My Sinnis Apache..
Discussion
Right.. this is a bad idea but some people are actually interested in it so f
k it. Thought I'd follow the format of the bike pool thread because that will probably answer most questions people have.
First of all for Scott are pictures.
Why I bought it:
I knew of them for a while after someone I know bought one, he never had a problem with it the whole time he had it until he got his proper license (3 Years) so that made me look at them. I was also watching a guy called Spicy110 on youtube who had a Pulse Adrenaline for 5 years before crashing it and buying a Sinnis Apache. I recommend watching his Sinnis Apache Review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrK8hmzpe6Y
These are decent bikes and the quality of chinese bikes really are improving.
The reason I bought this actual one is because I was going to buy a brand new one but decided against it to save a bit of money to put aside for a car eventually. I saw this for sale on a 62 plate with 6600 miles quite local in North London with the extras of a DEP exhaust (DEP make them for this bike, it's not a bodge job) handguards and renthal bars which I would of bought anyway so it kept the costs down as the DEP can is £200 alone. It has FSH up until late last year just to keep within the warranty, came with all the receipts of purchase and work done, the stamped service book and a user manual for the bike too. As well as a tool kit which is handy! It came from a nice mid 20's guy (Who was chatting up my mum while I was test riding it!) who had just passed his big bike test and had a loovely looking GIXXAH next to this so it isn't from a teenager. Which is good. I would hate to buy a bike from me.
Things I like:
- The sound
- The looks, I think it is quite good looking to be honest.
- The amount of miles I can get from one tank
- How cheap it is to fill (£7-8!)
- Can get 70mph eventually but it's revving a lot, a tooth up on the front sprocket is a popular thing to do so I might do that
- Fun to ride
- You can get every single part on the bike brand new from one website, and they have engine and wiring diagrams
-Easy to service
Things I dislike:
- It's chinese so relentless piss taking
- The downpipe is made of steel but you can get the standard downpipe in stainless for £40
- The standard front tyre
- The stickers and decals
- fking monster stickers
Plans:
1 tooth up on the front sprocket
Contitwist on the front to match the rear
Stainless Steel downpipe to replace the rusted one
Take all stickers off
Keep it clean and maintained
If anyone has any questions about it please do ask them but if you're just going to slag it off, please just don't bother. I've heard it all already and I've only had it a couple of days.
k it. Thought I'd follow the format of the bike pool thread because that will probably answer most questions people have. First of all for Scott are pictures.
Why I bought it:
I knew of them for a while after someone I know bought one, he never had a problem with it the whole time he had it until he got his proper license (3 Years) so that made me look at them. I was also watching a guy called Spicy110 on youtube who had a Pulse Adrenaline for 5 years before crashing it and buying a Sinnis Apache. I recommend watching his Sinnis Apache Review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrK8hmzpe6Y
These are decent bikes and the quality of chinese bikes really are improving.
The reason I bought this actual one is because I was going to buy a brand new one but decided against it to save a bit of money to put aside for a car eventually. I saw this for sale on a 62 plate with 6600 miles quite local in North London with the extras of a DEP exhaust (DEP make them for this bike, it's not a bodge job) handguards and renthal bars which I would of bought anyway so it kept the costs down as the DEP can is £200 alone. It has FSH up until late last year just to keep within the warranty, came with all the receipts of purchase and work done, the stamped service book and a user manual for the bike too. As well as a tool kit which is handy! It came from a nice mid 20's guy (Who was chatting up my mum while I was test riding it!) who had just passed his big bike test and had a loovely looking GIXXAH next to this so it isn't from a teenager. Which is good. I would hate to buy a bike from me.
Things I like:
- The sound
- The looks, I think it is quite good looking to be honest.
- The amount of miles I can get from one tank
- How cheap it is to fill (£7-8!)
- Can get 70mph eventually but it's revving a lot, a tooth up on the front sprocket is a popular thing to do so I might do that
- Fun to ride
- You can get every single part on the bike brand new from one website, and they have engine and wiring diagrams
-Easy to service
Things I dislike:
- It's chinese so relentless piss taking
- The downpipe is made of steel but you can get the standard downpipe in stainless for £40
- The standard front tyre
- The stickers and decals
- f
king monster stickersPlans:
1 tooth up on the front sprocket
Contitwist on the front to match the rear
Stainless Steel downpipe to replace the rusted one
Take all stickers off
Keep it clean and maintained
If anyone has any questions about it please do ask them but if you're just going to slag it off, please just don't bother. I've heard it all already and I've only had it a couple of days.
Nice one Liam,
It's a tidy looking thing and hopefully this one will keep you mobile longer than the others!!
Agree in the tyre change but as for gearing, work out the final drive ratio. If it's 3:1 then 1 tooth on the front is equivalent to 3 on the back, so going 2 up on the rear might give a better overall ratio than 1 on the front. But it gives you some options to consider.
As for the exhaust, maybe look at getting the current item media blasted and use high temp paint for now. If the SS header is made by DEP then fair enough, but chinese stainless might not be so good.
Anyway, enjoy and ride safe.
It's a tidy looking thing and hopefully this one will keep you mobile longer than the others!!
Agree in the tyre change but as for gearing, work out the final drive ratio. If it's 3:1 then 1 tooth on the front is equivalent to 3 on the back, so going 2 up on the rear might give a better overall ratio than 1 on the front. But it gives you some options to consider.
As for the exhaust, maybe look at getting the current item media blasted and use high temp paint for now. If the SS header is made by DEP then fair enough, but chinese stainless might not be so good.
Anyway, enjoy and ride safe.
Cheers guys. I hope it lasts, and obviously I would be lying if I said I wasn't worried about it just melting and rusting away as I used to take the piss out of chinese bikes and even did out of my mates when he got it but as I said I wouldn't of bought it if I thought it would. I've done A LOT of reading on them on so many forums. There is a review on the Apache in an MCN magazine that is in a PDF on the internet somewhere. I'll find it if people want to see that.
The downpipe isn't a DEP it is just the standard one, DEP do one but it makes the bike sound horrible, that spicy110 had one and didn't like it. The stainless one lasts snd they come standard on brand new ones now, I've seen a Sinnis that had a stainless one for 2 years and it was fine apart from a few black marks by the exhaust hole.
I got a st video of it after I realised it spits flame if you go to the limiter (Only did it a few times before it got boring.. barely go near the limiter normally) I'll get a better video soon. It pops and bangs a lot and as immature as it is I blip on the downshift just to hear it pop.
Hopefully this link works http://web.stagram.com/p/690027747622970648_366237...
castex said:
Won't higher gearing take a lot of the fun out of it?
I don't think so. It will just make the gears a bit longer so it's not as higher revving at top speed.bass gt3 said:
Nice one Liam,
It's a tidy looking thing and hopefully this one will keep you mobile longer than the others!!
Agree in the tyre change but as for gearing, work out the final drive ratio. If it's 3:1 then 1 tooth on the front is equivalent to 3 on the back, so going 2 up on the rear might give a better overall ratio than 1 on the front. But it gives you some options to consider.
As for the exhaust, maybe look at getting the current item media blasted and use high temp paint for now. If the SS header is made by DEP then fair enough, but chinese stainless might not be so good.
Anyway, enjoy and ride safe.
Ratios.. I was never good at maths. Let alone ratios! It has a 16t front sprocket on at the minute and a lot of people change it to the 17t and say it improves it so I'm pretty sure they have that all worked out.It's a tidy looking thing and hopefully this one will keep you mobile longer than the others!!
Agree in the tyre change but as for gearing, work out the final drive ratio. If it's 3:1 then 1 tooth on the front is equivalent to 3 on the back, so going 2 up on the rear might give a better overall ratio than 1 on the front. But it gives you some options to consider.
As for the exhaust, maybe look at getting the current item media blasted and use high temp paint for now. If the SS header is made by DEP then fair enough, but chinese stainless might not be so good.
Anyway, enjoy and ride safe.
The downpipe isn't a DEP it is just the standard one, DEP do one but it makes the bike sound horrible, that spicy110 had one and didn't like it. The stainless one lasts snd they come standard on brand new ones now, I've seen a Sinnis that had a stainless one for 2 years and it was fine apart from a few black marks by the exhaust hole.
Deranged Granny said:
That looks nice mate, hope it stays in good working order! Hope you enjoy it. Does it sound good with that can?
Cheers mate, I love the sound. I know most people hate the sound of 4 stroke 125's with aftermarket exhausts but I love it, sounds like a mini 400 I got a s
t video of it after I realised it spits flame if you go to the limiter (Only did it a few times before it got boring.. barely go near the limiter normally) I'll get a better video soon. It pops and bangs a lot and as immature as it is I blip on the downshift just to hear it pop. Hopefully this link works http://web.stagram.com/p/690027747622970648_366237...
Edited by LiamB on Tuesday 8th April 00:55
I'd never heard of them before you mentioned it in the other thread. I even watched that guys vlog! After that I discovered they do a 250 version of yours for £2K..That got me thinking seriously about one as a commuter. I think they are great as long as you keep up the 6 month servives. Nice bike Liam 
Looks nice. Lot of bike for the cash if it's well enough put together. Perfect bike to learn to wheelie on too.
On those sort of bikes, you ride on the front end with the weight forward, so I'd want to get a decent front tyre ASAP.
What are the brakes like (spongey, budget feeling, or up to the job)? Will it stoppie?
On those sort of bikes, you ride on the front end with the weight forward, so I'd want to get a decent front tyre ASAP.
What are the brakes like (spongey, budget feeling, or up to the job)? Will it stoppie?
Liam
Congrats on getting a much newer and hopefully more reliable bike. One point borne out of years and years of experience. Learners tend to thrash small bikes so maintenance is everything.
1] Frequent oil changes are a must. Oil is cheap rebuilds are not.
2] Adjust the chain frequently as if it is allowed to run too loose it kills the sprockets
3] If you clean it using water then make certain that it is fully dry and apply a good coat of WD40 or ACF50 or similar.
4] Touch in any paint chips on the frame or painted surfaces as these will rust quickly
Look after it and it will certainly look after you.
Congrats on getting a much newer and hopefully more reliable bike. One point borne out of years and years of experience. Learners tend to thrash small bikes so maintenance is everything.
1] Frequent oil changes are a must. Oil is cheap rebuilds are not.
2] Adjust the chain frequently as if it is allowed to run too loose it kills the sprockets
3] If you clean it using water then make certain that it is fully dry and apply a good coat of WD40 or ACF50 or similar.
4] Touch in any paint chips on the frame or painted surfaces as these will rust quickly
Look after it and it will certainly look after you.
LiamB said:
I was also watching a guy called Spicy110 on youtube who had a Pulse Adrenaline for 5 years before crashing it and buying a Sinnis Apache. I recommend watching his Sinnis Apache Review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrK8hmzpe6Y
I had to stop watching that, I just couldn't take the constant sniffing. Spicy110 needs to learn how to blow his nose 
Mr2Mike said:
LiamB said:
I was also watching a guy called Spicy110 on youtube who had a Pulse Adrenaline for 5 years before crashing it and buying a Sinnis Apache. I recommend watching his Sinnis Apache Review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrK8hmzpe6Y
I had to stop watching that, I just couldn't take the constant sniffing. Spicy110 needs to learn how to blow his nose Thanks for the good comments. Which I wasn't expecting.
Right, bit of a long post to answer questions!
Yeah that's why I want to replace it soon, in the dry I will throw it into corners all day long and not worry. But it's when it starts to get wet that the performance of the tyre just starts to suck and I lose all confidence in it.
The brakes are excellent. Braided lines and wavy discs as standard, the rear isn't just like an on or off, it has quite a bit of feeling before it locks up so it's good for traffic. The front is very good, it will get on it's nose very easily but it can be a bit too much even with the slightest pull on the lever, but I suppose that is better than not stopping at all.
1. It will be being serviced regularly. You can buy service kits that come with everything.
2. It has just had a new heavy duty DID chain and sprockets but I always keep an eye on chains anyway
3. I haven't washed it once yet but I will do that
4. and I shall do this too
Hmmm I was going to watch Sniffy110's video while eating lunch in a bit...perhaps I'll not then.I never noticed the sniffing until you pointed it out..
Right, bit of a long post to answer questions!
3DP said:
Looks nice. Lot of bike for the cash if it's well enough put together. Perfect bike to learn to wheelie on too.
On those sort of bikes, you ride on the front end with the weight forward, so I'd want to get a decent front tyre ASAP.
What are the brakes like (spongey, budget feeling, or up to the job)? Will it stoppie?
On those sort of bikes, you ride on the front end with the weight forward, so I'd want to get a decent front tyre ASAP.
What are the brakes like (spongey, budget feeling, or up to the job)? Will it stoppie?
Yeah that's why I want to replace it soon, in the dry I will throw it into corners all day long and not worry. But it's when it starts to get wet that the performance of the tyre just starts to suck and I lose all confidence in it.
The brakes are excellent. Braided lines and wavy discs as standard, the rear isn't just like an on or off, it has quite a bit of feeling before it locks up so it's good for traffic. The front is very good, it will get on it's nose very easily but it can be a bit too much even with the slightest pull on the lever, but I suppose that is better than not stopping at all.
Chipchap said:
Liam
Congrats on getting a much newer and hopefully more reliable bike. One point borne out of years and years of experience. Learners tend to thrash small bikes so maintenance is everything.
1] Frequent oil changes are a must. Oil is cheap rebuilds are not.
2] Adjust the chain frequently as if it is allowed to run too loose it kills the sprockets
3] If you clean it using water then make certain that it is fully dry and apply a good coat of WD40 or ACF50 or similar.
4] Touch in any paint chips on the frame or painted surfaces as these will rust quickly
Look after it and it will certainly look after you.
I agree with all learners thrashing bikes. Bunch of hooligans Congrats on getting a much newer and hopefully more reliable bike. One point borne out of years and years of experience. Learners tend to thrash small bikes so maintenance is everything.
1] Frequent oil changes are a must. Oil is cheap rebuilds are not.
2] Adjust the chain frequently as if it is allowed to run too loose it kills the sprockets
3] If you clean it using water then make certain that it is fully dry and apply a good coat of WD40 or ACF50 or similar.
4] Touch in any paint chips on the frame or painted surfaces as these will rust quickly
Look after it and it will certainly look after you.
1. It will be being serviced regularly. You can buy service kits that come with everything.
2. It has just had a new heavy duty DID chain and sprockets but I always keep an eye on chains anyway
3. I haven't washed it once yet but I will do that
4. and I shall do this too
sprinter1050 said:
Glad to see you got summat newer & (despite all the chinky piss taking) hope it's reliable for you to have fun on. As said, keep on top of it & reports do seem to suggest they hold up if looked after.
Then get a test passed & move off trailey style chavvers onto a proper bike.
Plans are to sell this next year to fund my license and then I don't know what bike.. it will probably be a 400 but I might stick to SM's, they're a lot funner Then get a test passed & move off trailey style chavvers
onto a proper bike.y2blade said:
Mr2Mike said:
LiamB said:
I was also watching a guy called Spicy110 on youtube who had a Pulse Adrenaline for 5 years before crashing it and buying a Sinnis Apache. I recommend watching his Sinnis Apache Review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrK8hmzpe6Y
I had to stop watching that, I just couldn't take the constant sniffing. Spicy110 needs to learn how to blow his nose LiamB said:
Thanks for the good comments. Which I wasn't expecting.
Right, bit of a long post to answer questions!
Yeah that's why I want to replace it soon, in the dry I will throw it into corners all day long and not worry. But it's when it starts to get wet that the performance of the tyre just starts to suck and I lose all confidence in it.
The brakes are excellent. Braided lines and wavy discs as standard, the rear isn't just like an on or off, it has quite a bit of feeling before it locks up so it's good for traffic. The front is very good, it will get on it's nose very easily but it can be a bit too much even with the slightest pull on the lever, but I suppose that is better than not stopping at all.
1. It will be being serviced regularly. You can buy service kits that come with everything.
2. It has just had a new heavy duty DID chain and sprockets but I always keep an eye on chains anyway
3. I haven't washed it once yet but I will do that
4. and I shall do this too
Hmmm I was going to watch Sniffy110's video while eating lunch in a bit...perhaps I'll not then.I never noticed the sniffing until you pointed it out..
Watching Sniffy110's review.... 6 years of riding 125s! why? Right, bit of a long post to answer questions!
3DP said:
Looks nice. Lot of bike for the cash if it's well enough put together. Perfect bike to learn to wheelie on too.
On those sort of bikes, you ride on the front end with the weight forward, so I'd want to get a decent front tyre ASAP.
What are the brakes like (spongey, budget feeling, or up to the job)? Will it stoppie?
On those sort of bikes, you ride on the front end with the weight forward, so I'd want to get a decent front tyre ASAP.
What are the brakes like (spongey, budget feeling, or up to the job)? Will it stoppie?
Yeah that's why I want to replace it soon, in the dry I will throw it into corners all day long and not worry. But it's when it starts to get wet that the performance of the tyre just starts to suck and I lose all confidence in it.
The brakes are excellent. Braided lines and wavy discs as standard, the rear isn't just like an on or off, it has quite a bit of feeling before it locks up so it's good for traffic. The front is very good, it will get on it's nose very easily but it can be a bit too much even with the slightest pull on the lever, but I suppose that is better than not stopping at all.
Chipchap said:
Liam
Congrats on getting a much newer and hopefully more reliable bike. One point borne out of years and years of experience. Learners tend to thrash small bikes so maintenance is everything.
1] Frequent oil changes are a must. Oil is cheap rebuilds are not.
2] Adjust the chain frequently as if it is allowed to run too loose it kills the sprockets
3] If you clean it using water then make certain that it is fully dry and apply a good coat of WD40 or ACF50 or similar.
4] Touch in any paint chips on the frame or painted surfaces as these will rust quickly
Look after it and it will certainly look after you.
I agree with all learners thrashing bikes. Bunch of hooligans Congrats on getting a much newer and hopefully more reliable bike. One point borne out of years and years of experience. Learners tend to thrash small bikes so maintenance is everything.
1] Frequent oil changes are a must. Oil is cheap rebuilds are not.
2] Adjust the chain frequently as if it is allowed to run too loose it kills the sprockets
3] If you clean it using water then make certain that it is fully dry and apply a good coat of WD40 or ACF50 or similar.
4] Touch in any paint chips on the frame or painted surfaces as these will rust quickly
Look after it and it will certainly look after you.
1. It will be being serviced regularly. You can buy service kits that come with everything.
2. It has just had a new heavy duty DID chain and sprockets but I always keep an eye on chains anyway
3. I haven't washed it once yet but I will do that
4. and I shall do this too
sprinter1050 said:
Glad to see you got summat newer & (despite all the chinky piss taking) hope it's reliable for you to have fun on. As said, keep on top of it & reports do seem to suggest they hold up if looked after.
Then get a test passed & move off trailey style chavvers onto a proper bike.
Plans are to sell this next year to fund my license and then I don't know what bike.. it will probably be a 400 but I might stick to SM's, they're a lot funner Then get a test passed & move off trailey style chavvers
onto a proper bike.y2blade said:
Mr2Mike said:
LiamB said:
I was also watching a guy called Spicy110 on youtube who had a Pulse Adrenaline for 5 years before crashing it and buying a Sinnis Apache. I recommend watching his Sinnis Apache Review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrK8hmzpe6Y
I had to stop watching that, I just couldn't take the constant sniffing. Spicy110 needs to learn how to blow his nose graphene said:
LiamB said:
y2blade said:
Watching Sniffy110's review.... 6 years of riding 125s! why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJGI6a-TQdwMoney basically. I would of gone insane.
t 
.Bike looks decent though, he mentions they changed tail light to LED to stop it blowing bulbs yet the sidelight it still a regular one that he said keeps blowing.
Sounds nice and fruity through the DEP.
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