996 C4S Tyres - What is the latest preference
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Would welcome feedback from recent tyre purchasers for standard 996 C4S's (cab) as I need to replace all four prior to the Le Mans trip.
The car only does 6k a year and all on road regardless of the weather in a moderate to spirited manner. No track use though.
Having read older threads, there seems to be a real mixed bag of opinions. Not wanting to put cheap rubber on, but with the choice available any guidance would be appreciated.
Also, any positive experiences with suppliers / fitters in West Yorkshire?
Many thanks in advance.
The car only does 6k a year and all on road regardless of the weather in a moderate to spirited manner. No track use though.
Having read older threads, there seems to be a real mixed bag of opinions. Not wanting to put cheap rubber on, but with the choice available any guidance would be appreciated.
Also, any positive experiences with suppliers / fitters in West Yorkshire?
Many thanks in advance.
jkh112 said:
Only feedback from 996 C4S cab tyre purchasers? That is quite specific. 
Hi jkh112. I put the model down with it being 4wd and not knowing how much of a diference in terms of wear, grip level and size etc to C2's. Having had fleet managers put shoes onto work cars I did not pay much attention. However, seeing as this is my pride and joy and money - learning to be done.Replaced 4 tyres on my 996 C4 cab last Friday. Our local independent tyre dealer who do a fair bit of motorsport themselves strongly recommended Michelin PS2s over the Contis I had before. First impressions are that they are quieter on our cr*p roads round here, which is a definite bonus. A topical bit of good news for all PHers needing tyres is that Michelin are doing that offer again where they give you a fuel card - for 4 18" tyres it gives you £70 of free fuel, which is a fair discount. Offer runs until end this month I think.
bigfoot57 said:
Replaced 4 tyres on my 996 C4 cab last Friday. Our local independent tyre dealer who do a fair bit of motorsport themselves strongly recommended Michelin PS2s over the Contis I had before. First impressions are that they are quieter on our cr*p roads round here, which is a definite bonus. A topical bit of good news for all PHers needing tyres is that Michelin are doing that offer again where they give you a fuel card - for 4 18" tyres it gives you £70 of free fuel, which is a fair discount. Offer runs until end this month I think.
Do mind sharing how much all four tyres came in at? And breakdown would be ideal??? I had issues previosuly sourcing Michelin PS2 N rated jobbies so always seems hard ot haggle for any sort of 'deal'?Slaav said:
Do mind sharing how much all four tyres came in at? And breakdown would be ideal??? I had issues previosuly sourcing Michelin PS2 N rated jobbies so always seems hard ot haggle for any sort of 'deal'?
Michelin PS2 N3 - Fronts 225/40R18 £140 each, Backs 285/30R18 £225 each - all in fitted for £730. Plus £70 hopefully to come back from the Michelin offer I mentioned. Great service from my local independent tyre dealer.My local ATS quoted me £782 plus the £70 fuel offer. Strange thing was they said PS2 were now discontinued for the fronts but could offer PS3, whilst still quoting PS2 for the rears. Got a quote from them as they were listed on the Michelin web site as an approved partner for the fuel offer.
BigFoot57 - You mention 285's on the rear. My car also has 285/30/18 fitted however the owners manual states 295's required. Is there a reason for the variance? thanks
BigFoot57 - You mention 285's on the rear. My car also has 285/30/18 fitted however the owners manual states 295's required. Is there a reason for the variance? thanks
Those are good prices. I'm also currently after at least rears for my 996C4S
I normally use event tyres, they are coming in at 253.98/tyre for MPS2s.
I had Continental before and have been happy with my current MPS2s for wear and grip wet/dry and road/track so will be going for the same. I'm slightly concerned re the no PS2s for fronts. I may replace them as well now to ensure all 4 corners will stay the same and if PS3s are not as good...
As an aside and sorry to go slighlty OT; I had previously read of people going for 235 on the fronts vs. standard 225 on C4S to help with understeer...don't know if anybody has any views or experience on that?
I normally use event tyres, they are coming in at 253.98/tyre for MPS2s.
I had Continental before and have been happy with my current MPS2s for wear and grip wet/dry and road/track so will be going for the same. I'm slightly concerned re the no PS2s for fronts. I may replace them as well now to ensure all 4 corners will stay the same and if PS3s are not as good...
As an aside and sorry to go slighlty OT; I had previously read of people going for 235 on the fronts vs. standard 225 on C4S to help with understeer...don't know if anybody has any views or experience on that?
Edited by f1_dragon on Wednesday 2nd April 14:02
The issue with all older cars/tyre sizes and N-rating is availability, now and for the next time.
On top of this your 4wd has to keep the rolling circumference within limits so that there is minimum strain on the gearbox/diffs etc.
With most other 4wd, you can rotate the tyres as the sizes are the same front-to-rear. Also with a 911, the rears wear much faster than the fronts.
I don't want problems OC; I want solutions.
With 225/40 on the front, the circumference when new is 1921.75mm. Remember that as all tyres wear by up to 6mm radius or 12mm diameter, this circumference will change over time.
The rears wear faster.
285/30 start off at only 1894.6mm.
295/30 start off at 1912.7mm - this is clearly 'better' and is why it is in the handbook.
Camskill are showing 295/30 PS2 N4 at 232 GBP and N3 at 215 GBP.
Also showing in stock 225/40 N3 at 119.50
(I'll do the maths for you
)
295/30 x2 is 430
225/40 x2 is 240
total is 681.76 including P&P
Get you local trusted tyre monkey to fit.
Do you still get 70 in petrol from Michelin?
On top of this your 4wd has to keep the rolling circumference within limits so that there is minimum strain on the gearbox/diffs etc.
With most other 4wd, you can rotate the tyres as the sizes are the same front-to-rear. Also with a 911, the rears wear much faster than the fronts.
I don't want problems OC; I want solutions.
86 targa said:
BigFoot57 - You mention 285's on the rear. My car also has 285/30/18 fitted however the owners manual states 295's required. Is there a reason for the variance? thanks
285s are easier to source? Cheaper? With 225/40 on the front, the circumference when new is 1921.75mm. Remember that as all tyres wear by up to 6mm radius or 12mm diameter, this circumference will change over time.
The rears wear faster.
285/30 start off at only 1894.6mm.
295/30 start off at 1912.7mm - this is clearly 'better' and is why it is in the handbook.
Camskill are showing 295/30 PS2 N4 at 232 GBP and N3 at 215 GBP.
Also showing in stock 225/40 N3 at 119.50
(I'll do the maths for you
)295/30 x2 is 430
225/40 x2 is 240
total is 681.76 including P&P
Get you local trusted tyre monkey to fit.
Do you still get 70 in petrol from Michelin?
Edited by Orangecurry on Wednesday 2nd April 16:50
To be fair to anyone trying to publish a dropdown like this, there are many variables.
They key thing is never to trust a third-party or especially some madman typing stuff on the interweb - always use what is stamped on the plate that is fixed to your car, either in the door aperture or on the door itself.
They key thing is never to trust a third-party or especially some madman typing stuff on the interweb - always use what is stamped on the plate that is fixed to your car, either in the door aperture or on the door itself.
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