help clutch bleeding

[spatz]

again I am having big troubles with the clutch bleeding, I have the original ultima master cylinder
and the 997/996 turbo take cylinder. I am using hydraulic oil, since this is what is used in the Turbo.
What is the best method ?

many thanks

[F.C.]

This:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gunson-G4062-Eezibleed-Kit...

It basically pressurizes the whole system and removes trapped air in a matter of a minute or so pumping the pedal.

[Steve_D]

Being as we run the 'box differently to Porsche it may be that the bleed nipple is not truly at the top of the system.
If so then unbolt it and hold it in the correct position whilst bleeding.

Agreed an Easybleed is a good tool but make sure you only run it at about 10-15psi. It will take higher but the result is that it compresses the air bubbles making them smaller and more difficult to move through the system.

Steve

[spatz]

thanks I have ordered it

will report back and yes I can remove the take cylinder and bring the bleed nipple at the top of the system.

[pilbeam_mp62]

You could also try jacking up the rear of the car so that the slave cylinder is the highest point of the system. That may help.

Edited - sorry, I think Steve's idea covers it...didn't read it carefully enough

Edited by pilbeam_mp62 on Wednesday 2nd April 06:48

[Mr Pid]

Need to remove the slave cylinder and bleed it with the bleed nipple on the top....... Then refit. This was the only way I could do it.

[spatz]

Mr Pid said:

Need to remove the slave cylinder and bleed it with the bleed nipple on the top....... Then refit. This was the only way I could do it.

exactly what I plan to do

thanks

[Storer]

Does the clutch slave cylinder plunger come all the way out if you do this without fitting some sort of 'stop' to prevent it???

Paul

[SchimmS]

Storer said:

Does the clutch slave cylinder plunger come all the way out if you do this without fitting some sort of 'stop' to prevent it???

Paul

Yes it will and it`ll be a huge mess. That`s why you need to open the bleed nipple first ;-)

[Mr Pid]

...mine didnt... I am pretty sure it has a circlip to hold the piston in.

[spatz]

ok here my report:

the original turbo take cylinder has a neat feature so you can take the rubber off and remove the push rod and then fix the cylinder
with a clamp. This way you can test your pedal before you mount the take cylinder in the gear box. I have the optional adapter and GT take cylinder from AB
but wanted to try if the original Porsche cylinder could be used as well.
I am using hydraulic oil, since this is what is used in the TURBO not brake fluid.
I had positioned the take cylinder bleeding nipple at the hightes point possible.
Put the easy bleed on the master cylinder and connected to the tire. Opened the bleed nipple and watching the air bubbles and
hydraulic oil coming out. Refilling tire repeated the process twice then - TEST passed with the clamp on. Now mounting the cylinder
with the push rod, make sure you hit the fork, first time I managed to position the push rod in a way it touched the gear box housing
somewhere, with no clutch function at all. The turbo clutch is somehow heavy and makes it easy to stall the engine, a tribute to the higher clamp
forces of the turbo pressure plate.

The eezi bleed can only be highly recommended, STIG should make this a sticky, since the clutch bleeding can be done in a few minutes
by one man with this cheap tool !!

[UltimaCH]

That's why most of us have one, not only for use with Ults but other vehicles too.

I use one from these people. It works perfectly:
http://www.motiveproducts.com/

Edited to add link

Edited by UltimaCH on Monday 7th April 11:23

[F.C.]

UltimaCH said:

That's why most of us have one, not only for use with Ults but other vehicles too.

I use one from these people. It works perfectly:
http://www.motiveproducts.com/

Edited to add link

Edited by UltimaCH on Monday 7th April 11:23

I like that self contained pump idea.
I've used my eezi bleed for years now, no problems but this self contained one could make things a little easier to access rather than using an old tyre to pressure the eezi bleed.
I just might fork out and retire my eezi bleed, it's well overdue.

[Storer]

Which model Of the Motive Products bleeder is suitable for the Ultima? The European?


Paul

[UltimaCH]

Yes I guess so. It works fine with my German cars

[F.C.]

Storer said:

Which model Of the Motive Products bleeder is suitable for the Ultima? The European?


Paul

Typically all you need is a spare cap of the type used on your car, this is drilled to take the end of the "bleeder" hose then its a small gasket and a nut.
Cheapest bleeder with an adapted cap is probably the most cost efficient.

[spatz]

for the 25 euro the eezy bleed is costing not worth running around and searching for all the bits.