War with Russia

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raftom

1,197 posts

261 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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But it seems all that investment in Rubish Today and troll factories isn't getting return.

Russia’s Global Image Negative amid Crisis in Ukraine

skyrover

12,671 posts

204 months

Saturday 12th July 2014
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An armored column of Russian personnel carriers allegedly recorded near Belgorod were seen with blue ‘peacekeeper’ (MC) markings fixed to their rear. This story was affirmed by Mark MacKinnon, senior international correspondent for The Globe and Mail.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q4xnGaClEk

Throughout the day, multiple witness accounts of the symbol appearing on Russian military units in the region were also uploaded by separate users, strengthening the supporting evidence of the ‘peacekeeping’ convoy operating dangerously near Kharkiv.

There has been no official explanation for the units’ presence, but Russia has ratcheted up rhetoric and claims of Ukrainian forces shelling positions in Russia in recent days. Pretext for the invasion of Georgia in 2008 also included claims of Russian peacekeepers dying in Tskhinvali during the Georgian military response to the ongoing South Ossetian insurgency. A similar assault is precipitating in both Donetsk and Luhansk, where Russian-backed insurgents are concentrated and largely surrounded.

Below is a gallery of other Russian ‘peacekeeping’ units bearing the blue MC mark, principally during the occupation of Georgia / South Ossetia.






Grandad7184

2,017 posts

135 months

Thursday 17th July 2014
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passenger plane down on the border with 288 people on board

edited to take the ''s'' out

Edited by Grandad7184 on Thursday 17th July 16:32

LordGrover

33,539 posts

212 months

Thursday 17th July 2014
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I've seen unconfirmed reports of Malaysian 777. Are you saying more than one?

raftom

1,197 posts

261 months

Thursday 17th July 2014
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There were reports that previously today they had shot down two Ukrainians Su-25.

skyrover

12,671 posts

204 months

Thursday 17th July 2014
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The rebels have access to advanced Russian SAM systems which they have picked up at the local army surplus no doubt.



There is also rumor that a Russian SU-27 violated Ukrainian airspace and shot down a Ukraine SU-25.

raftom

1,197 posts

261 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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While in Donetsk things are more stable due to the MH17 crisis, in Lugansk and in the remaining pockets the Ukrainian army and air force are going all in, and things on the ground are changing quickly.

You can follow geolocated live news in http://liveuamap.com


raftom

1,197 posts

261 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Apparently there's been an epidemic of sudden deaths among Russian special forces lately. They keep having accidents while in training or on vacation.

https://translate.google.com/translate?act=url&amp...

skyrover

12,671 posts

204 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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"pro-russian separatist" captured with Russia mafia tattoos all over his body...




Asterix

24,438 posts

228 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Looks like the rations aren't getting through.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

171 months

Tuesday 5th August 2014
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Pole's getting nervous

raftom

1,197 posts

261 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Separatists decide to burn the Ukrainian flag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhoknFZ7qrg

109er

433 posts

130 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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Not very good at it, are they laugh

Filmed the way it was reminded me of Key Stone Cops or a Chaplin film yeslaugh

Edited by 109er on Thursday 21st August 10:52

Finlandia

7,803 posts

231 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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raftom said:
Separatists decide to burn the Ukrainian flag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhoknFZ7qrg
Is that meant to be a satire, or are they really that feckless?

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

165 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Now 10 Russian Paras are captured. Russia claims they were lost! You couldn't make it up.

I am not sure if I am more outraged by Russia's complete lack of respect of borders or their assumption that we are stupid enough to believe this crap.

109er

433 posts

130 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Grumfutock said:
I am not sure if I am more outraged by Russia's complete lack of respect of borders or their assumption that we are stupid enough to believe this crap.
I think you will find that the border is where Russia says it is/will be. tank

AA999

5,180 posts

217 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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I've found myself holding a fairly neutral standpoint through all of this......

But I still wonder why an ethnic group of people aren't allowed the chance to break away from a new regime they feel they have no connection with?
In most other places in the world the west would normally support this action and would not condone the actions of an aggressive regime's military on to part of its own society.

DMN

2,983 posts

139 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Because the ethnic group is in the minority.

AA999

5,180 posts

217 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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DMN said:
Because the ethnic group is in the minority.
And that's good enough reason for them to be indiscriminately shelled/rocketed to the ground?

The same reason didn't stack up well when it came to Israelis vs Palestines.


Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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AA999 said:
I've found myself holding a fairly neutral standpoint through all of this......

But I still wonder why an ethnic group of people aren't allowed the chance to break away from a new regime they feel they have no connection with?
In most other places in the world the west would normally support this action and would not condone the actions of an aggressive regime's military on to part of its own society.
It's about process.

The west supports a sovereign state, deciding to host a fair process that results in a section splitting off should that be the outcome.

The west does not support people from a neighbouring state turning up with weapons, standing on a bit of someone else's sovereign state and saying "this is ours now because we say the people want it to be".