Biking, a great hobby ruined by talentless ******s
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But it only takes a minute to make a mistake, but could it be magic, lets go round again and see, lots have said don't say goodbye and that biking give good feeling but right now I hate it and on sunday I was holding back the tears, I had to really hold on to myself, how can it be that a hobby I love annoys me, how did it come to this? I said I'm out, although riding down the mancuniam way the other day I thought that it is a beautiful world and I'll never forget that once you've tasted love its hard to reach out, the trouble with me is that I was wasting my time worrying, we all fall down and you have to go with what you believe in and that its really a wonderful world.
I'll wait, make sure, then get back on my rocket ship, without sleepwalking, have some patience and keep the promises I made, then I'll rule the world.
Count em
I'll wait, make sure, then get back on my rocket ship, without sleepwalking, have some patience and keep the promises I made, then I'll rule the world.
Count em
Edited by Jazoli on Tuesday 15th April 21:06
Chipchap]I best call the old folks home and book in then. 56 in May. A proper lardy old git. Ridden 1000cc bikes since 1977 at 19 [Z1000A said:
bought as soon as I could actually walk properly after a 17 fracture coming together where I was the soft impact area for a Mini that jumped the lights and took out my mates CB350 that we were 2 up on.
Had a layoff from road bikes from 1989 to 1991 then again from end of 1991 to early 1999. I took up road racing on a CBX at 41 and rode through until 2002. No bikes again until 2007 then got serious in 2010 when I bought a 1078cc MV Agusta.
Am I dead yet, no not quite. Do I have chicken strips. Yes but ickle ones. Have I crashed, yes last year.
Do I still enjoy bikes. Too ferking right I do. However you need to be aware when you can misbehave and when it would endager you to do so.
Are there tossers out there. Without doubt and I may be one of them, you decide.
A
Had a layoff from road bikes from 1989 to 1991 then again from end of 1991 to early 1999. I took up road racing on a CBX at 41 and rode through until 2002. No bikes again until 2007 then got serious in 2010 when I bought a 1078cc MV Agusta.
Am I dead yet, no not quite. Do I have chicken strips. Yes but ickle ones. Have I crashed, yes last year.
Do I still enjoy bikes. Too ferking right I do. However you need to be aware when you can misbehave and when it would endager you to do so.
Are there tossers out there. Without doubt and I may be one of them, you decide.
A
Chipchap said:
Chill fella. It was almost 40yrs ago now. It changed my life but who will ever know if as a result I made better choices or worse choices. One thing remained constant though, I love motorcycles. However there are still many out there who are faster/better/braver than me and good luck to them. Whether they got there by skill, talent, DAS, Born Again I dont care just as long as we all enjoy it whilst we can. I know that I do.
A
Al,A
Having known you a few years and ridden with you over long distance, you got an attitude that lots could learn a thing or two from (I have)
The Born Again biker
spareparts said:
My first bike after passing my DAS was an 800. And even that I found a tad underpowered. Judging by your flat to the tank stylee, get yerself a full on Thou!
All in good time, all in good time...I'm enjoying working my way up steadily, learning as I go. I'll probably spend most of my biking life on 1000cc+ so why rush.
f
ks sake, I sound like more of an old fart than the old farts. I probably need a weekend of coke and hookers or something.
spareparts said:
Chipchap]I best call the old folks home and book in then. 56 in May. A proper lardy old git. Ridden 1000cc bikes since 1977 at 19 [Z1000A said:
bought as soon as I could actually walk properly after a 17 fracture coming together where I was the soft impact area for a Mini that jumped the lights and took out my mates CB350 that we were 2 up on.
Had a layoff from road bikes from 1989 to 1991 then again from end of 1991 to early 1999. I took up road racing on a CBX at 41 and rode through until 2002. No bikes again until 2007 then got serious in 2010 when I bought a 1078cc MV Agusta.
Am I dead yet, no not quite. Do I have chicken strips. Yes but ickle ones. Have I crashed, yes last year.
Do I still enjoy bikes. Too ferking right I do. However you need to be aware when you can misbehave and when it would endager you to do so.
Are there tossers out there. Without doubt and I may be one of them, you decide.
A
Had a layoff from road bikes from 1989 to 1991 then again from end of 1991 to early 1999. I took up road racing on a CBX at 41 and rode through until 2002. No bikes again until 2007 then got serious in 2010 when I bought a 1078cc MV Agusta.
Am I dead yet, no not quite. Do I have chicken strips. Yes but ickle ones. Have I crashed, yes last year.
Do I still enjoy bikes. Too ferking right I do. However you need to be aware when you can misbehave and when it would endager you to do so.
Are there tossers out there. Without doubt and I may be one of them, you decide.
A
Chipchap said:
Chill fella. It was almost 40yrs ago now. It changed my life but who will ever know if as a result I made better choices or worse choices. One thing remained constant though, I love motorcycles. However there are still many out there who are faster/better/braver than me and good luck to them. Whether they got there by skill, talent, DAS, Born Again I dont care just as long as we all enjoy it whilst we can. I know that I do.
A
Al,A
Having known you a few years and ridden with you over long distance, you got an attitude that lots could learn a thing or two from (I have)
The Born Again biker
Jazoli said:
Bear with me... // insert fairly solid rant // .....for a craic, but my riding days are definitely over, its been fun
Interesting post. I haven't stuck my head in here for a while but a video I saw today prompted me have a look.Apologies if its been covered but it seems to echo nicely what Jazoli is saying. Of interest to me is that in all this video footage, the paper (normally one to jump on the "killer bikers" bandwagon) seems to have failed to see any thing wrong with anything, accept to say its a dangerous road.
No, there was nothing particularly wrong with the road. No Mr "journalist", his bike did not slew anywhere, nor did it veer. What happened was the rider was just a bit s
t. He lacked the skills to turn hard enough for his corner speed, he got target fixated on an oncoming car, he stood the bike up and rode it off the side of the hill. tt. In doing so endangered a law abiding road user and perpetuated the public's view that we are all as big a dick as he is. This is why I don't ride with people (20 yr olds!) packing go-pros. Be a hero indeed....I can only hope Jack wasn't so chuffed with his efforts that it was him who sent in the video, as that doesn't help our cause either. Jack, go and learn the skills for a straight forward B Road, somewhere else. Or take up a hobby where you're supposed to deliberately run off the side of hills. Like hang gliding.
Reardy Mister said:
Jazoli said:
Bear with me... // insert fairly solid rant // .....for a craic, but my riding days are definitely over, its been fun
Interesting post. I haven't stuck my head in here for a while but a video I saw today prompted me have a look.Apologies if its been covered but it seems to echo nicely what Jazoli is saying. Of interest to me is that in all this video footage, the paper (normally one to jump on the "killer bikers" bandwagon) seems to have failed to see any thing wrong with anything, accept to say its a dangerous road.
No, there was nothing particularly wrong with the road. No Mr "journalist", his bike did not slew anywhere, nor did it veer. What happened was the rider was just a bit s
t. He lacked the skills to turn hard enough for his corner speed, he got target fixated on an oncoming car, he stood the bike up and rode it off the side of the hill. tt. In doing so endangered a law abiding road user and perpetuated the public's view that we are all as big a dick as he is. This is why I don't ride with people (20 yr olds!) packing go-pros. Be a hero indeed....I can only hope Jack wasn't so chuffed with his efforts that it was him who sent in the video, as that doesn't help our cause either. Jack, go and learn the skills for a straight forward B Road, somewhere else. Or take up a hobby where you're supposed to deliberately run off the side of hills. Like hang gliding.
We had a thread on that video (I know it's the idiot who rode off the cat n piddle rather than do an easy bend from your description) & almost everyone agreed with you.
Hooli said:
Reardy Mister said:
Jazoli said:
Bear with me... // insert fairly solid rant // .....for a craic, but my riding days are definitely over, its been fun
Interesting post. I haven't stuck my head in here for a while but a video I saw today prompted me have a look.Apologies if its been covered but it seems to echo nicely what Jazoli is saying. Of interest to me is that in all this video footage, the paper (normally one to jump on the "killer bikers" bandwagon) seems to have failed to see any thing wrong with anything, accept to say its a dangerous road.
No, there was nothing particularly wrong with the road. No Mr "journalist", his bike did not slew anywhere, nor did it veer. What happened was the rider was just a bit s
t. He lacked the skills to turn hard enough for his corner speed, he got target fixated on an oncoming car, he stood the bike up and rode it off the side of the hill. tt. In doing so endangered a law abiding road user and perpetuated the public's view that we are all as big a dick as he is. This is why I don't ride with people (20 yr olds!) packing go-pros. Be a hero indeed....I can only hope Jack wasn't so chuffed with his efforts that it was him who sent in the video, as that doesn't help our cause either. Jack, go and learn the skills for a straight forward B Road, somewhere else. Or take up a hobby where you're supposed to deliberately run off the side of hills. Like hang gliding.
We had a thread on that video (I know it's the idiot who rode off the cat n piddle rather than do an easy bend from your description) & almost everyone agreed with you.
Craziness.
winbar said:
Had a ride up hartside today a bit later than usual. Knac**ers on bikes and a few idiots in performance jap cars cutting corners. To me the whole point of this road is the bends so why not go around them instead of straightening them. Anyone can go fast in a straight line. Wan**rs
In a car straightening out the road is part of the skill and of which many drivers of mildly hot cars don't do. Even in my diesel Merc I've done people in more road focused cars because they've not taken the shortest route. On a bike it's different. If if you can straight-line it you won't. It's much lore fun throwing the bike over and exiting on full throttle!
GTIR said:
winbar said:
Had a ride up hartside today a bit later than usual. Knac**ers on bikes and a few idiots in performance jap cars cutting corners. To me the whole point of this road is the bends so why not go around them instead of straightening them. Anyone can go fast in a straight line. Wan**rs
In a car straightening out the road is part of the skill and of which many drivers of mildly hot cars don't do. Even in my diesel Merc I've done people in more road focused cars because they've not taken the shortest route. On a bike it's different. If if you can straight-line it you won't. It's much lore fun throwing the bike over and exiting on full throttle!
k out of the way of an oncoming vehicle, or they're simply not able to control their vehicle enough, so they're using the whole road to compensate. The first time I ever went up Hartside way in my trusty 1.3L Fiesta, a kid in a Civic Type R emerged from a blind corner further along the road oversteering wildly, crossing into my lane and sawing at the wheel to straighten it out again - eerily reminiscent of PH's 10 Pence Short, who did similar in an Integra Type R, losing control and crossing onto the other side of the road before hitting a biker, paralysing him.Mastodon2 said:
eerily reminiscent of PH's 10 Pence Short, who did similar in an Integra Type R, losing control and crossing onto the other side of the road before hitting a biker, paralysing him.
That's not entirely accurate, he'd already crashed and the guy on the bike came round the corner and crashed into his car which was blocking the road. GTIR said:
In a car straightening out the road is part of the skill and of which many drivers of mildly hot cars don't do. Even in my diesel Merc I've done people in more road focused cars because they've not taken the shortest route.
On a bike it's different. If if you can straight-line it you won't. It's much lore fun throwing the bike over and exiting on full throttle!
Can't see any skill on being a straight line hero, especially when you are endangering the lives of other people. Most people head for twisty roads for the the thrill of going around a bend on a bike or in car.On a bike it's different. If if you can straight-line it you won't. It's much lore fun throwing the bike over and exiting on full throttle!
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