640D depreciation

640D depreciation

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handbraketurn

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1,371 posts

166 months

Sunday 6th April 2014
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The current 6 series has taken an battering on re-sale depreciation.

A relatively well spec'd 640D M-sport with average miles can be picked up with a year or so warranty from mid £30k's which for a car with a list price over £70k is quite a hit. Not nice if you bought one new.

On the flip side, if you're in the used car market, that seems like an awful lot of car for that money.

Interested to hear BMW aficionado's opinion on whether the depreciation will tail off after having such a steep initial decline or keep on plummeting?

CMJ

201 posts

247 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Many cars were sold on contract hire and now finding their way back to the dealer network. Unlikely to keep falling as like you say a hell of a lot of car for £30ish k

JRBM5

161 posts

139 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Will flatten for a couple of years then continue to fall at a normal rate. Still lovely cars regardless of price and such a step up interior wise than either the 5 or 3 Series.

converted lurker

304 posts

126 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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I'm in the market for a F10 530/5d and I keep finding these 640d's for ten grand more with half the age athird the miles and twice the spec.

Pity I need rear doors. In two years time there might well be a Gran Coupe with my name on it if they follow the same curve as the two doors. There was a news unregistered Gran Coupe 640d M sport in white on the showroom floor last week that already had a 'dealer contribution' of £17,000 in the window..

handbraketurn

Original Poster:

1,371 posts

166 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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That was my thinking, must tail off now, its had a big hit already.

Got a bit of a slating for being dull to drive in the media, which probably helped put nails in the coffin of new sales.

I did note that nearly all of the test cars on the negative reviews at the four wheel steering, so I'm not sure if standard steering is an improvement on handling. I couldn't help feeling they were being overly negative, can't be that bad.

I'm quite tempted with one for a while as have some big journeys coming up, was thinking 6-12 months and pass on before it takes too much more of a hit.

The only thing that puts me off is the size, its freaking massive compared to my 3 series coupe. biggrin

5to1

1,781 posts

233 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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handbraketurn said:
A relatively well spec'd 640D M-sport with average miles can be picked up with a year or so warranty from mid £30k's which for a car with a list price over £70k is quite a hit. Not nice if you bought one new.
That assumes those people paid £70k, from my experience buying my GC shortly after release, I doubt many did. If you look back through posts about finance deals, there were a few on the 6 series bringing actual price paid close to the top end of the 5's or even 3's. Moreover almost from the very beginning "AUC" (quotes since they were essentially new) had hefty discounts bringing them close to the top end of the 5's.

RRPs are really becoming irrelevant these days, other then getting you stung if its a company car. On the 6 if you calculate depreciation based on price likely paid (the finance deals and "AUC" cars give you a clue), its pretty much in line with any big "premium" car. Still a swift kick in the nuts mind frown

Edited by 5to1 on Monday 7th April 12:31

benny 61

467 posts

184 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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The OP says you can get a 640d for mid 30's, will this be the old shape or the newer shape, as i dont know when they came in.

gjf764

1,304 posts

175 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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benny 61 said:
The OP says you can get a 640d for mid 30's, will this be the old shape or the newer shape, as i dont know when they came in.
Must mean the new one, the old 6 series diesel was the 635d

laingy

676 posts

241 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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seems the 640d are touching 30k now.

Jon1967x

7,219 posts

124 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Bmw have been running massive dealer/bmw contribution for a while - 15k as a minimum. The coupe is also the least popular sales wise with the GC and conv being the sellers.

There are a few GC now sub 40k which when you compare it to some BMWs is a bargain.

I think (and hope) things will level off now with maybe just a 5k drop per year.


Leon19841

63 posts

120 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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A friends dad got a 12 month old M6, Orange fully loaded with 5k miles on for £60k. Original owner spec'd the car up to £120k! Not sure what he actually paid for it but even with big discounts that is some depreciation for a year and 5k miles

Alfa numeric

3,025 posts

179 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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I don't know if you've seen it but this chap bought a new 640d GC and got a £28k discount. It pays to be in the right place at the right time!


5to1

1,781 posts

233 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Alfa numeric said:
I don't know if you've seen it but this chap bought a new 640d GC and got a £28k discount. It pays to be in the right place at the right time!
I got similar and that was only 4 months after release. Hence my previous post questioning wether anyone paid close to RRP.

converted lurker

304 posts

126 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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It annoys me that the rrp and the actual new prices are so far adrift it's like some tacky retail operation tactic where the huge discount is to a price nobody paid in the first place.

Makes everyone nervous that their deal is crap.

It seems if people are getting £25k plus off list that early depreciation in reality is not bad at all.

RichardM5

1,736 posts

136 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Leon19841 said:
A friends dad got a 12 month old M6, Orange fully loaded with 5k miles on for £60k. Original owner spec'd the car up to £120k! Not sure what he actually paid for it but even with big discounts that is some depreciation for a year and 5k miles
I' be willing to bet that would be a BMW UK demo car, used for magazine reviews etc. They sell them off at about 5K at a big discount and they are almost always fully loaded.

The M6 GC that was used in the review Chris Harris did vs the merc and Jag has just been sold as an AUC, it was listed at about 75k, probably list would be in the 125k region. But then it's had 5k miles being driven by journalists like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-yCupxxErM


Jon1967x

7,219 posts

124 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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I bought an ex press car - about 6 months old, 3k on the clock, from memory 20k of extras making it list at 83k for 30k less. If its not spent its first few months going sideways and you like your options press cars are good value. Having stuck 34k miles on it I'd now be lucky to see 40k for it frown

E65Ross

35,068 posts

212 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Leon19841 said:
A friends dad got a 12 month old M6, Orange fully loaded with 5k miles on for £60k. Original owner spec'd the car up to £120k! Not sure what he actually paid for it but even with big discounts that is some depreciation for a year and 5k miles
I'm not your friend am I? hehe

My old man got a Sakhir Orange "62" plate with 2.5k on the clock in December, list price was £108k (coupe, fully specced basically except not carbon ceramics or comp pack but everything else ticked pretty much) and got it for £65k. Crazy.

5to1

1,781 posts

233 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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converted lurker said:
It annoys me that the rrp and the actual new prices are so far adrift it's like some tacky retail operation tactic where the huge discount is to a price nobody paid in the first place.

Makes everyone nervous that their deal is crap.

It seems if people are getting £25k plus off list that early depreciation in reality is not bad at all.
The other problem is the RRP is used as the P11D value, going this route manufacturers are shooting themselves in the foot and customers in the wallet, the only one laughing is the tax man frown

doc261

100 posts

122 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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My two year lease on a 640d coupe is about to end and BMW will sell it to me for 35k but I fancy a change

doc261

100 posts

122 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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My two year lease on a 640d coupe is about to end and BMW will sell it to me for 35k but I fancy a change