wahlberg in, which should improve things. Still big robots, but now with robot dinosaurs, which makes this awesome to your inner nine year old. There's a plot in there somewhere, but hey, robots, explosions, yay! hehe
The problem isn't that it's pretty much just action. It's that Michael Bay has long since "lost it" when it comes to actual structuring of the action.
It's just a bunch of random shots of stuff exploding. Nobody expects Citizen Kane or anything out of it, but compare it to his earlier stuff like The Rock and Bad Boys; they have the crazy level of action but it's all structured in a way that makes sense, they have simplistic plots and characterisation that work effectively, etc.

Compare these two:

The "'you just trashed your Ferrari!' 'it's not mine'" chase from The Rock.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBCGkanWm68

It's built up logically out of cause and effect and it has a reasonable spacial awareness to it - the cars go from one location to another.

Action scenes from Transformers 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nsLx95pvyE

Oh, they're running in the middle of a huge building. Then there's some transformers on the other side of the room from each other shooting. Now they're punching each other. Now shooting each other and falling out the wall. Now the people running around the building are in the truck and the Camaro. Now everything is suddenly happening in a forest and the Camaro has been left behind, but there's been nothing to show this having happened. It contains all the consistency of the Old Spice "the tickets are now diamonds" ad and as a result isn't satisfying no matter how big the explosions.

Michael Bay films should be a cinematic burger and fries, but lately it's like he's just poured a bag of sugar on a plate.