The term "Jap" - an abbreviation or an insult?

The term "Jap" - an abbreviation or an insult?

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sebhaque

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6,404 posts

181 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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Having a social with some visitors from the US, the chat moved onto cars. I mentioned that I drove a Japanese car and "have great respect for the Jap approach to building cars." Said American visitors were taken aback by this comment, saying that the term was as offensive as the derogatory term to describe Pakistanis.

I raise this thread as a point of discussion. I have certainly never thought the term "Jap" was offensive - it's just an abbreviation for Japanese. While I am indeed almost synonymous with the Pakistani slang, I believe that is only a faux pas due to its past usage. Is this why the Japanese term is a no-no in the US? I'm very confused as to why that particular term is a no-no when I've not heard a word against it.

Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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Jap has nothing to do with anyone who isn't from Japan as far as I've ever thought.

The answer OP is 'Yanks are mental'.

Impasse

15,099 posts

241 months

Saturday 12th April 2014
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Brits don't insult anyone.

Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Saturday 12th April 2014
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Impasse said:
Brits don't insult anyone.
I prefer the phrase 'An English gentleman is never unintentionally rude'.

Barryboyni

179 posts

125 months

Saturday 12th April 2014
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If I call British cars Brit cars is it offensive? Jesus Christ. Mary. Joseph. The donkey. A stable. A pile of straw. A manger. A big fk off star. 3 old dudes. How some people survive unaided I will never know.

digger the goat

2,818 posts

145 months

Saturday 12th April 2014
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Don't worry OP.
They also believe that they speak English !!

Legacywr

12,125 posts

188 months

Saturday 12th April 2014
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What about "Jap's eye"?

vsonix

3,858 posts

163 months

Saturday 12th April 2014
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Hooli said:
I prefer the phrase 'An English gentleman is never unintentionally rude'.
I like that.

But I've always found this a bit silly. If a load of people from another country started using 'Brit' in a slightly pejorative way (oh they all smell of marmite) would it really be worth the effort to get worked up over it when other people are simply into brevity?


Impasse

15,099 posts

241 months

Saturday 12th April 2014
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vsonix said:
I like that.

But I've always found this a bit silly. If a load of people from another country started using 'Brit' in a slightly pejorative way (oh they all smell of marmite) would it really be worth the effort to get worked up over it when other people are simply into brevity?
Ros bif.

Steamer

13,857 posts

213 months

Saturday 12th April 2014
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That's a good one..

Reminds me actually, there is a pub in Val Thorens ski resort called 'the frog & roast beef' - nobody bats an eyelid at that.

ClassicMotorNut

2,438 posts

138 months

Saturday 12th April 2014
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Jap

Brit
Turk
Scot
Aussie
Kiwi

They're all abbreviations. You just have to make sure you don't use '' to refer to an Indian or else there'll be hell about it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 12th April 2014
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Like others have said I think it's just an abbreviation like Brit is, I certainly use it that way without malice.

nagsheadwarrior

2,781 posts

179 months

Saturday 12th April 2014
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ClassicMotorNut said:
Jap

Brit
Turk
Scot
Aussie
Kiwi

They're all abbreviations. You just have to make sure you don't use '' to refer to an Indian or else there'll be hell about it.
Whats Kiwi short for?

GTIR

24,741 posts

266 months

Saturday 12th April 2014
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Legacywr said:
What about "Jap's eye"?
Bit of a personal question don't you think. rolleyes

Let's just assume the cream is doing it's job and the OP will be in fine fettle soon. thumbup

Kiltie

7,504 posts

246 months

Saturday 12th April 2014
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sebhaque said:
I have certainly never thought the term "Jap" was offensive - it's just an abbreviation for Japanese.
Well, you need to nip it in the bud.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Saturday 12th April 2014
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Kiltie said:
sebhaque said:
I have certainly never thought the term "Jap" was offensive - it's just an abbreviation for Japanese.
Well, you need to nip it in the bud.
That is inappropriate use of language on a public forum, kindly report yourself to the mods.

Kiltie

7,504 posts

246 months

Saturday 12th April 2014
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WinstonWolf said:
That is inappropriate use of language on a public forum, kindly report yourself to the mods.
confused

If you think it's inappropriate, it should be you who does the reporting.

Fer

7,710 posts

280 months

Saturday 12th April 2014
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WinstonWolf said:
Kiltie said:
sebhaque said:
I have certainly never thought the term "Jap" was offensive - it's just an abbreviation for Japanese.
Well, you need to nip it in the bud.
That is inappropriate use of language on a public forum, kindly report yourself to the mods.
Did he find a in your armour?

Steve H

5,280 posts

195 months

Saturday 12th April 2014
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The abbreviation for Pakistani is dicey over here because of it's historical use as a racist term, that's what makes it different from Brit, Scot, Aussie etc.

We don't have a substantial immigrant Japanese population, unlike some parts of the US so maybe Jap is an abbreviation in one place and an insult in another.

FatSumo

15,077 posts

169 months

Saturday 12th April 2014
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I was offended the other day



Quite clearly a use of the word 'Pom' to offend the British.

Where's me compo?!?!? tongue out