The PH London Marathon 2014 Thread
Discussion
john2443 said:
I haven't watched this, but on BBC red button, Richard Nerurkar was commentating on the elite race - you might find that more pleasing.
I was told at the weekend that they don't still do the '5 tries and you're in thing' but this wasn't official, just from a runner.
Not a name or voice I'm familiar with tbh. Maybe give it a bash next year I was told at the weekend that they don't still do the '5 tries and you're in thing' but this wasn't official, just from a runner.
ref 5 times. yeah I suspect it was dropped. It "allegedly" happened when Virgin Money came on board. Whether that was coincidence or by design who knows. I accept it's a ballot. And I'll probably be unlucky next year. But I HATE to see these celeb nobodies getting places over people who actually train and want to do well at the event. (though I'm nowhere neat a GFA slot
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I'm definitely in the completely ar$ed it up category. The heat just sucked all the energy out of me by around 18 miles. From there it was walk/jog for 2-3 miles and then I just had to walk. Those last 5 miles were all done in the mind, the legs had nothing left. I can honestly say I have never known such physical pain.
I was doing well up to that point - my split times through to 25K were all on target, in fact between 20 and 25K was my quickest by around 30 seconds.
What got me through it were 3 things. Firstly the number of people who have donated to the charity, secondly knowing that my friends were there to support me. Last but not least the wonderful London crowd who kept on encouraging me to the end. Thanks to all of you.
The most important thing is I made £3000 for my charity. Roll on next year and I'll be training better at get back to around 4 hours. Ballot opens Tuesday!
One dark side to the whole day though. As I was walking down Birdcage Walk on the way to the finish I had to stop for a stretcher wheeling someone across who looked in a bad way. It's only now that his identity has been revealed that I realise it was Rob Berry who later died in hospital.
You, sir, are the full and complete definition of a hero. As a fellow runner that day I salute you and it was an honour to be in the same race in which you made the ultimate sacrifice to do good for others.
RIP Rob Berry
I was doing well up to that point - my split times through to 25K were all on target, in fact between 20 and 25K was my quickest by around 30 seconds.
What got me through it were 3 things. Firstly the number of people who have donated to the charity, secondly knowing that my friends were there to support me. Last but not least the wonderful London crowd who kept on encouraging me to the end. Thanks to all of you.
The most important thing is I made £3000 for my charity. Roll on next year and I'll be training better at get back to around 4 hours. Ballot opens Tuesday!
One dark side to the whole day though. As I was walking down Birdcage Walk on the way to the finish I had to stop for a stretcher wheeling someone across who looked in a bad way. It's only now that his identity has been revealed that I realise it was Rob Berry who later died in hospital.
You, sir, are the full and complete definition of a hero. As a fellow runner that day I salute you and it was an honour to be in the same race in which you made the ultimate sacrifice to do good for others.
RIP Rob Berry
merc_man said:
I'm definitely in the completely ar$ed it up category. The heat just sucked all the energy out of me by around 18 miles. From there it was walk/jog for 2-3 miles and then I just had to walk. Those last 5 miles were all done in the mind, the legs had nothing left. I can honestly say I have never known such physical pain.
I was doing well up to that point - my split times through to 25K were all on target, in fact between 20 and 25K was my quickest by around 30 seconds.
What got me through it were 3 things. Firstly the number of people who have donated to the charity, secondly knowing that my friends were there to support me. Last but not least the wonderful London crowd who kept on encouraging me to the end. Thanks to all of you.
The most important thing is I made £3000 for my charity. Roll on next year and I'll be training better at get back to around 4 hours. Ballot opens Tuesday!
One dark side to the whole day though. As I was walking down Birdcage Walk on the way to the finish I had to stop for a stretcher wheeling someone across who looked in a bad way. It's only now that his identity has been revealed that I realise it was Rob Berry who later died in hospital.
You, sir, are the full and complete definition of a hero. As a fellow runner that day I salute you and it was an honour to be in the same race in which you made the ultimate sacrifice to do good for others.
RIP Rob Berry
Mr Berry's justgiving pageI was doing well up to that point - my split times through to 25K were all on target, in fact between 20 and 25K was my quickest by around 30 seconds.
What got me through it were 3 things. Firstly the number of people who have donated to the charity, secondly knowing that my friends were there to support me. Last but not least the wonderful London crowd who kept on encouraging me to the end. Thanks to all of you.
The most important thing is I made £3000 for my charity. Roll on next year and I'll be training better at get back to around 4 hours. Ballot opens Tuesday!
One dark side to the whole day though. As I was walking down Birdcage Walk on the way to the finish I had to stop for a stretcher wheeling someone across who looked in a bad way. It's only now that his identity has been revealed that I realise it was Rob Berry who later died in hospital.
You, sir, are the full and complete definition of a hero. As a fellow runner that day I salute you and it was an honour to be in the same race in which you made the ultimate sacrifice to do good for others.
RIP Rob Berry
http://www.justgiving.com/Rob-Berry-uk
Like the young girl that died a couple years back. That current target restores some faith in humanity
As for your race. Hey, you still finished. And there's always another marathon to get a PB on.
okgo said:
lukefreeman said:
Completely and utterly f
ked it. Went through 1/2 feeling fine, got to 18 on pace for a 3:05-3:10 which felt fine and bam, left leg just siezed and went down. I thought my fuelling strategy was good enough, but apparently not. Was going to drop out, but my parents were there so didn't....walked/jogged the rest.
1st half @ 1:32, 2nd half in 2:16! Absolute failure, and I was in tears.
Never encountered cramp like that. Had an massage today, and atruggling walking down stairs.
Heart rate was a steady 170 as well, and first 18 felt so comfortable, so don't think it's lactic acid build yp
Why would you not take on fuel? Body out of fuel after likely 1.30-1.45 then running on nothing...or were you joking when you said no gels etc?ked it. Went through 1/2 feeling fine, got to 18 on pace for a 3:05-3:10 which felt fine and bam, left leg just siezed and went down. I thought my fuelling strategy was good enough, but apparently not. Was going to drop out, but my parents were there so didn't....walked/jogged the rest.1st half @ 1:32, 2nd half in 2:16! Absolute failure, and I was in tears.
Never encountered cramp like that. Had an massage today, and atruggling walking down stairs.
Heart rate was a steady 170 as well, and first 18 felt so comfortable, so don't think it's lactic acid build yp
I wasn't carrying gels, just grab them on route at mile 14/21.5. Drinking loads of lucozade throughout, probs, 800ml per hour.
Grabbed gels at 14, and had one at 14,16,18 with a view of having one at 20, and grabbing 2 more at 21.5 to have at 22 and 24.
Still confused by whole event really, heart rate was at 170, felt so comfortable, carb loaded properly, and then at 18, I've got the worst cramp in my left quad ever. 3 days later, my legs still a mess. (kinda like if you've not swam for a while, and go for a swim, and your chest kills, as you've not worked that muscle group in ages.)
Can only think it was my flats. I got 30 miles in them building up to marathon, but I over pronate quite a bit. Maybe the change in gait started working my quads more.........
Answer me this:
Just about all of the male and female elite runners were black, then when they had gone through (at frankly eye watering pace) there probably wasn't a coach load of black faces in the rest of the field. Why is this?
I noticed there were a lot of gingers in the fast clubs runners.
Just about all of the male and female elite runners were black, then when they had gone through (at frankly eye watering pace) there probably wasn't a coach load of black faces in the rest of the field. Why is this?
I noticed there were a lot of gingers in the fast clubs runners.
Willy Nilly said:
Answer me this:
Just about all of the male and female elite runners were black, then when they had gone through (at frankly eye watering pace) there probably wasn't a coach load of black faces in the rest of the field. Why is this?
I noticed there were a lot of gingers in the fast clubs runners.
Because it's not about them being black, it's about them living and training at altitude in Kenya and Ethiopia. The best are paid to appear in London.Just about all of the male and female elite runners were black, then when they had gone through (at frankly eye watering pace) there probably wasn't a coach load of black faces in the rest of the field. Why is this?
I noticed there were a lot of gingers in the fast clubs runners.
Rich_W said:
Willy Nilly said:
But there's loads of black people in London yet hardly any black people ran the London Marathon save for the elite runners.
erm.Have you got any stats on the "masses" to back that up?
BTW Not all the Elites were black either
A friend (Jamaican background, club runner) and I were discussing this recently and he came to the conclusion that many of his friends and family thought of recreational running as a "white thing". I live in multi-cultural Birmingham and our local Parkrun with over 500 regular runners is predominantly frequented by people of a caucasian background, followed by 3-4 runners of an Asian background and 3-4 runners of a Far Eastern background (myself included).
This blog from some time last year talks about the subject a bit further where the writer thinks it's like where female participation in running was a few decades ago.
This blog from some time last year talks about the subject a bit further where the writer thinks it's like where female participation in running was a few decades ago.
Maybe it's the difference between recreational and 'real' running, but there's no shortage of black runners at shorter distances, if the GB team was white only we'd be stuffed at the Olympics.
At marathon distance I guess what ewan says is part of the answer, it's the East Africans who excel at distance, Caribbeans who are mostly of West African origin are sprinters and UK has mainly Caribbean people.
It's been mentioned on the parkrun podcast by a black London runner and an Asian Leeds woman that 'their' people are noticeable by their absence - because parkrun is mostly advertised by word of mouth there's a tendency that your friends/relations are the same ethnicity as you so they are the ones who get invited.
I have looked round at our parkrun, although the majority are white there is a scattering of others, but the population is mostly white so maybe it's in proportion?
At marathon distance I guess what ewan says is part of the answer, it's the East Africans who excel at distance, Caribbeans who are mostly of West African origin are sprinters and UK has mainly Caribbean people.
It's been mentioned on the parkrun podcast by a black London runner and an Asian Leeds woman that 'their' people are noticeable by their absence - because parkrun is mostly advertised by word of mouth there's a tendency that your friends/relations are the same ethnicity as you so they are the ones who get invited.
I have looked round at our parkrun, although the majority are white there is a scattering of others, but the population is mostly white so maybe it's in proportion?
Willy Nilly said:
But there's loads of black people in London yet hardly any black people ran the London Marathon save for the elite runners.
Generally I think most running/cycling/tennis/rowing clubs are mostly white dominated, probably a class thing I guess?You don't think they had someone throwing black peoples entries in a bin do you?
Maybe cultural rather than "class" (whatever that means). I've been a member of several athletics clubs; the sprints have been black dominated (West African/Caribbean heritage) and the distance events white dominated at a domestic level.
There are a few East Africans in the distance ranks (Sameter Farah for example - no relation to Mo apparently) but not in significant numbers
If your peers don't run then it's less likely you'll run. If there's no culture of running in your local community then you're less likely to run.
There are a few East Africans in the distance ranks (Sameter Farah for example - no relation to Mo apparently) but not in significant numbers
If your peers don't run then it's less likely you'll run. If there's no culture of running in your local community then you're less likely to run.
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