JMG 930 on eBay
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marky911 said:
Great idea John.
Either of these two please, or half for each if you have time.
They both rely massively on public donations.
http://www.greatnorthairambulance.co.uk
http://www.zoes-place.org.uk/middlesbrough/
If you see a "Gift Aid" option click that. For every £10 donated the charity receive £12.50.
Thanks John, very kind.
No problem Marky, consider it done!Either of these two please, or half for each if you have time.
They both rely massively on public donations.
http://www.greatnorthairambulance.co.uk
http://www.zoes-place.org.uk/middlesbrough/
If you see a "Gift Aid" option click that. For every £10 donated the charity receive £12.50.
Thanks John, very kind.
zero corrosion said:
Jaysus madness.
You could get a really nice 911 for that.
Not a fan of the 930, totally over rated shoite to drive and slow.
It would buy a nice 997 or a couple of nice 996, but to be honest, I think most of the air cooled 911's are heading towards that kind of money.You could get a really nice 911 for that.
Not a fan of the 930, totally over rated shoite to drive and slow.
Of about 10 customers I know of who have sold pre 89 air cooled right hand drive Porsche in the last year, 5 have gone overseas to Australia, Japan, Hong Kong, Cyprus and 2 have been bought by someone on behalf of a famous motoring TV presenter who is another customer of ours and hoarding quite a massive collection in containers.. So it is no wonder they are all going up in price. Not to mention the classic car market going bonkers anyway, at a time when suddenly the pre 89 car world has become fashionable to be retro!
This 930 is not the only one I have ever owned, and like many air cooled Porsche, on first impressions if you try to drive fast, they do seem completely horrid to drive and impossible to drive fast... However once you begin to get used to them, they become a challenge to tame like a wild horse, and you learn techniques to get them through corners at serious speed, somewhere along the way they become wonderful to drive as well, not to mention having bags of personality.
Problem is, once you begin to master them, very occasionally they will threaten to kill you in an oops moment, sometimes with no reason other than they are in a bad mood.. Which is why I think they gained the title "Widdow Maker", why people love them, fear them and in my case, why I should no longer own one!
Certainly not slow though, this particular tuned one was limited 0-60 by traction when run at 1.2 Bar of boost, even still 0-60 was somewhere around 4 seconds or less.. But 60-120 came along in a roughly equal amount of time (with the tame trepidation avoiding wheel spin).. Power to weight ratios though, you have to remember these cars are much lighter than even a Boxster and about the same weight as a modern Ford Fiesta.
The real thing I will miss most of all though about this one was the exhaust note.. If you have a 3.0 SC or 3.2 Carrera, forget your SSI exhausts, if you have a 993 forget your RSR exhaust, Fabspeed exhausts like the one this was wearing are simply audible sex! But more than that, they achieve great power improvements and in this cars case, knocked 750rpm off the turbo spool up over the factory system!
Spoke to the new owner today, he is planning on stripping her down to a bare shell, having her dipped and rebuilding her from the ground up.
He also mentioned he had seen the thread here, and hopefully we can convince him to contribute to the forum with its progress in the future.
Anyway.. back to resisting temptation to buy a new toy and reminding myself why she had to go....
Jon
zero corrosion said:
Jaysus madness.
You could get a really nice 911 for that.
Not a fan of the 930, totally over rated shoite to drive and slow.
Yup. You could get a 996 / 997 and wait for its engine to blow up and watch it devalue by the second.You could get a really nice 911 for that.
Not a fan of the 930, totally over rated shoite to drive and slow.
.. or you could get a piece of automotive history that will appreciate and which every person of a certain age will smile at because they had the poster on their bedroom wall as a kid.
You know, each to their own. The world would be very boring if we all liked the same thing but why bother posting that ? If you have nothing interesting to say - and clearly you dont - then dont say it.
Jon. Fair play to you. And i am pissed I didn't buy it when you offered me it.
See you soon
Wow the new owner is pretty serious then, this is what happens when these cars become collectible and get bought by those with serious money. I don't think its possible these days to dip and rebuild a car for less than £15K, Porsche workshop money in the south east especially I bet will be multiples of that.
John, try and talk him out of acid dipping the shell. A hatefull process imo. My mate Loz would do it all by hand for £1400. He stripped my SSE shell back to bare metal by hand and I mean the entire shell. He uses a mixture of specific brushes, thinners, petrol and paint stripper. This way as he says does not hurt the shell.
Owned one years ago and yes it was Red.
Worse 911 i've ever owned, on off power, heavy and to be honest just dull and tiresome after about a week.
Okay in a straight line.
Yeah the 993 Turbo is over rated too and over priced totally agree i wouldn't buy one at todays prices.
Best turbo i've owned is the 996 Turbo hands down in all areas, quicker/better handling/better breaking/cheaper to service provided you look after it, values are low at the moment because like all modern Porsches they built 1000's of them, but like all supercars as the numbers dwindle the prices will rise. Far superior car.
Worse 911 i've ever owned, on off power, heavy and to be honest just dull and tiresome after about a week.
Okay in a straight line.
Yeah the 993 Turbo is over rated too and over priced totally agree i wouldn't buy one at todays prices.
Best turbo i've owned is the 996 Turbo hands down in all areas, quicker/better handling/better breaking/cheaper to service provided you look after it, values are low at the moment because like all modern Porsches they built 1000's of them, but like all supercars as the numbers dwindle the prices will rise. Far superior car.
I always fancied one and 2 years ago wanted a 5 speed, missed out on a couple, at the time.
Since then i have drove one and have to say thank god i did, bloody horrible things.
If old fashioned Porsches are your thing get a nice narrow bodied 3.2c or even an SC save a shed load of money and nail a 930 on the twisties, with the more linear power delivery and crisper sounding non muffled engine. A lot better IMO
Since then i have drove one and have to say thank god i did, bloody horrible things.
If old fashioned Porsches are your thing get a nice narrow bodied 3.2c or even an SC save a shed load of money and nail a 930 on the twisties, with the more linear power delivery and crisper sounding non muffled engine. A lot better IMO
Marmite cars
Had a very low mile 5 speed and made a lot of money on it at the time, it went to Hong Kong.
Don't take on board the performance figures they're fairly quick, but the power they do have is just not a nice delivery and a relatively short power band, most modern performance hatchbacks cars would see one off on a country lane with an average driver in both, if that floats your boat.
I don't like Marmite, but the Yellow and Black jar looks okay.
Each to their own.
Had a very low mile 5 speed and made a lot of money on it at the time, it went to Hong Kong.
Don't take on board the performance figures they're fairly quick, but the power they do have is just not a nice delivery and a relatively short power band, most modern performance hatchbacks cars would see one off on a country lane with an average driver in both, if that floats your boat.
I don't like Marmite, but the Yellow and Black jar looks okay.
Each to their own.
Crimp a Length! said:
Marmite cars
Had a very low mile 5 speed and made a lot of money on it at the time, it went to Hong Kong.
Don't take on board the performance figures they're fairly quick, but the power they do have is just not a nice delivery and a relatively short power band, most modern performance hatchbacks cars would see one off on a country lane with an average driver in both, if that floats your boat.
I don't like Marmite, but the Yellow and Black jar looks okay.
Each to their own.
Luckly there is a Porsche for everybody's taste and pocket so we can all enjoy our choice.Had a very low mile 5 speed and made a lot of money on it at the time, it went to Hong Kong.
Don't take on board the performance figures they're fairly quick, but the power they do have is just not a nice delivery and a relatively short power band, most modern performance hatchbacks cars would see one off on a country lane with an average driver in both, if that floats your boat.
I don't like Marmite, but the Yellow and Black jar looks okay.
Each to their own.
Edited by SEE YA on Thursday 17th April 08:52
NJH said:
Wow the new owner is pretty serious then, this is what happens when these cars become collectible and get bought by those with serious money. I don't think its possible these days to dip and rebuild a car for less than £15K, Porsche workshop money in the south east especially I bet will be multiples of that.
I think you would be looking at £15K for the dip and processing. I think it would be around 400 hours of work to strip and re-build + all the parts + dipping, you would be lucky to get change from £30K to do it properly and probably double that.
add £20k and buy one already done 
....89 5 speed as well
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
....89 5 speed as well http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
There is really no point comparing an old turbo to a 996. They are 30 years old.
I've had my 964 for 11 years and despite all the doom mongers, it hasn't needed vast amounts of money spending to keep it going, quite the opposite in fact.
It looks the dogs danglies, sounds lovely and goes ok considering how old it is.
Oh and its doubled in value since I bought it.
I've had my 964 for 11 years and despite all the doom mongers, it hasn't needed vast amounts of money spending to keep it going, quite the opposite in fact.
It looks the dogs danglies, sounds lovely and goes ok considering how old it is.
Oh and its doubled in value since I bought it.
Legacywr said:
olly22n said:
tr7v8 said:
Gary11 said:
Just a shame it was on the register.
What is on the register?????Advert said:
An insurance company did pay the previous owner for the repairs, however the car was NOT registered as a write-off, as it was a building insurance policy that was claimed on, not a car policy.
Other than that, this car has a very clean history, apart from many years ago when it suffered superficial damage to a front and rear wing (photos available). In this case the owner did not allow the insurance company to repair it, instead having it repaired by a specialist, which did result in a minor mark on its HPI history file.
and clarified further in the questionsOther than that, this car has a very clean history, apart from many years ago when it suffered superficial damage to a front and rear wing (photos available). In this case the owner did not allow the insurance company to repair it, instead having it repaired by a specialist, which did result in a minor mark on its HPI history file.
Advert said:
I have today paid for a new HPI check to be performed on the car, copies of which are available on request to investigate this accident which I have photos of the damage before the repair made over 16 years ago. From the report I can say that the minor accident happened in 1998 and resulted in a D marker being filed with HPI by the insurance comapany at the time. Category D is the least significant marker and usually is the result of a minor accident and the repair being viable but the insruance company for some reason were not allowed to repair it. The previous owner told me that this was because the previous owner to him refusing to let it go to a Direct Line bodyshop for repairs as he wanted to have it repaired by somewhere more experienced.
ChipsAndCheese said:
Legacywr said:
olly22n said:
tr7v8 said:
Gary11 said:
Just a shame it was on the register.
What is on the register?????Advert said:
An insurance company did pay the previous owner for the repairs, however the car was NOT registered as a write-off, as it was a building insurance policy that was claimed on, not a car policy.
Other than that, this car has a very clean history, apart from many years ago when it suffered superficial damage to a front and rear wing (photos available). In this case the owner did not allow the insurance company to repair it, instead having it repaired by a specialist, which did result in a minor mark on its HPI history file.
and clarified further in the questionsOther than that, this car has a very clean history, apart from many years ago when it suffered superficial damage to a front and rear wing (photos available). In this case the owner did not allow the insurance company to repair it, instead having it repaired by a specialist, which did result in a minor mark on its HPI history file.
Advert said:
I have today paid for a new HPI check to be performed on the car, copies of which are available on request to investigate this accident which I have photos of the damage before the repair made over 16 years ago. From the report I can say that the minor accident happened in 1998 and resulted in a D marker being filed with HPI by the insurance comapany at the time. Category D is the least significant marker and usually is the result of a minor accident and the repair being viable but the insruance company for some reason were not allowed to repair it. The previous owner told me that this was because the previous owner to him refusing to let it go to a Direct Line bodyshop for repairs as he wanted to have it repaired by somewhere more experienced.
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