640D depreciation
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[report] [news] Yesterday (23:47)
doc261 said:
My two year lease on a 640d coupe is about to end and BMW will sell it to me for 35k but I fancy a change
How have you found living with it?
How do you find handling?
How was it, any issues, real life mpg etc. I am thinking of getting a four door, maybe?
Thanks
[report] [news] Yesterday (23:47)
doc261 said:
My two year lease on a 640d coupe is about to end and BMW will sell it to me for 35k but I fancy a change
How have you found living with it?
How do you find handling?
How was it, any issues, real life mpg etc. I am thinking of getting a four door, maybe?
Thanks
I have loved it.
The good things, the interior is very good quality. The engine is superb. Never seems to run out of power, awesome acceleration. It is a great tourer. We took it to France last year and it eat up the miles in supreme comfort. Good brakes. Big boot. Very smooth ride, good road holding in sport mode it is a beast, comfort is ok for every day whilst Eco pro is awful except perhaps at motorway cruising sorted.
The bad, it is a big car. The rear seats like many of this type of car are not really useable. It is a heavy car so it's not very nimble in twisty roads but feels well planted.
Average MPG since I bought it according to OBC is 35.3, mainly shorter distances.
Great car.
The good things, the interior is very good quality. The engine is superb. Never seems to run out of power, awesome acceleration. It is a great tourer. We took it to France last year and it eat up the miles in supreme comfort. Good brakes. Big boot. Very smooth ride, good road holding in sport mode it is a beast, comfort is ok for every day whilst Eco pro is awful except perhaps at motorway cruising sorted.
The bad, it is a big car. The rear seats like many of this type of car are not really useable. It is a heavy car so it's not very nimble in twisty roads but feels well planted.
Average MPG since I bought it according to OBC is 35.3, mainly shorter distances.
Great car.
Edited by doc261 on Thursday 10th April 00:25
I have loved it.
The good things, the interior is very good quality. The engine is superb. Never seems to run out of power, awesome acceleration. It is a great tourer. We took it to France last year and it eat up the miles in supreme comfort. Good brakes. Big boot. Very smooth ride, good road holding in sport mode it is a beast, comfort is ok for every day whilst Eco pro is awful except perhaps at motorway cruising sorted.
The bad, it is a big car. The rear seats like many of this type of car are not really useable. It is a heavy car so it's not very nimble in twisty roads but feels well planted.
Average MPG since I bought it according to OBC is 35.3, mainly shorter distances.
Great car.
The good things, the interior is very good quality. The engine is superb. Never seems to run out of power, awesome acceleration. It is a great tourer. We took it to France last year and it eat up the miles in supreme comfort. Good brakes. Big boot. Very smooth ride, good road holding in sport mode it is a beast, comfort is ok for every day whilst Eco pro is awful except perhaps at motorway cruising sorted.
The bad, it is a big car. The rear seats like many of this type of car are not really useable. It is a heavy car so it's not very nimble in twisty roads but feels well planted.
Average MPG since I bought it according to OBC is 35.3, mainly shorter distances.
Great car.
Edited by doc261 on Thursday 10th April 00:27
£30-35k for a 640d M sport used is a great price range.
Look for 3-4 years down the line they will still be a £15k car - for someone opting out of co car and taking the cash its very tempting.
I don't see many of these but when I do on the M way they have presence - and normally are going at A very high pace
Look for 3-4 years down the line they will still be a £15k car - for someone opting out of co car and taking the cash its very tempting.
I don't see many of these but when I do on the M way they have presence - and normally are going at A very high pace
Marlow11 said:
How was it, any issues, real life mpg etc. I am thinking of getting a four door, maybe?
With the 640d GC I get 35mpg in gentle urban/suburban, it doesn't get much above 40mpg on As and Bs unless they're straight with gentle turns, and it pushes towards 50mpg on long motorway/dual carriageway runs at constant speed.Basically I get the feeling that it has two modes - steady state which brings out the good mpg numbers near 50mpg and anything where the accelerator varies which drops to 35mpg. The dips and bends on country roads tends towards the latter more than the former.
The engine and transmission are nothing short of a brilliant partnership. The agility in terms of the ability to exploit a straight for overtaking or in slower traffic to take on opportunities just defies the car's weight.
The interior is excellent. The back is a little claustrophobic but comfortable.
Th bad stuff? Well I think the steering isn't great. It steers well but the electric steering doesn't give much feel. You just have to trust it to do what it does. The rear is well planted at speed but I find with the original Dunlop Maxx GTs that it likes to sort of shimmy sideways in low speed bends - you get used to it but it doesn't inspire confidence.
The suspension is IMO not great and the combination of the ROF tyres transmits quite a bit of surface vibration and judder at lower speeds (say 40 and below) which is most noticeable when thre are no passengers. The passenger seat shakes and shudders - which means anything loose in the seatbelt mechanism is going to make noise - as will the seatbelt tongue against the seat. The buckle also knocks and judders between the seat and transmission tunnel in some circumstances. Stupid minor but disproportionately irritating. Mine's been back to the dealer once to alleviate this.
Above 40 and on the open road things are fine.
The boot isn't as large as the numbers suggest it should be. The aperture is tight (particularly for getting larger rigid suitcases in and out of easily) and the rear wheel arches intrude.
The on-tap torque and weight make it a potential tyre eater even if you think you're light footed. The Dunlop Maxx GTs were approaching half worn at 7K on the rear. I'm estimating 14K from the rears and possibly 22K on the fronts.
The strength of the 6GC is as a long distance express machine with at least one passenger. Weakness is as an about town suburban commuter one up - while ity's actually quite agile in this mode of use it's not refined enough.
The jury is out as to whether I will go with another 6er when my lease expires. I think for the money it should be better dynamically. But the powertrain provides a dilemma - I don't want to lose it. And the exterior and interior packaging is nice. Having experienced the tractability and usable performance it offers on the road (the respectable 0-60 time doesn't tell the real story). My overall thoughts are that it is slightly flawed. Not quite special enough compared with the 5.
In a perfect world it would look exactly as it currently does inside and out and have exactly the same powertrain but come with traditional power steering, a better adaptive suspension as standard, ..... and be 200Kg lighter.
If you're looking for a used one then try and get one with the adaptive suspension option (it will have Comfort+ mode in addition to Comfort). I'd also suggest the reversing camera as the rear visiblity is quite poor. The surround cameras are possibly a nice to have if you are using it around town - but after the first few weeks I don't really notice its size. I personally didn't think it was too bad on 19" wheels (it suits the 19" and the 20" well appearance wise) though I run mine on 18s. The vast majority out there are M Sport versions - same basic suspension but they come with upgraded front seats, usually the 20" double spoke wheels, and the full leather dash trim.
Thanks doc261 and Dryce.
Very useful.
The only thing that puts me off is the size, I've never had much bigger than an M3 before. Everytimes I see one in a car park I notice it hanging over the while line like a range rover
and living in London wonder if I need such a big motor.
As Dryce, sure i'll get used to it pretty quick.
Very useful.
The only thing that puts me off is the size, I've never had much bigger than an M3 before. Everytimes I see one in a car park I notice it hanging over the while line like a range rover
and living in London wonder if I need such a big motor. As Dryce, sure i'll get used to it pretty quick.
Doc & Dryce
Sorry for my late thanks.........but thanks for the info
I parked at the back of one the other day, it's similar length to the A6 and about 5/6" wider.
Talked to the owner and he loved his car, my other half liked the car to; in pics she didn't think much of them but in the flesh she likes. She's even been looking at them on autotrader & BMW........looks promising?
Sorry for my late thanks.........but thanks for the info
I parked at the back of one the other day, it's similar length to the A6 and about 5/6" wider.
Talked to the owner and he loved his car, my other half liked the car to; in pics she didn't think much of them but in the flesh she likes. She's even been looking at them on autotrader & BMW........looks promising?
For price comparison:
Prices through the years of my 650 Sport
RRP Nov 2005: £67,000 (£55k basic + £12 extras), Not sure what was actually paid.
Apr 2010 @ 43,500 miles: Previous owner paid £24,500 from BMW
July 2011 @ 47,000 miles: I paid £15,200 private
April 2014 @ 110k miles: Estimate would be £7.5k
I plan on keeping it for another 3 or 4 years or until it becomes uneconomical to repair, which could be something as simple as 4 tyres and a service.
I would imagine that the 640d should depreciate more gently
Electric steering, you get used to it and grow to like (if not love) it.
You get used to the size very quickly, but do not expect to be able to fit into every space. Coupe rear seats are perfect (for 2 Cocker Spaniels) and OK for little people / short distances if you are less that 5 foot 10.
I had a 640d GC as a loaner for a recall and found the handling to be nowhere near as sharp as the coupe. I thought I would hate the tractor fuelled version, but was very impressed with the diesel. I thought it looked great, loved the extra space in the back and thought the interior was a serious improvement on mine as is the appearance.
A definate canidate for my next car, but have been frequenting the Jaguar XK F type coupe recently.
Prices through the years of my 650 Sport
RRP Nov 2005: £67,000 (£55k basic + £12 extras), Not sure what was actually paid.
Apr 2010 @ 43,500 miles: Previous owner paid £24,500 from BMW
July 2011 @ 47,000 miles: I paid £15,200 private
April 2014 @ 110k miles: Estimate would be £7.5k
I plan on keeping it for another 3 or 4 years or until it becomes uneconomical to repair, which could be something as simple as 4 tyres and a service.
I would imagine that the 640d should depreciate more gently
Electric steering, you get used to it and grow to like (if not love) it.
You get used to the size very quickly, but do not expect to be able to fit into every space. Coupe rear seats are perfect (for 2 Cocker Spaniels) and OK for little people / short distances if you are less that 5 foot 10.
I had a 640d GC as a loaner for a recall and found the handling to be nowhere near as sharp as the coupe. I thought I would hate the tractor fuelled version, but was very impressed with the diesel. I thought it looked great, loved the extra space in the back and thought the interior was a serious improvement on mine as is the appearance.
A definate canidate for my next car, but have been frequenting the Jaguar XK F type coupe recently.
Edited by gf15 on Sunday 20th April 08:16
The VAT element of a cars price doesn't magically disappear, it's a myth that you lose the VAT as you drive off the forecourt. Edinburger said:
The 640D Gran Coupe seems to retail c.£50K for a model under a year old with decent spec which is often £20-£30K lost.
Incredible really. Even accounting for VAT.
A 6GC can be had new with a large discount making them retail for 55k inc a few options. Makes it a 5-10k loss in one year.Incredible really. Even accounting for VAT.
Jon1967x said:
A 6GC can be had new with a large discount making them retail for 55k inc a few options. Makes it a 5-10k loss in one year.
Book part-ex values were under £40K at a year old last time I looked.Any dealer trying to shift a used one at say £45K is going to have a hard time shifting it on a finance package against some of the contract hire deals on new ones.
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