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Does anyone know roughly from watching the forums, what the rough count of engines on 08-09 that have blown, obviously that you know about from forums.
I was pretty shocked to read this, and with the fact I've just bought an 09. This is what bloody scared me off a porsche boxster, but never expected it with a honda, hence I never looked into this before purchase.
What mileage on average, is this happening, and is there a time scale.
I was pretty shocked to read this, and with the fact I've just bought an 09. This is what bloody scared me off a porsche boxster, but never expected it with a honda, hence I never looked into this before purchase.
What mileage on average, is this happening, and is there a time scale.
Edited by SCEL1SE on Saturday 19th April 09:47
i think if the truth be known as a percentage of AP1 engines in the 08/09 batch its relatively small , and i do not believe Honda have actualy stated whats been wrong with them .
One of the theorys has been to do with crankshaft end float , but agian not sure as my 01 car has cleary not been affected.
There has been lots of specualtion on S2ki and a huge thread dedicated to the problem . A number of engines have been replaced by Honda under warranty exactly how many i am not sure , ask the question on S2ki and you will find a whole bunch of friendly people with lots of advice and knowledge on this and other matters
One of the theorys has been to do with crankshaft end float , but agian not sure as my 01 car has cleary not been affected.
There has been lots of specualtion on S2ki and a huge thread dedicated to the problem . A number of engines have been replaced by Honda under warranty exactly how many i am not sure , ask the question on S2ki and you will find a whole bunch of friendly people with lots of advice and knowledge on this and other matters
SCEL1SE said:
Does anyone know roughly from watching the forums, what the rough count of engines on 08-09 that have blown, obviously that you know about from forums.
I was pretty shocked to read this, and with the fact I've just bought an 09. This is what bloody scared me off a porsche boxster, but never expected it with a honda, hence I never looked into this before purchase.
What mileage on average, is this happening, and is there a time scale.
Pre-08-09' engines are sound by the seem of it.I was pretty shocked to read this, and with the fact I've just bought an 09. This is what bloody scared me off a porsche boxster, but never expected it with a honda, hence I never looked into this before purchase.
What mileage on average, is this happening, and is there a time scale.
I know somebody who had an 09' engine replaced under OEM warranty because of "worrying noises" and now has similar noises again (obviously keeps an extended warranty on it). Failure mileage was less than 20k from new on a regularly serviced and well looked after car (EG oil checked at every fuel fill - never over-revved or cornered particularly hard). The issue isn't mileage related AFAIK.
There was a thread on S2Ki about '09 UK engine failures at one time in the past - wouldn't have needed that if there wasn't an issue (sorry don't have a link - search on S2Ki isn't great and I suspect the thread might have been taken down anyway).
Cheers Guys for the Info.
Sounds a bit like the Porkers with the 987 engines going pop, but only a small amount, dependent on What forum you read.
It would be good to know how many have failed in the UK alone. Being honest, It does concern me slightly, as I plan some very long drives over the coming couple of years, potentially across Europe. It don't instill you with much confidence knowing there could be a weak point in your Engine? I know you can say this about a lot of motors, but Not once did I worry about engine failure in my Supercharged Elise.
I do have warranty on It, but basically that is not the Point. Last thing you want is being off the road for extended periods, or blowing an engine Mid Europe!!
I can see a potential for sale sign on my 09 8k S2k.lol
Sounds a bit like the Porkers with the 987 engines going pop, but only a small amount, dependent on What forum you read.
It would be good to know how many have failed in the UK alone. Being honest, It does concern me slightly, as I plan some very long drives over the coming couple of years, potentially across Europe. It don't instill you with much confidence knowing there could be a weak point in your Engine? I know you can say this about a lot of motors, but Not once did I worry about engine failure in my Supercharged Elise.
I do have warranty on It, but basically that is not the Point. Last thing you want is being off the road for extended periods, or blowing an engine Mid Europe!!
I can see a potential for sale sign on my 09 8k S2k.lol
I bought a 2009 S2000 without researching it too............
My thought process was low miles, low owners, unthrashed car and Honda VTEC bullet proof build quality. Never once did I consider an engine problem......that's why I bought a Honda!!!! I research EVERYTHING before I buy as well. Just didn't think for a second any Honda would have issues............
My thought process was low miles, low owners, unthrashed car and Honda VTEC bullet proof build quality. Never once did I consider an engine problem......that's why I bought a Honda!!!! I research EVERYTHING before I buy as well. Just didn't think for a second any Honda would have issues............
The. F20c engine is about as highly tuned as you can get in standard production car , but that said there plenty that go way beyond 100k without much problem, and some if not most of these get driven like they have been stolen .
My own car sees the red line on most drives and fairly often hits the rev limiter at 9400 r pm. It's done 75 k with out hiccup.
Not even had the timing chain tensioner issue.
There are other issues do crop up occasionally but nothing major really , one of the worst things is a result of driver error , a mechanical over rev, this results in bent valve spring retainers and subsequent engine failures I think this is not a problem with later cars.
There are the odd cars that suffer Conrod failure but it's not often , I think this often as result of poor routine cheeks , low oil especially in pre 04 cars as these drink oil and it must be checked really with every fill up of petrol
Some early cars also suffered failure of no4 piston as a result of over heating , there was a recall for bigger oil jets to cool piston crowns , new plugs at same time to.w
My own car sees the red line on most drives and fairly often hits the rev limiter at 9400 r pm. It's done 75 k with out hiccup.
Not even had the timing chain tensioner issue.
There are other issues do crop up occasionally but nothing major really , one of the worst things is a result of driver error , a mechanical over rev, this results in bent valve spring retainers and subsequent engine failures I think this is not a problem with later cars.
There are the odd cars that suffer Conrod failure but it's not often , I think this often as result of poor routine cheeks , low oil especially in pre 04 cars as these drink oil and it must be checked really with every fill up of petrol
Some early cars also suffered failure of no4 piston as a result of over heating , there was a recall for bigger oil jets to cool piston crowns , new plugs at same time to.w
Sportbilly said:
I bought a 2009 S2000 without researching it too............
My thought process was low miles, low owners, unthrashed car and Honda VTEC bullet proof build quality. Never once did I consider an engine problem......that's why I bought a Honda!!!! I research EVERYTHING before I buy as well. Just didn't think for a second any Honda would have issues............
Exactly like you. Thought the exact same things, and being honest, It is not published as much, when comparing with Porkers.My thought process was low miles, low owners, unthrashed car and Honda VTEC bullet proof build quality. Never once did I consider an engine problem......that's why I bought a Honda!!!! I research EVERYTHING before I buy as well. Just didn't think for a second any Honda would have issues............
I really do now think It is only small numbers, and It will come down to Personal choice on whether someone thinks It is worth the gamble, as the Odds are small of anything going belly up.
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