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deadslow said:
That bodged up seatbelt is a bit out of place.
Re the overpowered barge debate:
I test drove a brand new S280 back in 1999 and bought an S500 with no regrets at all. I owned an XJ8 3.2 Sport and an XJR and the XJR could do everything its lesser powered sibling could do, but the reverse certainly wasn't true. Give me power in reserve every day of the week. You don't have to use it if you're not in the mood, but at least when you are, you've got the option.
I test drove a brand new S280 back in 1999 and bought an S500 with no regrets at all. I owned an XJ8 3.2 Sport and an XJR and the XJR could do everything its lesser powered sibling could do, but the reverse certainly wasn't true. Give me power in reserve every day of the week. You don't have to use it if you're not in the mood, but at least when you are, you've got the option.
0a said:
W124 500E only. Clarification. Now can we have more barges before this hole gets too big and before I buy a V8 BMW (with dodgy exterior styling and a plastic interior including an 'I drive'?)
That's quite a cheap shot. I think you'll find the wood in the E65 is very real, and that there is plenty of plastic in the W124. Can't you just accept that for some people a W124 isn't the worlds best car? Glad I didn't buy one in the end, and cat220 who's owned both also said he didn't regret going from W124 to E65. It may not suit your car desires but doesn't mean it doesn't others, no need to get all high and mighty. Edited by 0a on Thursday 24th July 23:05
E65Ross said:
0a said:
W124 500E only. Clarification. Now can we have more barges before this hole gets too big and before I buy a V8 BMW (with dodgy exterior styling and a plastic interior including an 'I drive'?)
That's quite a cheap shot. I think you'll find the wood in the E65 is very real, and that there is plenty of plastic in the W124. Can't you just accept that for some people a W124 isn't the worlds best car? Glad I didn't buy one in the end, and cat220 who's owned both also said he didn't regret going from W124 to E65. It may not suit your car desires but doesn't mean it doesn't others, no need to get all high and mighty. Edited by 0a on Thursday 24th July 23:05
Jim the Sunderer said:
deadslow said:
That bodged up seatbelt is a bit out of place.r129sl said:
E65Ross said:
0a said:
W124 500E only. Clarification. Now can we have more barges before this hole gets too big and before I buy a V8 BMW (with dodgy exterior styling and a plastic interior including an 'I drive'?)
That's quite a cheap shot. I think you'll find the wood in the E65 is very real, and that there is plenty of plastic in the W124. Can't you just accept that for some people a W124 isn't the worlds best car? Glad I didn't buy one in the end, and cat220 who's owned both also said he didn't regret going from W124 to E65. It may not suit your car desires but doesn't mean it doesn't others, no need to get all high and mighty. Edited by 0a on Thursday 24th July 23:05
Car choice is very subjective, but we should appreciate the merits of all cars (and they have them, albeit very hidden at times).
I am a prime example of what some would consider a philistine.
Older Jags do nothing for me at all (I have owned a couple too).
While I can appreciate the quality and understated look of the W124 I think they are appealing more to those who think Mercedes missed a trick with not fitting a pipe holder
However I think the E38 BMW is sublime and I am one of the minority who really likes the E65 (and would seriously contemplate as an alternative to the A8).
And yes, I think the A8 is one of the finest barges out there.
But those are just my thoughts and I completely respect others who appreciate those which I don't.
I have just spent 4 days in the company of a modern "luxury" offering from Vauxhall.
The Elite version of the Insignia with a diesel lump.
Truly awful thing in my opinion. Plastic, squeaky, questionable quality leather, climate control system that is far too intrusive and an engine that makes its presence known all the time.
Now this is interesting...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
Key facts (it's an A8 by the way)
•2003
•LPG
•Saloon
•Automatic
•90842 miles
.
I have installed LPG in July 2013 and is on warranty until July 2016.
Car comes with many unusual toys such as keyless fingerprint start, fully automatic seats, automatic folded mirrors, Diamond Cut Alloys, MP3 USB AUX, Ipod and 6 Cd changer. Air suspension (lift, lower or stiffer suspension whenever you want.)
Keyless door opening, just keep keys around you and doors will open when around the car. Cruise control, Xenons, Dual Climate Control, Rear LED lights and some more that I can't remember.
Car has been used multiple times to drive abroad, never caused any problems, coped well doing 1500 miles in one go with no stops other than filling up you won't even get tired.
When on driving on LPG than cost is comparable to a diesel car, but comfort is like in heaven.
My record is 350 miles from a fill up that costed me £35 driving on a motorway at 80mph with cruise control when I was recently abroad.
Aircon just has been refilled few days ago when I was abroad.
FOR MORE INFO CALL ME. Mileage can go slightly as I use it to drive to work. Selling it as I want to upgrade to a new shape A8, once you start driving A8 then there is nothing to replace it with
, SILVER, 3 owners, Next MOT due 11/10/2014, Tax expires 30/09/2014, Part service history, Electric windows, Air conditioning, Satellite navigation, Parking aid, MP3 player, CD player, Leather trim, Heated seats, Height adjustable driver's seat, Height adjustable passenger seat, Child seat points (Isofix system), Sports seats,
Metallic paint, 19" Alloy Wheels, Spare wheel (Full), Power steering, Steering wheel rake adjustment, Steering wheel reach adjustment, Cruise control, Traction control, Central locking, Alarm, Immobiliser, Driver's airbags, Side airbags, Passenger airbags.
£5,025
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
Key facts (it's an A8 by the way)
•2003
•LPG
•Saloon
•Automatic
•90842 miles
.
- LPG** RARE *** SAVE MONEY ON FUEL (don't get fooled you may find slightly cheaper A8 but you will save the difference in 1 month on fuel !!
I have installed LPG in July 2013 and is on warranty until July 2016.
Car comes with many unusual toys such as keyless fingerprint start, fully automatic seats, automatic folded mirrors, Diamond Cut Alloys, MP3 USB AUX, Ipod and 6 Cd changer. Air suspension (lift, lower or stiffer suspension whenever you want.)
Keyless door opening, just keep keys around you and doors will open when around the car. Cruise control, Xenons, Dual Climate Control, Rear LED lights and some more that I can't remember.
Car has been used multiple times to drive abroad, never caused any problems, coped well doing 1500 miles in one go with no stops other than filling up you won't even get tired.
When on driving on LPG than cost is comparable to a diesel car, but comfort is like in heaven.
My record is 350 miles from a fill up that costed me £35 driving on a motorway at 80mph with cruise control when I was recently abroad.
Aircon just has been refilled few days ago when I was abroad.
FOR MORE INFO CALL ME. Mileage can go slightly as I use it to drive to work. Selling it as I want to upgrade to a new shape A8, once you start driving A8 then there is nothing to replace it with
, SILVER, 3 owners, Next MOT due 11/10/2014, Tax expires 30/09/2014, Part service history, Electric windows, Air conditioning, Satellite navigation, Parking aid, MP3 player, CD player, Leather trim, Heated seats, Height adjustable driver's seat, Height adjustable passenger seat, Child seat points (Isofix system), Sports seats, Metallic paint, 19" Alloy Wheels, Spare wheel (Full), Power steering, Steering wheel rake adjustment, Steering wheel reach adjustment, Cruise control, Traction control, Central locking, Alarm, Immobiliser, Driver's airbags, Side airbags, Passenger airbags.
£5,025
Gearbox going pop is most likely due to someone believing that you don't need to change the fluid for 80k miles rather than an inherent weakness.
And I don't mind buying a car that has had that replaced, the cambelt done and an LPG conversion.
I think the price is about on the mark if the bodywork is spot on, tyres are good (condition and quality) and everything works as it should.
And I don't mind buying a car that has had that replaced, the cambelt done and an LPG conversion.
I think the price is about on the mark if the bodywork is spot on, tyres are good (condition and quality) and everything works as it should.
Laidback66 said:
Gearbox going pop is most likely due to someone believing that you don't need to change the fluid for 80k miles rather than an inherent weakness.
I think it is poor for a gearbox to fail at 80k fluid change or no fluid change, particularly bearing in mind the issues Audi had with gearboxes in the previous model. I know it is not an Audi gearbox but it is interesting that combined with the 4wd system they are going pop in D3's as well as D2's.sly fox said:
With respect to power- i believe the phrase you are looking for is "An Elegant Sufficiency"
190bhp in a large barge doesn't match that definition
Indeed. I do find it strange though, that the W124 still garners such affection. It is inferior to the W140 S Class which goes relatively unloved. Odd that the admittedly well-made family car/middle management car would be so well regarded when the W140 and C140 were so much better. 190bhp in a large barge doesn't match that definition
Admittedly, the D2 A8 isn't the most inspiring steer but it is what you make of it. It's fast, refined and will go round corners and gobble up rough tarmac like it's going out of fashion. That is the joy of these big beasts; they're beautifully refined and they make driving effortless. That is what I miss, being out of the barge game at the moment - that muscular V8 whirring and pumping under the bonnet; effortlessly deep reserves of power when you need it and wonderfully refined when you're just tootling. Magic! I'd rather that than slumming it in an old E Class, but different vinegar strokes for different folks.
r129sl said:
Jim the Sunderer said:
deadslow said:
That bodged up seatbelt is a bit out of place.deadslow said:
r129sl said:
Jim the Sunderer said:
deadslow said:
That bodged up seatbelt is a bit out of place.In a similar vein, though not a barge
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331264791678?ssPageName=...
6.0 litre V12, 70k, finishes in 20 min, currently at £4k
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331264791678?ssPageName=...
6.0 litre V12, 70k, finishes in 20 min, currently at £4k
slippery said:
deadslow said:
r129sl said:
Jim the Sunderer said:
deadslow said:
That bodged up seatbelt is a bit out of place.
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