War with Russia
Discussion
greygoose said:
eharding said:
How big is the snow clearing machine that a plane crashed into it?
http://uk.weather.com/weather/today/Moscow+MK+Russ...
It's 4 degrees and raining in Moscow today... how much snow about?
It's 4 degrees and raining in Moscow today... how much snow about?
eharding said:
Magog said:
citizensm1th said:
with tin foil hat firmly in place
a major fire at a uk power station at this time of year?
And CHAPS crashed... time to start stockpiling tinfoil.a major fire at a uk power station at this time of year?
Extra-thick tinfoil.
Total’s de Margerie Sees No Need for Dollars in Oil Purchases
My suspicions were also aroused by this but it turns out he was a big fan of keeping Russian gas flowing to Europe despite the Ukraine crisis, so more of a Putin ally than anything else. I guess that doesn't exclude a criminal hit - that's not uncommon in the upper echelons of Russian business - I wonder if any Total JVs in Russia are going to change hands soon.
skyrover said:
greygoose said:
eharding said:
How big is the snow clearing machine that a plane crashed into it?Bluebarge said:
My suspicions were also aroused by this but it turns out he was a big fan of keeping Russian gas flowing to Europe despite the Ukraine crisis, so more of a Putin ally than anything else. I guess that doesn't exclude a criminal hit - that's not uncommon in the upper echelons of Russian business - I wonder if any Total JVs in Russia are going to change hands soon.
Definitely you would think a Putin ally, especially with not supporting dollars for oil.Edited by Esseesse on Tuesday 21st October 10:20
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/15/opinion/thomas-f...
NYT said:
Is it just my imagination or is there a global oil war underway pitting the United States and Saudi Arabia on one side against Russia and Iran on the other? One can’t say for sure whether the American-Saudi oil alliance is deliberate or a coincidence of interests, but, if it is explicit, then clearly we’re trying to do to President Vladimir Putin of Russia and Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, exactly what the Americans and Saudis did to the last leaders of the Soviet Union: pump them to death — bankrupt them by bringing down the price of oil to levels below what both Moscow and Tehran need to finance their budgets.
Think about this: four oil producers — Libya, Iraq, Nigeria and Syria — are in turmoil today, and Iran is hobbled by sanctions. Ten years ago, such news would have sent oil prices soaring. But today, the opposite is happening. Global crude oil prices have been falling for weeks, now resting around $88 — after a long stretch at $105 to $110 a barrel.
The price drop is the result of economic slowdowns in Europe and China, combined with the United States becoming one of the world’s biggest oil producers — thanks to new technologies enabling the extraction of large amounts of “tight oil” from shale — combined with America starting to make exceptions and allowing some of its newfound oil products to be exported, combined with Saudi Arabia refusing to cut back its production to keep prices higher, but choosing instead to maintain its market share against other OPEC producers. The net result has been to make life difficult for Russia and Iran, at a time when Saudi Arabia and America are confronting both of them in a proxy war in Syria. This is business, but it also has the feel of war by other means: oil.
The Russians have noticed. How could they not? They’ve seen this play before. The Russian newspaper Pravda published an article on April 3 with the headline, “Obama Wants Saudi Arabia to Destroy Russian Economy.” It said: “There is a precedent [for] such joint action that caused the collapse of the U.S.S.R. In 1985, the Kingdom dramatically increased oil production from 2 million to 10 million barrels per day, dropping the price from $32 to $10 per barrel. [The] U.S.S.R. began selling some batches at an even lower price, about $6 per barrel. Saudi Arabia [did not lose] anything, because when prices fell by 3.5 times [Saudi] production increased fivefold. The planned economy of the Soviet Union was not able to cope with falling export revenues, and this was one of the reasons for the collapse of the U.S.S.R.”
http://www.vox.com/2014/10/14/6975977/which-countries-suffer-most-when-oil-prices-plummetThink about this: four oil producers — Libya, Iraq, Nigeria and Syria — are in turmoil today, and Iran is hobbled by sanctions. Ten years ago, such news would have sent oil prices soaring. But today, the opposite is happening. Global crude oil prices have been falling for weeks, now resting around $88 — after a long stretch at $105 to $110 a barrel.
The price drop is the result of economic slowdowns in Europe and China, combined with the United States becoming one of the world’s biggest oil producers — thanks to new technologies enabling the extraction of large amounts of “tight oil” from shale — combined with America starting to make exceptions and allowing some of its newfound oil products to be exported, combined with Saudi Arabia refusing to cut back its production to keep prices higher, but choosing instead to maintain its market share against other OPEC producers. The net result has been to make life difficult for Russia and Iran, at a time when Saudi Arabia and America are confronting both of them in a proxy war in Syria. This is business, but it also has the feel of war by other means: oil.
The Russians have noticed. How could they not? They’ve seen this play before. The Russian newspaper Pravda published an article on April 3 with the headline, “Obama Wants Saudi Arabia to Destroy Russian Economy.” It said: “There is a precedent [for] such joint action that caused the collapse of the U.S.S.R. In 1985, the Kingdom dramatically increased oil production from 2 million to 10 million barrels per day, dropping the price from $32 to $10 per barrel. [The] U.S.S.R. began selling some batches at an even lower price, about $6 per barrel. Saudi Arabia [did not lose] anything, because when prices fell by 3.5 times [Saudi] production increased fivefold. The planned economy of the Soviet Union was not able to cope with falling export revenues, and this was one of the reasons for the collapse of the U.S.S.R.”
It's interesting about that proposed little fusion reactor from Lockheed Martin too.
Why would they announce something like that now? Why not when they have an actual working prototype in a submarine or something? Or why is it not even being kept entirely secret?
Since Lockheed Martin will be in US Gov's back pocket given the money the US throws at them, it does make you wonder if this is just another lever in a war on oil price manipulation too.
Great for petrol prices and heating oil for me... but where might it lead. That is the worrying thing.
Why would they announce something like that now? Why not when they have an actual working prototype in a submarine or something? Or why is it not even being kept entirely secret?
Since Lockheed Martin will be in US Gov's back pocket given the money the US throws at them, it does make you wonder if this is just another lever in a war on oil price manipulation too.
Great for petrol prices and heating oil for me... but where might it lead. That is the worrying thing.
essayer said:
skyrover said:
The Russian's use big gas turbines strapped to trucks to clear snowy runways
That engine looks very Rolls-Royce ish .. is it one of the ones that they designed when we 'gave' them the Nene designs?Nene:
Klimov VK-1:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klimov_VK-1
Certainly looks related, but I don't know how similar different jet engines looks. Not that similar normally I suspect.
Sweden could use force in sub hunt http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29721461
Esseesse said:
essayer said:
skyrover said:
The Russian's use big gas turbines strapped to trucks to clear snowy runways
That engine looks very Rolls-Royce ish .. is it one of the ones that they designed when we 'gave' them the Nene designs?Nene:
Klimov VK-1:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klimov_VK-1
Certainly looks related, but I don't know how similar different jet engines looks. Not that similar normally I suspect.
It was only the optimum configuration for an engine for a very brief time.
The design process for the Klimov included a tour through an RR factory with rubber soled shoes to pick the shavings up.
Talksteer said:
The Klimov is a direct copy of the Nene there is no other engine with that precise configuration of double sided compressor except for the Derwent 5 which is a scale of a Nene.
It was only the optimum configuration for an engine for a very brief time.
The design process for the Klimov included a tour through an RR factory with rubber soled shoes to pick the shavings up.
My boldIt was only the optimum configuration for an engine for a very brief time.
The design process for the Klimov included a tour through an RR factory with rubber soled shoes to pick the shavings up.
I've read this before on here, I find it very difficult to believe such a primitive method of collecting metallurgical information would be used/
Far easier to bung an envelope full of cash to someone in the design office?
furrywoolyhatuk said:
Sweden could use force in sub hunt http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29721461
oh I thought they were going to hunt it with harpoon...
AreOut said:
furrywoolyhatuk said:
Sweden could use force in sub hunt http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29721461
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