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sday12 said:
That's a new one: 'Air Con needs a regas, KwikFit don't have the connector'
Yup, cheque is in the post. Right.
TBH it's a 700 quid car regardless of the big bills.
Its impossible to say without looking, the condition obviously varies so much car to car. If its as rust free as it looks and runs nicely I would have no problem handing over a grand. Yup, cheque is in the post. Right.
TBH it's a 700 quid car regardless of the big bills.
The a/c thing is the usual bks but then at least its fitted so if you want to splash the cash and get it running you can.
idiotgap said:
BrownBottle said:
So how come all you guys want a girls car?
The wife chose our R107 - back in 2007.She can't stand the slabbyness of a 129, it didn't matter how much I tried to persuade her it was the better car.
So yeah - the choice of the lady. Though I don't feel compromised driving it.
The decision making process actually went like this:-
ME: We're young and have no kids, I demand to buy a fun car to replace our golf with the savings I wasn't able to build up until you showed up with some extra cash, income of your own, more frugal ways/anti-frittering policy.
HER: OK - that sounds nice dear. Maybe when we've bought a big house.
small number of years pass
ME: We've bought a big house now which includes a garage - now, I really must insist on suggesting we blow our savings on more fun car.
HER: If it's a convertible, it either has to be a foldy metal roof one or a keep the golf and get a classic as well, there's no place for canvas on a new car in this day and age - it dates it too much. Oh - and I hate BMWs with untold passion, everyone who drives them is arrogant, pushy and besides my ex and all his family drove them so they evoke a sense of dark and terrible dread in my heart.
ME: err... ok... leave it with me. (after some minutes...) What do you think of this Merc on autotrader. (Jan 2007)
6 months pass...
Don't worry he drove hers as well
currently ay £2.5k 20 hrs to go
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301249717824?ssPageName=...
fair few miles but loadsa good maintenance
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301249717824?ssPageName=...
fair few miles but loadsa good maintenance
slippery said:
derin100 said:
slippery said:
dbdb said:
That's the way I remember it too - the Pagoda was always an expensive car. The R107 hardly dropped for a very long time too, with seventies cars still fairly expensive even in the mid-late eighties.
In 1991 I sold an immaculate (freshly re-sprayed) 150k 1979 350 SL for £9k and an immaculate 80k 1982 380 SL for £12.5k, if that info is of any use to anyone. Does make one wonder how or why R129 has become (currently) so cheap?
However, I think the prices of the likes of the Pagoda and latterly R107 are now driven by a completely different force of "speculation" and supposed"investment opportunities" in classic cars. A notion that seems to being peddled worryingly hard just at the moment?
I agree that the SL55 appears a bargain at current market values but I think that's for a different reason c.f R129. There is no getting away from the potentially catastrophic Bork Quotient on the SL55. I think that's what has driven them so low now. I nearly bought one before I bought my CSL. Good, low mileage ones (with Merc Warranties) were about £30K then. I don't have pockets deep enough or rose-tinted glasses dark enough to consider having one now. Not many people with any sense can afford to own one. People who do have enough money probably just buy new cars?
derin100 said:
Yes, I think all of those things you've alluded to and definitely the culture that surrounds what I've highlighted in bold from your text. Twenty to twenty five years ago there wasn't this culture of "everyone must have a new car" and so secondhand cars were generally considered a more valuable commodity.
However, I think the prices of the likes of the Pagoda and latterly R107 are now driven by a completely different force of "speculation" and supposed"investment opportunities" in classic cars. A notion that seems to being peddled worryingly hard just at the moment?
I agree that the SL55 appears a bargain at current market values but I think that's for a different reason c.f R129. There is no getting away from the potentially catastrophic Bork Quotient on the SL55. I think that's what has driven them so low now. I nearly bought one before I bought my CSL. Good, low mileage ones (with Merc Warranties) were about £30K then. I don't have pockets deep enough or rose-tinted glasses dark enough to consider having one now. Not many people with any sense can afford to own one. People who do have enough money probably just buy new cars?
You're probably right. I'm going to risk a massive flaming here, but I think the R230 SL (pre-facelift) is one of the better looking cars they've done for many years, and I prefer it to the R129 for styling. Then they RUINED the front end with the hideous facelift.However, I think the prices of the likes of the Pagoda and latterly R107 are now driven by a completely different force of "speculation" and supposed"investment opportunities" in classic cars. A notion that seems to being peddled worryingly hard just at the moment?
I agree that the SL55 appears a bargain at current market values but I think that's for a different reason c.f R129. There is no getting away from the potentially catastrophic Bork Quotient on the SL55. I think that's what has driven them so low now. I nearly bought one before I bought my CSL. Good, low mileage ones (with Merc Warranties) were about £30K then. I don't have pockets deep enough or rose-tinted glasses dark enough to consider having one now. Not many people with any sense can afford to own one. People who do have enough money probably just buy new cars?
E65Ross said:
You're probably right. I'm going to risk a massive flaming here, but I think the R230 SL (pre-facelift) is one of the better looking cars they've done for many years, and I prefer it to the R129 for styling. Then they RUINED the front end with the hideous facelift.
I agree. R230 is a stunning looking car!SuperHangOn said:
sday12 said:
That's a new one: 'Air Con needs a regas, KwikFit don't have the connector'
Yup, cheque is in the post. Right.
The a/c thing is the usual bks but then at least its fitted so if you want to splash the cash and get it running you can. Yup, cheque is in the post. Right.
Good news = no charge, and confirmation of what I was pretty sure would be the case.
Bad news = need to either get the compressor and other bits and pieces replaced, or may have to move the car on and start again. As I really like the old bus, I may have to spend some cash.
Any recommendations for decent aircon places near Farnborough?
Sterillium said:
Oof. Now that is seriously tempting. Almost the exact perfect spec for me.The interesting thing about the 107 is that there was still a waiting list when it went out of production. It also went straight from production to classic, largely because its production life was 18 years and because it was two or three generations old by the end: in other words, it was a classic already. By contrast, only now, 25years after its launch, is the 129 leaving behind its old car status and starting to enjoy its classic car status. No doubt the perceived complexity of the 129 puts people off as does the neglect that they endure so well. This latter I think is key to it: by the time the 129 ceased production, it was a different world. Not just ready finance. But people did not buy to keep and certainly no longer maintained to keep. And then the R230 had all of the latest wonder gizmos.
As for numbers produced, it is pretty similar for 107 and 129: about 225,000 of each; but of course, that was over 18 years for the 107 and only 12 for the 129.
As for numbers produced, it is pretty similar for 107 and 129: about 225,000 of each; but of course, that was over 18 years for the 107 and only 12 for the 129.
brickwall said:
Sterillium said:
Oof. Now that is seriously tempting. Almost the exact perfect spec for me.harry kular said:
derin100 said:
Not many people with any sense can afford to own one.
Saw two SL55 yesterday (rare in these parts), so I was eyeing one up today that has come up locally for £12k with FMBSH. Am I mad to consider it?r129sl said:
Car looks brand new, Ross. Imagine how good it would look if it were a 124. ;-)
I don't need to imagine, I've seen your car Either that, or were you suggesting something like "it looks brand new, E65s have ages really well..."
They're an ugly sod from the back, mind. I prefer the rear of the face-lift, but the front end of my one (perhaps uglier, but less generic)
edit - I forgot to ask r129sl - did you ever use that degreaser?? Thoughts?
Edited by E65Ross on Saturday 26th July 19:51
SpeckledJim said:
_Batty_ said:
I know it's not a Merc, but my friends GS300 at under a bag is epic value.
Been in it many a time and it's very honest. Hell of a lot of car for the money!
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...
I like that a lot. A very safe resting-place for £975.Been in it many a time and it's very honest. Hell of a lot of car for the money!
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...
I always found the lime-green instruments on these off-putting.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121394821170
Edited by SuperHangOn on Saturday 26th July 22:49
r129sl said:
The interesting thing about the 107 is that there was still a waiting list when it went out of production. It also went straight from production to classic, largely because its production life was 18 years and because it was two or three generations old by the end: in other words, it was a classic already. By contrast, only now, 25years after its launch, is the 129 leaving behind its old car status and starting to enjoy its classic car status. No doubt the perceived complexity of the 129 puts people off as does the neglect that they endure so well. This latter I think is key to it: by the time the 129 ceased production, it was a different world. Not just ready finance. But people did not buy to keep and certainly no longer maintained to keep. And then the R230 had all of the latest wonder gizmos.
As for numbers produced, it is pretty similar for 107 and 129: about 225,000 of each; but of course, that was over 18 years for the 107 and only 12 for the 129.
Very interesting and this helps explain the relative prices. Is the r129 complicated in reality (I was under the impression that aside from the roof much of it was w124?).As for numbers produced, it is pretty similar for 107 and 129: about 225,000 of each; but of course, that was over 18 years for the 107 and only 12 for the 129.
This weekend I am not driving a w124 (!) - I've borrowed the newly refreshed 320slk (the two seater not sure of W number) from the old folks for a long weekend (just back from welding, all bushes, suspension, steering damper, exhaust). I think the sun has got to me... I'm really enjoying it with the roof down (a pretty clever mechanism).
The car is transformed from the last time I drove it - and this is a 50k mile car. Pretty poor that they can be knackered at that mileage but now amusing enough to drive.
slippery said:
harry kular said:
derin100 said:
Not many people with any sense can afford to own one.
Saw two SL55 yesterday (rare in these parts), so I was eyeing one up today that has come up locally for £12k with FMBSH. Am I mad to consider it?Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff