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That is a great photo Richard, and actually returns the thread to it's original theme.
However now I am wondering;
a. If someone owned an M in, say, 1974 with lots of WB Tuscan bits on it would they have had it altered back at the factory to look like a "proper" M series with the more up to date styling.
b. How easy would it be to modify an early M to look like a WB Tuscan? Looking at how some M have been modded over the years and at the standard of stuff like the Sagaris convertibles that keep appearing, presumably altering the bonnet, rear panel and side window surrounds wouldn't be too tricky for a good fibreglass man. Keeping it on an M chassis, using a Vixen interior and installing a V8 would create a good usable beast. Surprised no one has tried it, or have they...
Hmm... maybe this needs it's own thread.
Oliver.
However now I am wondering;
a. If someone owned an M in, say, 1974 with lots of WB Tuscan bits on it would they have had it altered back at the factory to look like a "proper" M series with the more up to date styling.
b. How easy would it be to modify an early M to look like a WB Tuscan? Looking at how some M have been modded over the years and at the standard of stuff like the Sagaris convertibles that keep appearing, presumably altering the bonnet, rear panel and side window surrounds wouldn't be too tricky for a good fibreglass man. Keeping it on an M chassis, using a Vixen interior and installing a V8 would create a good usable beast. Surprised no one has tried it, or have they...
Hmm... maybe this needs it's own thread.
Oliver.
Oliver, IMHO the WB cars are defined by the 'Lotus' style side window frames and behind the door frame rear vents, bonnets with Mk1 escort front lamps. I have never seen one in the flesh! BUT creating one forward OR backwards is always possible, AND recently I saw a picture of a car (I kept quiet about it ,as I too interested in it myself ,rather than expand the interest for the forum followers!).
Back to this thread...In the back ground of the crash test car is the WB car too (I believe).
Adrian@
Super picture Richard...the street IS FULL of ONE interesting car!!!
Back to this thread...In the back ground of the crash test car is the WB car too (I believe).
Adrian@
Super picture Richard...the street IS FULL of ONE interesting car!!!
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prideaux said:
Stunning Picture shame Trevor is not around to ask just look at that empty street hard to get a picture like that today
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Gorgeous car!!! Apart from the street being empty, just look at the surface. It's like a billiard table....A
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TVRHTV said:
This photo is of my TVR 1800 I owned in the late 1960s, is it still around?
Tony it's still insured, still MOT'ed still loved and gets out for ar few classic meets. Blue now.
That’s good to know, not long to her 50th Birthday. I was the 2nd owner and she was Yellow then.
I knew she changed to Blue because she was on e-bay about 2006 and I e-mailed the vendor but he did not reply.
In 1969 I went to Mike Bigland Sports Cars to buy 4 shock absorbers, Mike went outside to look at her,
said how well I looked after her and offered me a job. I loved every mile I drove in her.
TVR,s up to 1971 are my second love after Rochdale Olympics.
Tony Stanton, Compiler of the Rochdale Olympic History Archives.
luckycarter said:
Another view of the lovely street, Oh and the car! 
I am currently in correspondence with the Gentleman who purchased the above car from TVR in 1956. He has lived in Canada since 1963. When I have more details I will be in touch.
This is also an interesting photo from Peter Filby,s book “TVR-Success Against the Odds” and it shows the Hardtop RGS body on
the “works” TVR chassis and the Open RGS body on a TVR chassis. I have made these 3 observations.
a) Of the 3 TVR chassis I have a record of they are fitted with A40 Sport road wheels.
b) The registration number of the Open RGS/TVR is EFV 748, the same number as TVR number 1
and the same number as the Rochdale Type-C bodied TVR.
c) The writing states that the EFV 748 is the seventeenth TVR completed. Does this mean that?
Somewhere in TVR circles someone has a list of the 20, 2nd series chassis and what bodyshells, engines and specifications they were built to?
I would like to know how many had Rochdale bodies fitted as Peter Filby,s book seems to suggest there could be a few?
Anyone help please?
Regards Tony Stanton, Compiler of the Rochdale Olympic History Archives
Absolutely cracking stuff. I love this sort of thing!
So 1949, TVR number one was built, and written off soon after. Parts of the car were used to make TVR No 2, but this car carried a new registration. By 1956 (or maybe 1959) the number plate was on a Rochdale bodied car, (TVR chassis), but at some point the registration was also on an RGS bodied car.
Was the Rochdale or the RGS written off and the registration transferred? Or maybe one was re bodied into the other.
Very intriguing. I hope you manage to dig out some clues. We are all on tenter hooks!
So 1949, TVR number one was built, and written off soon after. Parts of the car were used to make TVR No 2, but this car carried a new registration. By 1956 (or maybe 1959) the number plate was on a Rochdale bodied car, (TVR chassis), but at some point the registration was also on an RGS bodied car.
Was the Rochdale or the RGS written off and the registration transferred? Or maybe one was re bodied into the other.
Very intriguing. I hope you manage to dig out some clues. We are all on tenter hooks!
Looks like the number plate, tax disc was transferred to several cars (not unusual for car manufacturers at that time!)
no MOT, no Swansea database and no ANPR cameras then in the 1950s and 1960s.
Then when sold registered with new number and logbook.
What I need is a date for the RGS photo?
Tony
no MOT, no Swansea database and no ANPR cameras then in the 1950s and 1960s.
Then when sold registered with new number and logbook.
What I need is a date for the RGS photo?
Tony
Tony,
Hope you get some good info from Canada.
I always wondered what the Chassis numbers of the earlier cars might be. In TVR's letter to Ray saidels original enquiry for a chassis, they refered to the chassis as the MK vii c with an 1100cc Climax, and Granturas MK1/2/2a are numbered 7/#/###, the MK3 is 8/### etc so i wonder if the earlier cars were 6/### or 5/### etc, i wonder if there is anybody left alive who would know
Hope you get some good info from Canada.
I always wondered what the Chassis numbers of the earlier cars might be. In TVR's letter to Ray saidels original enquiry for a chassis, they refered to the chassis as the MK vii c with an 1100cc Climax, and Granturas MK1/2/2a are numbered 7/#/###, the MK3 is 8/### etc so i wonder if the earlier cars were 6/### or 5/### etc, i wonder if there is anybody left alive who would know
You mean this one Rich.
Here's what I know. I bought this photo on ebay just listed as TVR Lea-Francis at Sprint, 1964, driver A. Jelly. It was cheap and I was intrigued. The bonnet certainly appears to be modified Grantura, but the rest of the body looks like Microplas. The registration is a Blackpool one, so I reckoned there could well be a TVR connection. However no one knows anything about it, the TVRCC records have nothing against that registration. But, a couple of years ago I was idley flicking through some old motor sport programmes at my parents and found one from Dyrham Park on 25th July 1964 where one A.B. Jelly competed in a TVR with a 2496cc engine. Another Grantura driver that day was G.P.M. Taylor in a Grantura with a 1494cc engine (B series I assume), who later competed in a "Leafson TVR GT" of 2496cc capacity, I am assuming this is the same car. Needless to say the old man remembers nothing of it - bloody hopeless, eh!
So I have a small lead, and maybe one day I will investigate it seriously. However, my Dad did write down the times, and it was over 6 seconds behind E.W Preston's Grantura II with a 1588cc engine, so it wasn't a very successful conversion. It was also 9 seconds behind R. Fry in a 1964 Ferrari GTO - bet that was interesting to see.
Oliver.
I have found a Cornwall Motor club Hill climb results pamphlet from 1964 with the same guy. This time the car is a TVR 2500
Full program Here
http://www.nhca.co.uk/Archives/1964/9%20Trengwaint...
The other TVR driver you mentioned is also listed
Our man is cited again here
Interestingly, GMP Taylor is also listed as driving a Bristol TVR. Could this be the same as the Bristol Engined Grantura that was discussed a while ago on here?
Full program Here
http://www.nhca.co.uk/Archives/1964/9%20Trengwaint...
The other TVR driver you mentioned is also listed
Our man is cited again here
Interestingly, GMP Taylor is also listed as driving a Bristol TVR. Could this be the same as the Bristol Engined Grantura that was discussed a while ago on here?
Edited by Astacus on Sunday 3rd August 21:05
Ooh thanks, now I really will have to do some delving. GPM Taylor seems to be listed on both pages, must have been quite a dedicated/masochistic TVR owner. The guy I bought the photo from reckoned it was somewhere in the West Country, so Cornwall and Dyrham would both fit.
Cheers,
Oliver.
Cheers,
Oliver.
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