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as often happens,potless time waster bids then backs out instantly after not expecting to win !!! Don't slag me off on here , just call me 07850 304332 got fed up of dreamers with very uninteresting px offers so thought I would try PH the last two sold on here to proper enthusiasts who knew they were getting proper cars ,
Well I've had to put the Tuscan idea on hold, accepted a new job yesterday which means being at my desk for 6:30 every morning, given the time and the fact I'll have to drive to the station I don't think a TVR would make a good station car (and drive the neighbors crazy with the noise at 5:30 each morning).
Think I'm going to stick with the 540i for now and consider a large moped for commuting duties when I'm past probation and then scratch the TVR itch with a better condition one at bonus time.
Thanks for the help all regardless
Think I'm going to stick with the 540i for now and consider a large moped for commuting duties when I'm past probation and then scratch the TVR itch with a better condition one at bonus time.
Thanks for the help all regardless
I bought a Tuscan for 11k and all I can say is if you pay that little be prepared for Armageddon.
Here is a list of what I have had to replace and repair
Gearbox Replaced - 5th gear crunched badly
Bell housing - a bolt that was too big had been forced in and put 8 inch split in it, also holes had been drilled into it with a hole saw to get access to tighten the clutch bolts by the looks of it as these were all rounded out.
Clutch - Was dragging very badly because the retaining clips were missing and the diaphragm spring was heavily worn.
Both engine mounts - Engine had been fitted with one mount on the wrong side of the engine bracket causing the engine to sit at an angle and gearbox so the gear leaver was fouling on the fiberglass body making it very difficult to get 1st and 2nd gear
Gearbox mounts - These had been destroyed due to the engine not sitting straight and causing them to twist badly.
Bolts for Front anti roll bar brackets - these had been threaded and could not be tightened.
Steering Rack Gators - Both had split
Lamda Sensors - These had been welded to the manifold as the manifold was for the 3 wire sensors which are M12 as opposed to the M18 for the 4 wire which is what the car had.
Shocks and springs - the front shocks were not even for a tuscan
Front Wishbones Upper and Lower - The bottom ones were bent from over tightening the lower shock mounting bolt as they were far too skinny.
Brake Disks and pads - due to heavy scoring
All suspension Bushes
Front ball joints.
Blower for the heater - This was not even in the car
Carpets - these were stinking due to water ingress where someone had decided to screw down the edges of the scuttle panel and put two holes straight into the cabin causing water ingress.
Window encoders - as it was impossible to get them to close when locking the car
Felt for the window runners - These had perished and the windows were sticking
Door Seals
Repair to driver seat bolster as this had collapsed.
Accelerator cable - This had been installed so badly the throttle peddle would stick
Pedal Box rear bar - as this had been bent somehow.
Oil hoses - these were leaking
Engine - Big end failure after 50 miles due to blocked oil gallery from previous owner not cleaning out the heat exchanger and oil tank of shrapnel from previous engine failure, when they replaced the engine.
Engine Number 2 - Burnt valve or seat on cylinder 6, failed injector on cylinder 5
Air Box Repair - Bottom part of air box had a hole where the rear mount was. Repair and reinforcement of catch nearest the engine as this had split the top part of the air box, Repair to crack on inlet for cylinder 5 and 6.
Cats - These were actually hollow as in nothing inside them.
Repair Door cards - They had been pulled out with out unbolting them at the bottom and then had been glued back in with silicone.
Bottom Door Drains - Blocked and causing water to ingress into the car
Passenger Door Solenoid
Passenger Seat Belt - Ratchet was locking on
Side Lights - Both broken lens covers just fell off when touched
Passenger Wing Indicator - Connector had been broken
Rear Screen Catches - These were two bent pieces of metal that had been screwed to the body and scratched the rear screen
Boot Lid Seal - this was knackered
Boot Lid Hinge - Screw on Bobbin was too long so was fouling the mechanism causing the boot lid to sit at an angle when closed.
Pod Repair - working intermittently due to corroded connectors at the back (that is how long the car had bee filling up with water - it had its own weather system inside)
Suspension Geometry Front - Both front wheels were running maximum positive camber and toeing out - it was impossible to drive in a straight line
Rear Suspension Geometry - Impossible to accelerate as they were set at maximum positive camber giving no contact area with the road.
Rear Spider Alloy Bent.
Exhausts - Both rear boxes were leaking badly, Joint between cats and manifold leaking causing cabin to fill with fumes, Cats to rear section leaking due to some crap clamps.
Battery cable - 2 cm section of insulation was missing and only mm away from touching the chassis.
Battery Box - No splash panel and battery only being held in place by the power cables as no retaining bolt had been used.
Heat Shielding for battery box - there was none so the battery was directly exposed to the manifolds.
Hole in Passenger side floor - where someone had gone off road and the bolt that holds the body on there had been bent causing the fiberglass to break.
Starter motor cable - wrong size cable and wrong size lugs, bolts rounded out.
Wiring Loom - 6th injector had no retaining clip so plug would not stay on. Crank Sensor cable damaged, oil pressure sender cable damaged.
Fuel Lines from bulkhead - they were burnt, brittle and had been repaired just by using a bit of rubber fuel hose and clips - no barbs had been used or inserts to support the original fuel line - This was on the high pressure line.
MAF Sensor - was not connected
Prop shaft bolts - these had been rounded off due to incorrect tool size as they are imperial 9/16 and a 15mm spanner was obviously used
Honestly list goes on and on - I just can't type anymore as it is far too depressing, the cost has been ridiculous and the car is still not road worthy.
Here is a list of what I have had to replace and repair
Gearbox Replaced - 5th gear crunched badly
Bell housing - a bolt that was too big had been forced in and put 8 inch split in it, also holes had been drilled into it with a hole saw to get access to tighten the clutch bolts by the looks of it as these were all rounded out.
Clutch - Was dragging very badly because the retaining clips were missing and the diaphragm spring was heavily worn.
Both engine mounts - Engine had been fitted with one mount on the wrong side of the engine bracket causing the engine to sit at an angle and gearbox so the gear leaver was fouling on the fiberglass body making it very difficult to get 1st and 2nd gear
Gearbox mounts - These had been destroyed due to the engine not sitting straight and causing them to twist badly.
Bolts for Front anti roll bar brackets - these had been threaded and could not be tightened.
Steering Rack Gators - Both had split
Lamda Sensors - These had been welded to the manifold as the manifold was for the 3 wire sensors which are M12 as opposed to the M18 for the 4 wire which is what the car had.
Shocks and springs - the front shocks were not even for a tuscan
Front Wishbones Upper and Lower - The bottom ones were bent from over tightening the lower shock mounting bolt as they were far too skinny.
Brake Disks and pads - due to heavy scoring
All suspension Bushes
Front ball joints.
Blower for the heater - This was not even in the car
Carpets - these were stinking due to water ingress where someone had decided to screw down the edges of the scuttle panel and put two holes straight into the cabin causing water ingress.
Window encoders - as it was impossible to get them to close when locking the car
Felt for the window runners - These had perished and the windows were sticking
Door Seals
Repair to driver seat bolster as this had collapsed.
Accelerator cable - This had been installed so badly the throttle peddle would stick
Pedal Box rear bar - as this had been bent somehow.
Oil hoses - these were leaking
Engine - Big end failure after 50 miles due to blocked oil gallery from previous owner not cleaning out the heat exchanger and oil tank of shrapnel from previous engine failure, when they replaced the engine.
Engine Number 2 - Burnt valve or seat on cylinder 6, failed injector on cylinder 5
Air Box Repair - Bottom part of air box had a hole where the rear mount was. Repair and reinforcement of catch nearest the engine as this had split the top part of the air box, Repair to crack on inlet for cylinder 5 and 6.
Cats - These were actually hollow as in nothing inside them.
Repair Door cards - They had been pulled out with out unbolting them at the bottom and then had been glued back in with silicone.
Bottom Door Drains - Blocked and causing water to ingress into the car
Passenger Door Solenoid
Passenger Seat Belt - Ratchet was locking on
Side Lights - Both broken lens covers just fell off when touched
Passenger Wing Indicator - Connector had been broken
Rear Screen Catches - These were two bent pieces of metal that had been screwed to the body and scratched the rear screen
Boot Lid Seal - this was knackered
Boot Lid Hinge - Screw on Bobbin was too long so was fouling the mechanism causing the boot lid to sit at an angle when closed.
Pod Repair - working intermittently due to corroded connectors at the back (that is how long the car had bee filling up with water - it had its own weather system inside)
Suspension Geometry Front - Both front wheels were running maximum positive camber and toeing out - it was impossible to drive in a straight line
Rear Suspension Geometry - Impossible to accelerate as they were set at maximum positive camber giving no contact area with the road.
Rear Spider Alloy Bent.
Exhausts - Both rear boxes were leaking badly, Joint between cats and manifold leaking causing cabin to fill with fumes, Cats to rear section leaking due to some crap clamps.
Battery cable - 2 cm section of insulation was missing and only mm away from touching the chassis.
Battery Box - No splash panel and battery only being held in place by the power cables as no retaining bolt had been used.
Heat Shielding for battery box - there was none so the battery was directly exposed to the manifolds.
Hole in Passenger side floor - where someone had gone off road and the bolt that holds the body on there had been bent causing the fiberglass to break.
Starter motor cable - wrong size cable and wrong size lugs, bolts rounded out.
Wiring Loom - 6th injector had no retaining clip so plug would not stay on. Crank Sensor cable damaged, oil pressure sender cable damaged.
Fuel Lines from bulkhead - they were burnt, brittle and had been repaired just by using a bit of rubber fuel hose and clips - no barbs had been used or inserts to support the original fuel line - This was on the high pressure line.
MAF Sensor - was not connected
Prop shaft bolts - these had been rounded off due to incorrect tool size as they are imperial 9/16 and a 15mm spanner was obviously used
Honestly list goes on and on - I just can't type anymore as it is far too depressing, the cost has been ridiculous and the car is still not road worthy.
It is ridiculous to be honest - I guarantee it was the worst Tuscan on the road bar none and challenge anyone to show me another Tuscan that had more issues.
To further paint a picture of the previous owner - his solution to the water ingress in the cabin was to drill holes in the floor - I s
t you not. Why would you do that and not just take out the plastic plugs that are in the floor if you are going to be a total bandit
A breaker would not have touched the car because there was nothing on it that could be sold.
Gear Stick fouling on fiberglass body due to engine mounting bracket being installed on wrong side of mount.
The engine mount in question
Passenger Floor Damage
Bell Housing Split
Welded on O2 Sensors
Incorrect shocks fitted
Oil hose being cut through by steering column
4.0 engine bought from breaker - Was done over as water ingress had rusted the liners in cylinders 3 and 4 - I actually have 3 engines at the moment of which none work.
To further paint a picture of the previous owner - his solution to the water ingress in the cabin was to drill holes in the floor - I s
t you not. Why would you do that and not just take out the plastic plugs that are in the floor if you are going to be a total bandit A breaker would not have touched the car because there was nothing on it that could be sold.
Gear Stick fouling on fiberglass body due to engine mounting bracket being installed on wrong side of mount.
The engine mount in question
Passenger Floor Damage
Bell Housing Split
Welded on O2 Sensors
Incorrect shocks fitted
Oil hose being cut through by steering column
4.0 engine bought from breaker - Was done over as water ingress had rusted the liners in cylinders 3 and 4 - I actually have 3 engines at the moment of which none work.
First 4.0 engine - the original one that was in the car and the big end has gone.
Second 4.0 engine - rusted liners plus a couple of cylinders are out of round and valve guides warn, I had planned to rebuild this engine while engine 1 was in the car but that self destructed before I had a chance so I purchased engine 3 so I could use the car.
Third 4.0 engine - Fitted today and discovered an exhaust valve in cylinder 6 is either burnt or valve seat burnt.
Between the three of them I can get something working, but I am just frustrated after only covering 50 miles in the car having owned it 6 months! It is going to be a while before she is back on the road.
Second 4.0 engine - rusted liners plus a couple of cylinders are out of round and valve guides warn, I had planned to rebuild this engine while engine 1 was in the car but that self destructed before I had a chance so I purchased engine 3 so I could use the car.
Third 4.0 engine - Fitted today and discovered an exhaust valve in cylinder 6 is either burnt or valve seat burnt.
Between the three of them I can get something working, but I am just frustrated after only covering 50 miles in the car having owned it 6 months! It is going to be a while before she is back on the road.
ChrisTuscan said:
First 4.0 engine - the original one that was in the car and the big end has gone.
Second 4.0 engine - rusted liners plus a couple of cylinders are out of round and valve guides warn, I had planned to rebuild this engine while engine 1 was in the car but that self destructed before I had a chance so I purchased engine 3 so I could use the car.
Third 4.0 engine - Fitted today and discovered an exhaust valve in cylinder 6 is either burnt or valve seat burnt.
Between the three of them I can get something working, but I am just frustrated after only covering 50 miles in the car having owned it 6 months! It is going to be a while before she is back on the road.
If it's any consolation in the process of stripping and rebuilding my engine I found the block was cracked. I also had to remedy a whole bunch of issues on my car which had tons of bills. Second 4.0 engine - rusted liners plus a couple of cylinders are out of round and valve guides warn, I had planned to rebuild this engine while engine 1 was in the car but that self destructed before I had a chance so I purchased engine 3 so I could use the car.
Third 4.0 engine - Fitted today and discovered an exhaust valve in cylinder 6 is either burnt or valve seat burnt.
Between the three of them I can get something working, but I am just frustrated after only covering 50 miles in the car having owned it 6 months! It is going to be a while before she is back on the road.
So I see this is back up on eBay, best not get your mate to bid on it this time, or set a reserve so he doesn't had to.
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/231214883923
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/231214883923
Hi Dave
Some constructive criticism from someone who is window shopping for Tuscans (sadly won't be in a position to buy until next year) and who has sold several cars of late.
No 1 - Please get yourself some more photos. The current pics and background I think make the car look more suspect than it is.
No 2 - Please divide up the description and use line breaks, paragraphs, etc... - will make the information much easier to digest.
Unfortunately I don't know how much you expect to get from the car, but I have seen plenty of NON-CAT Tuscans going for around 13,500-14,500 and I see at this price bracket a CAT C is generally worth a few K less - a hard pill to swallow, I know, but that seems to be the way.
Also, it might just be me, but the car being resprayed in white doesn't really do much for me - I think seeing the advert the first time I got the sneaky suspicion it was resprayed in a non-reflex colour because the reflex colour is very, very expensive to do...
Just my thoughts, hopefully some new piccies and a better wording might get you a better sale price (Coming from someone who has sold four cars in the last year, each sold to first viewer for exactly what I was asking)
Some constructive criticism from someone who is window shopping for Tuscans (sadly won't be in a position to buy until next year) and who has sold several cars of late.
No 1 - Please get yourself some more photos. The current pics and background I think make the car look more suspect than it is.
No 2 - Please divide up the description and use line breaks, paragraphs, etc... - will make the information much easier to digest.
Unfortunately I don't know how much you expect to get from the car, but I have seen plenty of NON-CAT Tuscans going for around 13,500-14,500 and I see at this price bracket a CAT C is generally worth a few K less - a hard pill to swallow, I know, but that seems to be the way.
Also, it might just be me, but the car being resprayed in white doesn't really do much for me - I think seeing the advert the first time I got the sneaky suspicion it was resprayed in a non-reflex colour because the reflex colour is very, very expensive to do...
Just my thoughts, hopefully some new piccies and a better wording might get you a better sale price (Coming from someone who has sold four cars in the last year, each sold to first viewer for exactly what I was asking)
took some nice pics of car at Burghley but can.t get them onto my PH ad. re wording just trying to give honest overview of car and its genuine history but admit I probably could do better had loads of offers re px but nothing interesting or sensible enough to warrant parting with Tuscan The pearl paint was not cheap but not as expensive as oe paint
You should be able to get pictures up onto PH, even after the fact. IT isn't easy, but it can be done.
Also with your eBay ad, the ad text is fundamentally OK but I would suggest a bit of a tidy up grammatically. I find massive blocks of text a big turn off.
Sadly I don't think white paint ever photographs well, plus on a Tuscan I think it is a real marmite colour. I'm not sure eBay is ever going to get you the money that you want on this one.
Also with your eBay ad, the ad text is fundamentally OK but I would suggest a bit of a tidy up grammatically. I find massive blocks of text a big turn off.
Sadly I don't think white paint ever photographs well, plus on a Tuscan I think it is a real marmite colour. I'm not sure eBay is ever going to get you the money that you want on this one.
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