Cooling Kits

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sipow

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14,698 posts

267 months

Wednesday 17th July 2002
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that Leven T do, has anyone got them on there Tiv and what do they actually comprise of as theres nothing on there site,thought i'd ask here before contacting LT.
Whats a waterwetter

Simon

philshort

8,293 posts

277 months

Wednesday 17th July 2002
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Water wetter is a substance added to water to increase its thermal efficiency. Works best with plain water, its effectiveness is reduced by adding antifreeze. It will reduce coolant temperature by several degrees. Manufactured by RedLine, stocked by quite a few places now, but Demon Tweeks have been supplying it for a long time.

simpo one

85,422 posts

265 months

Wednesday 17th July 2002
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Wouldn't it simply lower surface tension, if it does what it says on the tin? Or does it change the specific latent heat of thingy?

Guillotine

5,516 posts

264 months

Thursday 18th July 2002
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yup, it breaks water tension, allowing the water to reach evey corner of your engine / radiator to transfer heat. think of a bubble of water on ya highly polished bonnet. forms a nice bubble. water wetter breaks tension allowing water to cover a greater area.
it does have lubricants, cleaners etc in it to further improve the efficiency of your system, but thats essentially how it works, and it does work. i've used it for years!
anti-freeze does the opposite. well meaning dealers often chuck the whole bottle in your system to "make sure". this extra anti-freeze does little to protect your engine (particularly if it goes away for the winter!) but does have a major effect on the cooling of your car! get yourself a decent guage £5-10 and adjust your anti-freeze for the required temperature range. then add water wetter. this will seriously reduce the running temp of your car.
my griff 500 dropped from 85-90 degrees fans in / out all the time to 75 - 80 degrees fans cutting on only in traffic, and thats with an A/C radiator in front of the cooling radiator!
note - as steve heath says, dont go mad and over cool as this fools the ecu into running in choke mode which causes other running probs. but i ran mine back from nice with no number plate on, no antifreeze AND water wetter in, at 150mph for much of the journey and it sat a 75 degrees all the way! probably held there by the thermostat - but it ran beautifully!!!:smile:
in fact i had to put the heater on around riems cause i was getting blo*dy cold!! that was a first!!!!

>> Edited by Guillotine on Thursday 18th July 21:20

david beer

3,982 posts

267 months

Friday 19th July 2002
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If your water thermostat is working as intended, it is not possible to over cool. As it simply would stay shut. Otherwise we could not go out in winter.

budd

407 posts

268 months

Friday 19th July 2002
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I believe millersoils Rad Hib Extra Cool is the same type of stuff as redlines water wetter only alot cheaper £12 for 1ltr rather than £15 for 355ml, enough to do the system three times plus top ups.

bogbeast

1,137 posts

263 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2002
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I know that Demon Tweeks also do an electric replacement water pump called the EWP (Australian I think).

Seems that you remove the thermostat and bypass/remove the original water pump impeller & leave it to the electric pump to manage the temperature of the engine. Does this using an electronic controller and varying the water flow against temp.

According to some things I read:

www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2000/08/electricwaterpump/index.shtml

Seems to work well. Originally I was investigating it for my Ultima , but considering the temperatures that my Griff 500 achieves (or the massive variance of), I maybe looking at it for to help there too.

GreenV8S

30,199 posts

284 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2002
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When I looked at these, they had nothing like the flow capacity required to cool a V8.

Also, did you serpentine V8 TVR owners realize that your engine cooling system has NO BYPASS fitted as standard? Tell that to an experienced engine builder and he will laugh at you, don't be daft nobody would be so stupid. And when your aftermarket V8 supplier realizes how you've installed his engine you can say goodbye to your warranty. Just a thought!


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I know that Demon Tweeks also do an electric replacement water pump called the EWP (Australian I think).

Seems that you remove the thermostat and bypass/remove the original water pump impeller & leave it to the electric pump to manage the temperature of the engine. Does this using an electronic controller and varying the water flow against temp.

According to some things I read:

www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2000/08/electricwaterpump/index.shtml

Seems to work well. Originally I was investigating it for my Ultima , but considering the temperatures that my Griff 500 achieves (or the massive variance of), I maybe looking at it for to help there too.