Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 5
Discussion
blinkythefish said:
fluffnik said:
HenryJM said:
fluffnik said:
simoid said:
Btw - Fluff, we're still waiting to see your "evidence" that London is a leech on the Scottish economy, or whatever it was.
20th Century, with sources.
Oh, boy, Wings over Scotland! 
HenryJM said:
blinkythefish said:
fluffnik said:
HenryJM said:
fluffnik said:
simoid said:
Btw - Fluff, we're still waiting to see your "evidence" that London is a leech on the Scottish economy, or whatever it was.
20th Century, with sources. Oh, boy, Wings over Scotland! FourWheelDrift said:
Is this the same Wings over Scotland website that's hosted in London?
Damn those English and their nasty IP addresses leeching all the traffic from those poor Scottish hosts.
Authored in England, hosted in England - all except his 'excellent content' which seems to be in Canada.Damn those English and their nasty IP addresses leeching all the traffic from those poor Scottish hosts.
fluffnik said:
blinkythefish said:
Have you tried following the links to his sources? They do not go anywhere other than his own website.
The sources are in the spreadsheet.http://parlipapers.chadwyck.co.uk/fulltext/fulltex...
Feel free to follow that. It takes you straight to a copy of the original source. Oh no, wait, it disnae, it takes you to a paywall, which seems to be possible to get through with an NLS login, but I've logged into my NLS account and there is no obvious route through. Given the "WoS always cites its sources therefore it is correct" spiel that seems to get used all the time, you would think he would learn how to actually cite a reference(hint copying and pasting a dead link doesn't count).
Still all the WoS devotees are exclaiming what a wonderful article it is - I'm sure they've all been and checked the sources.
I'll tear him down quickly, it's not even worth doing properly.
http://www.dippam.ac.uk/eppi/documents/18910/page/...
That's a page from a parliamentary paper, which includes numbers for England & Wales, Scotland, and Ireland.
England and Wales had 32% of revenue spent locally, and Scotland 34% that year.
As I say, I can't be arsed to find all of the years my homeboy (we're both from Bath, after all) has used, but I'd take a punt about the proportions being similar.
What does it mean? It means that Scotland got an empire on the cheap. Far, far cheaper than Darien, anyway.
http://www.dippam.ac.uk/eppi/documents/18910/page/...
That's a page from a parliamentary paper, which includes numbers for England & Wales, Scotland, and Ireland.
England and Wales had 32% of revenue spent locally, and Scotland 34% that year.
As I say, I can't be arsed to find all of the years my homeboy (we're both from Bath, after all) has used, but I'd take a punt about the proportions being similar.
What does it mean? It means that Scotland got an empire on the cheap. Far, far cheaper than Darien, anyway.
davepoth said:
I'll tear him down quickly, it's not even worth doing properly.
http://www.dippam.ac.uk/eppi/documents/18910/page/...
That's a page from a parliamentary paper, which includes numbers for England & Wales, Scotland, and Ireland.
England and Wales had 32% of revenue spent locally, and Scotland 34% that year.
As I say, I can't be arsed to find all of the years my homeboy (we're both from Bath, after all) has used, but I'd take a punt about the proportions being similar.
What does it mean? It means that Scotland got an empire on the cheap. Far, far cheaper than Darien, anyway.
So Fluff/WoS/Rev Stuarts figures are all misleading nonsense. What a surprise. http://www.dippam.ac.uk/eppi/documents/18910/page/...
That's a page from a parliamentary paper, which includes numbers for England & Wales, Scotland, and Ireland.
England and Wales had 32% of revenue spent locally, and Scotland 34% that year.
As I say, I can't be arsed to find all of the years my homeboy (we're both from Bath, after all) has used, but I'd take a punt about the proportions being similar.
What does it mean? It means that Scotland got an empire on the cheap. Far, far cheaper than Darien, anyway.
fluffnik said:
Can someone tell me if that website is genuine or if its just a piss take? It just seems to be full of crap and the logo is a little too much like the Reichsadler for my liking.
xrv said:
Can someone tell me if that website is genuine or if its just a piss take?
It just seems to be full of crap and the logo is a little too much like the Reichsadler for my liking.
It's a propaganda site for the converted, it puts out nonsense to convince the Nats that what they think is right. It's published in England by a bloke in Bath who calls himself the Rev Stuart, we can only assume that Rev stands, in his case, for "Revolting" because it's not a valid religious title.It just seems to be full of crap and the logo is a little too much like the Reichsadler for my liking.
He's a former games journalist where he has been described as ""Despicable [and] universally hated by the games industry."
Bring thing this back up
Ever seen "vote NO" spray painted onto a wall?
Me neitherNo and I've never seen Vote Yes spray painted onto a wall either.
Marketing material isn't graffiti.
Ever seen No posters or marketing, or No campaigners on the street?
http://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/news/local/police-...
The GUESS campaign is attracting scummy little morons
Now show me the same behaviour from my side of the fence
Edinburger said:
McWigglebum4th said:
Ever seen "vote NO" spray painted onto a wall?
Me neither
Marketing material isn't graffiti.
Ever seen No posters or marketing, or No campaigners on the street?
http://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/news/local/police-...
The GUESS campaign is attracting scummy little morons
Now show me the same behaviour from my side of the fence
McWigglebum4th said:
http://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/news/local/police-...
The GUESS campaign is attracting scummy little morons
Now show me the same behaviour from my side of the fence
The newspaper comments are interesting - the paper is getting attacked now for publishing the story of the graffiti and hence - in the eyes of the Yesers - showing union bias.The GUESS campaign is attracting scummy little morons
Now show me the same behaviour from my side of the fence
One Yes poster - in effect defending the graffiti - accuses those defending the story and reporting "knuckledragging idiots". The irony.
Edited by ///ajd on Saturday 19th July 09:15
So would all the Scots have to leave the UK if they voted yes? As they wouldn't be in the EU, so wouldn't be able to work or live there anymore?
Can't see it having been discussed anywhere in the news, I assume it's something that would come a little later on the in the negotiations. Interesting though.
Can't see it having been discussed anywhere in the news, I assume it's something that would come a little later on the in the negotiations. Interesting though.
More relentless scaremongering from nat mouthpiece.
http://wingsoverscotland.com/before-you-do-anythin...
http://wingsoverscotland.com/before-you-do-anythin...
OllyMo said:
So would all the Scots have to leave the UK if they voted yes? As they wouldn't be in the EU, so wouldn't be able to work or live there anymore?
Can't see it having been discussed anywhere in the news, I assume it's something that would come a little later on the in the negotiations. Interesting though.
Shouldn't think so - I imagine that all Scots would have dual UK/Scottish nationality...Can't see it having been discussed anywhere in the news, I assume it's something that would come a little later on the in the negotiations. Interesting though.
DanL said:
OllyMo said:
So would all the Scots have to leave the UK if they voted yes? As they wouldn't be in the EU, so wouldn't be able to work or live there anymore?
Can't see it having been discussed anywhere in the news, I assume it's something that would come a little later on the in the negotiations. Interesting though.
Shouldn't think so - I imagine that all Scots would have dual UK/Scottish nationality...Can't see it having been discussed anywhere in the news, I assume it's something that would come a little later on the in the negotiations. Interesting though.
Let them go and be done with it. If we can still live and work there, and they can still live and work here, then not much will have changed. Granted, the will have massively shot themselves in the foot in a number of ways, but that's their decision.
DanL said:
OllyMo said:
So would all the Scots have to leave the UK if they voted yes? As they wouldn't be in the EU, so wouldn't be able to work or live there anymore?
Can't see it having been discussed anywhere in the news, I assume it's something that would come a little later on the in the negotiations. Interesting though.
Shouldn't think so - I imagine that all Scots would have dual UK/Scottish nationality...Can't see it having been discussed anywhere in the news, I assume it's something that would come a little later on the in the negotiations. Interesting though.
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