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Sterillium said:
Green and overpriced, I'm oout.sday12 said:
Sterillium said:
Green and overpriced, I'm oout.
E65Ross said:
hornetrider said:
E65Ross said:
Lots 
If you're interested check my "blog" section in my garage for it. Only includes the work I've done myself and not the whole history of the car (which is full dealer and specialist).
2.5k in 10 months! (I don't include tyre costs) If you're interested check my "blog" section in my garage for it. Only includes the work I've done myself and not the whole history of the car (which is full dealer and specialist).
It's why it took me a while to love the car as, to get it to how I wanted it was costing a lot. But, wheel refurbishment aside (that's purely cosmetic) it's not needed a penny spent on it in the last 3k miles and the next service item is 7k miles away and that's just the microfilter. It will need new tyres around new years, at a guess, however.
It's had a front wishbone, steering centre tie rod and both track rod ends, OSR damper and spring, rear brakes (discs, pads, parking brake shoes) a battery and a rear electric window mechanism.
Even so, that only works out at roughly £100 a month, which isn't the end of the world on a 14 year old car with 140k on the clock, and there's nothing else left to do for now (famous last words!)
RDB said:
If it makes you feel any better, keeping the E38 would have cost you about a grand over the same period (probably more as I've done most of the work myself, which has saved me at least £300 in labour).
It's had a front wishbone, steering centre tie rod and both track rod ends, OSR damper and spring, rear brakes (discs, pads, parking brake shoes) a battery and a rear electric window mechanism.
Even so, that only works out at roughly £100 a month, which isn't the end of the world on a 14 year old car with 140k on the clock, and there's nothing else left to do for now (famous last words!)
Should certainly not have needed a new battery; that was quite a new one in there!!! Sorry to hear about the work needed, but as you say not too bad considering age and mileage I guess.It's had a front wishbone, steering centre tie rod and both track rod ends, OSR damper and spring, rear brakes (discs, pads, parking brake shoes) a battery and a rear electric window mechanism.
Even so, that only works out at roughly £100 a month, which isn't the end of the world on a 14 year old car with 140k on the clock, and there's nothing else left to do for now (famous last words!)
How's it been reliability-wise? Let me down once that car, and turned out it was my fault
Very good car E65Ross said:
RDB said:
If it makes you feel any better, keeping the E38 would have cost you about a grand over the same period (probably more as I've done most of the work myself, which has saved me at least £300 in labour).
It's had a front wishbone, steering centre tie rod and both track rod ends, OSR damper and spring, rear brakes (discs, pads, parking brake shoes) a battery and a rear electric window mechanism.
Even so, that only works out at roughly £100 a month, which isn't the end of the world on a 14 year old car with 140k on the clock, and there's nothing else left to do for now (famous last words!)
Should certainly not have needed a new battery; that was quite a new one in there!!! Sorry to hear about the work needed, but as you say not too bad considering age and mileage I guess.It's had a front wishbone, steering centre tie rod and both track rod ends, OSR damper and spring, rear brakes (discs, pads, parking brake shoes) a battery and a rear electric window mechanism.
Even so, that only works out at roughly £100 a month, which isn't the end of the world on a 14 year old car with 140k on the clock, and there's nothing else left to do for now (famous last words!)
How's it been reliability-wise? Let me down once that car, and turned out it was my fault
Very good car I was a bit surprised at the battery dying, but I'd been doing mainly short journeys for a while which didn't help. It went flat while the car was off the road for a couple of weeks waiting for a new spring to arrive from Germany and wasn't ever the same afterwards. We were about to go on holiday so rather than risking getting stranded I just swapped it out. I'd rather spend the money than worry if it's going cause problems in another couple of months.
Brakes are consumable and the window mechanisms are a common fault so no complaints there. At the end of the day, some bits will be reaching the end of their expected life and will need replacing. It's a great family car (no MPVs here!) and other than the dead battery I haven't had any reliability problems. I don't do a lot of miles but every now and then we do 400 miles in a weekend, which it's perfect for.
I gave a work colleague a lift in it the other day and he was still talking about what a good car it is the next day
I was surprised because he's used to a reasonable level of comfort in his RR Evoque!RDB said:
It's not really been problematic, it just looks bad when you list it all together. I'd always planned to change that last original corner of the suspension as I knew the rest was new, but the strut had rusted and it collapsed, which made me get on with doing the work. I made sure I matched it to the other 3 corners which meant buying a BMW spring, but it was worth doing properly.
I was a bit surprised at the battery dying, but I'd been doing mainly short journeys for a while which didn't help. It went flat while the car was off the road for a couple of weeks waiting for a new spring to arrive from Germany and wasn't ever the same afterwards. We were about to go on holiday so rather than risking getting stranded I just swapped it out. I'd rather spend the money than worry if it's going cause problems in another couple of months.
Brakes are consumable and the window mechanisms are a common fault so no complaints there. At the end of the day, some bits will be reaching the end of their expected life and will need replacing. It's a great family car (no MPVs here!) and other than the dead battery I haven't had any reliability problems. I don't do a lot of miles but every now and then we do 400 miles in a weekend, which it's perfect for.
I gave a work colleague a lift in it the other day and he was still talking about what a good car it is the next day I was surprised because he's used to a reasonable level of comfort in his RR Evoque!
Fair enough and glad to hear it's generally given you good service. Still maintain it's a good car that one I was a bit surprised at the battery dying, but I'd been doing mainly short journeys for a while which didn't help. It went flat while the car was off the road for a couple of weeks waiting for a new spring to arrive from Germany and wasn't ever the same afterwards. We were about to go on holiday so rather than risking getting stranded I just swapped it out. I'd rather spend the money than worry if it's going cause problems in another couple of months.
Brakes are consumable and the window mechanisms are a common fault so no complaints there. At the end of the day, some bits will be reaching the end of their expected life and will need replacing. It's a great family car (no MPVs here!) and other than the dead battery I haven't had any reliability problems. I don't do a lot of miles but every now and then we do 400 miles in a weekend, which it's perfect for.
I gave a work colleague a lift in it the other day and he was still talking about what a good car it is the next day
I was surprised because he's used to a reasonable level of comfort in his RR Evoque!Hope you don't regret buying it, that's the main thing!
r129sl said:
The big w140 downside is it is big and heavy. The example I was driving suffered its wear: it is very tiring if you have to adjust the steering constantly to keep it on track, if it hops and skips over every lateral break and if the damping is inadequate. These latter could all be sorted and quite cheaply but the size and weight issues affect even the best cars. Unlike an E38, the 140 does not do yumps and jumps at all well. The refinement is extremely good: much quieter and much more refined than the 124, a different league. But it means the car also lacks the directness and responsiveness of the 124. Not for me, I have decided.
A W140 should actually feel quite nimble. If it doesn't, it is knackered. First thing to check is the steering damper - a cheap and easy replacement which can make a big difference. A sorted W140 should be a more direct, modern feeling, drive than a 124.However, I've actually never found them that refined. Behind a E38 and miles behind a Lexus from the same era.
Baryonyx said:
Have you tried an X308 XJ up close? They are beautiful things but they could not be more different from the E65. The Jaguar feels a world apart from even it's contemporary competition with it's classic styling. Some of the interior touches are dreadful (a tape player on a late 90's Luxury car?), some of them sublime. For a massive car, the interior doesn't half shrink around you and the low seating position and long bonnet make it feel very much the individual. The drive is fantastic though.
It easy easy to pick holes in an X308. Often quite literally with your index finger. But. But. There is something about them. They actually have the best ride/handling setup of any car from that era and possibly since. Way ahead of the German stuff. The Lexus is frankly way ahead in any rational sense and the better car...yet I can fully understand why someone might choose an X308 instead.
confused_buyer said:
Baryonyx said:
Have you tried an X308 XJ up close? They are beautiful things but they could not be more different from the E65. The Jaguar feels a world apart from even it's contemporary competition with it's classic styling. Some of the interior touches are dreadful (a tape player on a late 90's Luxury car?), some of them sublime. For a massive car, the interior doesn't half shrink around you and the low seating position and long bonnet make it feel very much the individual. The drive is fantastic though.
It easy easy to pick holes in an X308. Often quite literally with your index finger. But. But. There is something about them. They actually have the best ride/handling setup of any car from that era and possibly since. Way ahead of the German stuff. The Lexus is frankly way ahead in any rational sense and the better car...yet I can fully understand why someone might choose an X308 instead.
I'm happy to do 800 miles plus in a day in the W124 because I actually like driving it - the A8 was sanitised and was more painful on my regular 1k round trip in a weekend because it was dull.
As you can see there's no rational thinking here - the rational thinker takes flybe in any case!
r129sl said:
I used to drive until the fuel ran out but now I stop about once every 250miles. Going down to Swansea and back I stop once in each direction. If I have to be there early, I break overnight at Worcester Premier Inn or Oswestry Travelodge.
Some time ago now I fell asleep at the wheel a couple of times and, while nothing bad happened, it made me realise that once tiredness sets in I have to take a decent break. It's funny, when I was younger I did even more driving than I do now and it had little effect. These days a long drive (which I'd put at 400miles in a day) leaves me tired for a couple of days afterwards. The 124 is easier than the 140 but then the 140 I was driving is itself a bit on the tired and worn side. Having to make constant adjustments at the wheel is hard work. It is also a very big car compared with the 124. Yesterday I came up through Lampeter and Tregaron and while it was beautiful country it was a lot of effort pressing it up narrow roads without losing time.
No wonder you're tired. I probably wouldn't use that route for the journey. Some time ago now I fell asleep at the wheel a couple of times and, while nothing bad happened, it made me realise that once tiredness sets in I have to take a decent break. It's funny, when I was younger I did even more driving than I do now and it had little effect. These days a long drive (which I'd put at 400miles in a day) leaves me tired for a couple of days afterwards. The 124 is easier than the 140 but then the 140 I was driving is itself a bit on the tired and worn side. Having to make constant adjustments at the wheel is hard work. It is also a very big car compared with the 124. Yesterday I came up through Lampeter and Tregaron and while it was beautiful country it was a lot of effort pressing it up narrow roads without losing time.
Edited by r129sl on Wednesday 20th August 22:41
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