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General cricket thread

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ChasW

2,135 posts

201 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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RichB said:
DeuxCentCinq said:
I know it sounds grim, but I'd really like to see a video of it. Just how bad can two people running into each other actually be?
I guess if you imagine how much damage you could do if you sprinted headlong into a something solid and then doubled that for the closing speed of them both then you'd have the answer.

p.s. the chap with multiple breaks to his jaw also needs dental reconstructive surgery.
I played in match where this happened and it's a sickening sight. I would not wish to see it on video. It's odd because other fielders and the umpires can see that the two are going for the same catch but it's not evident that they are so unaware of each other's position, and hence the danger, until it's too late to shout a warning. In this instance one of the guys was quite shaken up and had to leave the field. The other was OK.

GloverMart

11,773 posts

214 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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ChasW said:
I played in match where this happened and it's a sickening sight. I would not wish to see it on video. It's odd because other fielders and the umpires can see that the two are going for the same catch but it's not evident that they are so unaware of each other's position, and hence the danger, until it's too late to shout a warning. In this instance one of the guys was quite shaken up and had to leave the field. The other was OK.
Strange, isn't it? Every cricketer is told to keep his eye on the ball when going for a catch and this is what has cost them dearly on this occasion.

Both left hospital now so hopefully back playing cricket soon. Though Henriques will be lucky to play again for a couple of months, I think.

dav123a

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1,220 posts

158 months

Sunday 28th June 2015
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ICC have revised playing conditions for ODIS. They gave removed batting powerplays , removed the need for a player in a catching position and are looking at the seam to see if it can be adjusted to help the bowlers.
DRS is still series by series though because of India. Not sure what the issue is. They say it's down to accuracy of DRS. Doesn't add up to me probably comes down to money somewhere along the line.

ManFromDelmonte

2,742 posts

179 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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The ODI changes are a step in the right direction but hopefully are just a first step in changing the game from a complete farce back towards something resembling cricket.

I still don't get the free-hit rule. How is a penalty run, an extra ball and the removal of your chance of a wicket from both that ball AND the following one fair punishment for such a minor infringement e.g. overstepping a line?

Should bowlers be allowed a free ball at the stumps when a batsman plays and misses? No?

AW111

9,455 posts

132 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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ManFromDelmonte said:
The ODI changes are a step in the right direction but hopefully are just a first step in changing the game from a complete farce back towards something resembling cricket.

I still don't get the free-hit rule. How is a penalty run, an extra ball and the removal of your chance of a wicket from both that ball AND the following one fair punishment for such a minor infringement e.g. overstepping a line?

Should bowlers be allowed a free ball at the stumps when a batsman plays and misses? No?
Free hits must be played one-handed?


ManFromDelmonte

2,742 posts

179 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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AW111 said:
Free hits must be played one-handed?
Now that I like.

dav123a

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1,220 posts

158 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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Aus and NZ have agreed to play a day night test in December. I know there have been alot of trials with the pink ball still be interested to see how it goes.

1st v 2nd in the championship , Bairstow and Bresnan broke quite a few records today. Highest 7th wicket in county championship history. Great to see Bairstow playing so well good for England should he need to play v Australia.

TheExcession

11,669 posts

249 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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Yorkshire playing Lancashire T20, War of the Roses at Old Trafford hehe

Browne for Lancashire just hit 27 off an over, 666441 - outch.

Run Rate is currently 11.52 - oooh ooh just out - c Maxwell b Finch 15th over.

Massive chase for Yorkshire now frown



dav123a

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1,220 posts

158 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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Had a decent go at that massive target. Not really Yccc's format TBH , we haven't really clicked at 20\20 bar one season. We usually get knocked out in the group stages. We brought in 2 20\20 specialists this season , not made much difference. Finch has ended up in the second XI and Maxwell has been very poor bar one game. We would be better off playing academy players.

TheExcession

11,669 posts

249 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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dav123a said:
Had a decent go at that massive target. Not really Yccc's format TBH , we haven't really clicked at 20\20 bar one season. We usually get knocked out in the group stages. We brought in 2 20\20 specialists this season , not made much difference. Finch has ended up in the second XI and Maxwell has been very poor bar one game. We would be better off playing academy players.
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Think we might see Finch batting for England in a couple of years.

Perry getting man of the match is OK with me, Finch a close second. Browne was just delightful to watch.

Really hope England don't bowl at the 'blue line' for the Ashes.

Just heard that McCullem got the hightest score ever in a 20/20!

Going to be a very interesting summer,

dav123a

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1,220 posts

158 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Pakistan score 382\3 to win v SL. Pretty good chase that not many teams have scored 350+ 4th innings

GloverMart

11,773 posts

214 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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I see that Sky are trying to force the issue again re franchised T20 teams again.

They have offered £40 million to set up an eight team city-based franchise but no word from the ECB as to whether this would run alongside the current T20 or instead of. Part of me would like to see it, but the larger part of me thinks it would be a pre-cursor to robbing the counties of their T20 income.

As a big Somerset fan, I'd be against it because we are the most westerly county playing in the CC and no doubt, the franchise would be based in Bristol so we'd share with Gloucestershire and a couple others. FWIW, I think there's a lot wrong with English cricket but that T20 isn't part of that. It's extremely successful.

dav123a

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1,220 posts

158 months

Sunday 26th July 2015
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Mmm done correctly it good be a boost for the game. A block of games in a 4 week period could be the chance to get the best 20\20 players to come for the whole tournament. I see the ECB are thinking about keeping the existing county 20\20 tournament which would be madness. It would mean a reduction in the number of county games not a good idea , what we have now is about right.

ManFromDelmonte

2,742 posts

179 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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Why not spend the £40M on trying to promote proper cricket instead of the utter pile of filth that is T20?

I think it works as a bit of Friday night entertainment to get some stadium's full but can we stop pretending that it is cricket?

In the same way that 6-a-side football is good for a kickabout after work and helps local sports centres and schools rent out the odd astroturf pitch, it should not be (and isn't) the focus of the FA.

Leithen

10,798 posts

266 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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ManFromDelmonte said:
Why not spend the £40M on trying to promote proper cricket instead of the utter pile of filth that is T20?

I think it works as a bit of Friday night entertainment to get some stadium's full but can we stop pretending that it is cricket?

In the same way that 6-a-side football is good for a kickabout after work and helps local sports centres and schools rent out the odd astroturf pitch, it should not be (and isn't) the focus of the FA.
Given the success of the IPL and the Big Bash, it's inevitable that T20 will be the format of choice for this kind of thing.

I don't mind so much, if it concentrates T20 into a shorter timeframe, designed around holidays etc that allow grounds to be filled and revenue earned. Then the rest of the season can be dedicated to the more traditional formats.

dav123a

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1,220 posts

158 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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ManFromDelmonte said:
Why not spend the £40M on trying to promote proper cricket instead of the utter pile of filth that is T20?

I think it works as a bit of Friday night entertainment to get some stadium's full but can we stop pretending that it is cricket?

In the same way that 6-a-side football is good for a kickabout after work and helps local sports centres and schools rent out the odd astroturf pitch, it should not be (and isn't) the focus of the FA.
Not a fan then ! I hope that some kids will move onto the longer form of the game having started out watching 20\20 on an evening. Without 20\20 you take away a large income stream for the counties and the ECB.

ManFromDelmonte

2,742 posts

179 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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dav123a said:
Not a fan then ! I hope that some kids will move onto the longer form of the game having started out watching 20\20 on an evening. Without 20\20 you take away a large income stream for the counties and the ECB.
You could say that. I went to the Oval a couple of Fridays ago and I had a great time with mates and a load of pints but the cricket just isn't for me. If it gets kids playing then that has to be a good thing, I just hate the apparent obsession with the world to concentrate all promotion and funding on the shortest and least cricket-like form of the game. I don't want it to disappear, I just want it to know it's place in the hierarchy (at the bottom).

I do appreciate I am not a typical cricket fan though. I played a good standard of cricket for 20 odd years as a fast bowler and watching a format so in favour of the batsman has all the appeal of a st sandwich. I would take an over of dot ball and play and miss away swingers followed up by the inswinger smashing into off stump over watching Chris Gayle hitting all 6 balls out of the stadium on his way to a 30 ball century any day.

I think T20 would be massively improved by use of a ball that actually swings. I find coloured kit fairly offensive too.

GloverMart

11,773 posts

214 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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My kids love their cricket (they're 14 now) but that came from being introduced to it via the medium that is T20.

I doubt very much whether I could have persuaded them to spend six or seven hours at a county match or the same length of time at a 50-over game but as an introduction, the 20-over format is perfect. The game is over inside three hours or so, it was £3 to take them to the game, another fiver or so to get from Bristol to Taunton on the train and not many games I've seen have been crap.

As a result though, they'll watch one day stuff and even Tests on the telly but it's still a step too far at the moment for them to watch it "live". T20 has its place and it's just about where it is now, no further inroads into the proper game are necessary.

Leithen

10,798 posts

266 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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ManFromDelmonte said:
I do appreciate I am not a typical cricket fan though. I played a good standard of cricket for 20 odd years as a fast bowler and watching a format so in favour of the batsman has all the appeal of a st sandwich. I would take an over of dot ball and play and miss away swingers followed up by the inswinger smashing into off stump over watching Chris Gayle hitting all 6 balls out of the stadium on his way to a 30 ball century any day.

I think T20 would be massively improved by use of a ball that actually swings. I find coloured kit fairly offensive too.
So how about this? Given that there has been big development of the bat over the last 30 years, how about doing the same with the ball? At the moment there's no incentive whatsoever for the ball manufacturers. But what if each bowler was allowed to choose their own ball? The Umpires would have to carry three/four each (I'm sure someone could come up with a clever carrier), the balls would still have to meet regs, but given some experimentation with seam and leather, different and greater variation of flight, bounce and spin ought to be possible. A bowler would not be able to change their ball during a T20 match and could only switch to the same make and model if damage allowed.

If ball manufacturers were given incentive to compete within the sport, everyone gains - except of course the batsmen, but they've been doing fine for the last few years and could do with being pegged back a bit.

Black can man

31,816 posts

167 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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Am i the only person that thinks the only way we ( England ) can win this series is to produce real slow turners & play Rashid, Root & Ali ?

Why the fk are we so fking charitable /