Anyone else having a nightmare trying to find a home?

Anyone else having a nightmare trying to find a home?

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Maxf

8,406 posts

241 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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Hoofy said:
NightDriver said:
There's a real lack of decent places coming on the market at the moment so inevitably when it comes up people all want to get in on it. I've noticed round here that a lot of places are coming on, going off within days then coming back again a month or so later just for the cycle to repeat again!
Why are they coming back on the market?

People failing to get mortgages approved?
In London it seems to be that the properties are snapped up by the waiting pool of buyers, only for the vendors to find that they are then in the same boat of being 1 of 30 people trying for the next place, and obviously struggling - hence the sale down the chain failing.

When you sell your place for xx% over asking and have tons of bids, you feel pretty clever. That feeling disappears pretty quickly unless you're moving into another market! I speak from experience.

NightDriver

1,080 posts

226 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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Hoofy said:
Why are they coming back on the market?

People failing to get mortgages approved?
That seems to be the case according to the agents, big offers being made and then when it comes down to it they can't secure the extra bit of mortgage or the valuation is too low. I think it's just a by-product of the auction style atmosphere there seems to be in 'viewing days' agents are seemingly setting up for every property that comes onto the books!

Hoofy

76,341 posts

282 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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Maxf said:
Hoofy said:
NightDriver said:
There's a real lack of decent places coming on the market at the moment so inevitably when it comes up people all want to get in on it. I've noticed round here that a lot of places are coming on, going off within days then coming back again a month or so later just for the cycle to repeat again!
Why are they coming back on the market?

People failing to get mortgages approved?
In London it seems to be that the properties are snapped up by the waiting pool of buyers, only for the vendors to find that they are then in the same boat of being 1 of 30 people trying for the next place, and obviously struggling - hence the sale down the chain failing.

When you sell your place for xx% over asking and have tons of bids, you feel pretty clever. That feeling disappears pretty quickly unless you're moving into another market! I speak from experience.
Haha. fk me. It's just stupid.

Hoofy

76,341 posts

282 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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NightDriver said:
Hoofy said:
Why are they coming back on the market?

People failing to get mortgages approved?
That seems to be the case according to the agents, big offers being made and then when it comes down to it they can't secure the extra bit of mortgage or the valuation is too low. I think it's just a by-product of the auction style atmosphere there seems to be in 'viewing days' agents are seemingly setting up for every property that comes onto the books!
Something I suspected might be the case.

Ilovetwiglets

695 posts

168 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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We sold our house in Maidenhead within a day or two of going on the market to a buyer who didn't even view it, he'd missed out on a few similar properties in the area and was desperate. We had 15 viewings in less than a week and 5 offers but his was the highest. This is at the bottom of the market for this area (£220-300k) where there are very view properties for the first time buyer, take a look at any of the property sites for 2 bed houses in Maidenhead at less than £300k and there is always less than 10. Luckily we have the opportunity to move to a different area where we've bought a 5 bed house with 1/3 acre garden for £30k less than we sold our terrace house.

Hoofy

76,341 posts

282 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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Ilovetwiglets said:
We sold our house in Maidenhead within a day or two of going on the market to a buyer who didn't even view it, he'd missed out on a few similar properties in the area and was desperate. We had 15 viewings in less than a week and 5 offers but his was the highest. This is at the bottom of the market for this area (£220-300k) where there are very view properties for the first time buyer, take a look at any of the property sites for 2 bed houses in Maidenhead at less than £300k and there is always less than 10. Luckily we have the opportunity to move to a different area where we've bought a 5 bed house with 1/3 acre garden for £30k less than we sold our terrace house.
Nicely done. Stupidly, many people get off on thinking about how much their property has increased in value without realising that unless they're planning on leaving the area or downsizing, it is at best meaningless and at worst going to cost them even more to upgrade.

Ilovetwiglets

695 posts

168 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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We can't complain, we only paid £200k in 2010 and sold for £264k, about 18 months ago it was valued at £215k, I'll be glad to get away to be honest although it does mean unless prices plummet we can never move back to the area.

CoolHands

18,606 posts

195 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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Matt.. said:
Just been to do a second check of the property, one obvious potential problem is electrics. It has an old fuse box. What steps should i take with this? Should i get an electrician to check it? (or someone else?), and will this cost? and when do i do it? It will no doubt be raised in the survey as 'electrics need checking'.
all you can really do is get an elctrician to quote for replacement and put it to the vendor to try and knock some off. So you could save the bother of actually getting electrian quote and just put it to the vendor anyway. Eg you want 3 grand off to rewire. They might say ps off or they might knock some money off.

Ilovetwiglets

695 posts

168 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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If the electrics are working fine then why replace them?

DS3R

9,859 posts

166 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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Hoofy said:
Something I suspected might be the case.
That will not be the only reason, especially as only 60% of buyers need mortgages atm- and not all borrowers need to max thesmselves out. Chain problems, changes of mind, problems with a search, all sorts of things. I got 2 large in to purchase (survey plus specialist reports) before the local search (then site inspection from both sols) confirmed the neighbours had put an extension at least 3m over the boundary. No probs with the mortgage, just epic stupidity from friends of 40+ years. Has cost me £30-40k in terms of price rises elsewhere in the interim, which are all sticking...

Edited by DS3R on Saturday 19th April 07:28

Bill Carr

2,234 posts

234 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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Ilovetwiglets said:
Luckily we have the opportunity to move to a different area where we've bought a 5 bed house with 1/3 acre garden for £30k less than we sold our terrace house.
Whereabouts? Sounds great!

Ilovetwiglets

695 posts

168 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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Between Spalding and Wisbech, not the best area but it's rural and very quiet and my wife managed to get a good job in Cambridge so it's all looking good.

Matt..

Original Poster:

3,594 posts

189 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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The market is ridiculous right now. The house i'm progressing with now i've offered well over what i really should have done. However, i have been looking for far too long (years), and the number of suitable properties that have come up this year is 3, and one of them is this house. At the moment i just feel like money is draining away with renting and the amount of money sat in my bank account, so it somewhat makes it more palatable. I am massively surprised the valuation came back more than i offered though. From what i've been hearing elsewhere that isn't the normal situation. Just got to hope it all comes off now. It's my first house so it's hard not to get a little excited by it all (first house, but not the first one i've gone through the buying attempt with). I've got the Sketchup plan done which really helps checking space (i'm getting good with Sketchup with all the houses i've tried to buy!). I do have the continual fear that the chain will collapse though!

porridge

1,109 posts

144 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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My valuation came back as "fair value in view of the current bouyant market" I.e. who knows hehe

And as above, an option is not to update electrics for now, but instead get it tested by an electrian and see if OK (£200-400 I think depending on location/size).

And don't get excited/start telling all and sundry until after exchange.

dazwalsh

6,095 posts

141 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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you wont spend anywhere near 400 on a periodic test, more in the 150 range. If you are leaving the electrics I would get it pencilled in as soon as its feasible. Its a big job and will make a bollix of any decorating you have done, not to mention the dust and the lack of electric during the works.

Bill Carr

2,234 posts

234 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Ilovetwiglets said:
Between Spalding and Wisbech, not the best area but it's rural and very quiet and my wife managed to get a good job in Cambridge so it's all looking good.
Rural and quiet sounds bob-on to me. Plus with a nice-sized plot of land, you're doing alright chap.

Ilovetwiglets

695 posts

168 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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I know, it's what we've always wanted and we had a result with the house sale, it makes a change for things to happen at the right time.

Matt..

Original Poster:

3,594 posts

189 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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I have now received my survey. It's about as pointless as i feared! Things like rating the heating and water heating as serious issues that need to be investigated urgently, but then stating that the reason for this is that they weren't on. Brilliant. However, it is actually better than i thought in terms of potential issues. So that's a good thing! smile Far less red 'this needs urgent attention' bits than the last one i had done!

Edited by Matt.. on Wednesday 23 April 18:02

Ilovetwiglets

695 posts

168 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Ours referred to a water hazard in the garden, that would be the pond then, and internal glass not meeting safety standards...it's 130 years old!

Matt..

Original Poster:

3,594 posts

189 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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Just had an electrical inspection, and the recommendation is just a new consumer box, and a few minor bits of tidy up. Wiring is apparently fine.

Good news really, as that's £500, rather than thousands for a rewire!