Complicated plot

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Halmyre

11,183 posts

139 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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xrv said:
Lock stock and two smoking barrels, the Departed and Quantum of solace complicated?

What are you boys smoking?
Your mum.

OK, QoS isn't so much complicated as confusing; I understood it better on the second viewing. However I then watched it a third tine and got confused again.

ch108

1,127 posts

133 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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Miguel Alvarez said:
Donnie Darko was complicating but was also pants IMHO so it got to a point where I didn't care.

Departed and Unusual Suspects are two films which are more complicated the second time round IMHO as I find myself knowing the outcome (duh seen it once) but trying to figure out if I missed some minute detail first time round. I'm basically just rewatching for the clues.
Just didn't get Donnie Darko at all. Downright weird. Wonder if the actors understood it?

Usual Suspects is one of my favourite films, especially the first time I watched it, but as you say I think you can over think it if watching it again.

I enjoyed the departed, especially all the twists at the end, I didn't find it too complicated. At least there were no giant rabbits in it to confuse things further.

Seem to remember Vanilla Sky being unfathomable or was it minority report? Some overly clever thing with Tom Cruise in it anyway. I sort of lost the will to live during it.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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That was Vanilla Sky for me. I thought it went a bit up its own bottom.

LewG

1,358 posts

146 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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I've watched 'The Prestige' a few times now and I'm not sure if it's just plain complicated or you make your own mind up about it all. Either way, great film.

Tony2or4

1,283 posts

165 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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One for us old codgers: The Ipcress File (early Michael Caine Cold War spy thriller).

Saw the film and read the book several times each, and still don't get it.

deadslow

7,988 posts

223 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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Farewell My Lovely (1944) Dick Powell aka "Murder, My Sweet" (original title)

Properly hard to follow first time.

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

149 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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A little help:

Cloud Atlas goes 1,2,3,4,5,6 -6,5,4,3,2,1. Once you realise that, it's a story connected by time.

Jacobs Ladder: he's dead before it starts.

If you're expressing difficulty in following a movie by writing linier & sequal, you need to lower your sights a little.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

204 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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Quantum of Solace

Mission Impossible 2

jjones

4,426 posts

193 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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cum shots deluxe 2, especially hard if you haven't watched the first one. jim.

Tony2or4

1,283 posts

165 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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Justin Cyder said:
If you're expressing difficulty in following a movie by writing linier & sequal, you need to lower your sights a little.
Er, what?confused

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

149 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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Tony2or4 said:
Er, what?confused
P-Jay said:
You watched that 3 times? Oh sod that - I watched it once, got the suspicion that there might be some greatness buried in there somewhere, but there's not it's just a terrible plot, same goes for the Matrix sequals...

Pulp Fiction is complicated to watch, but only because of the non-linier ...

papercup

2,490 posts

219 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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I found Donnie Darko easy to understand as it's the same as Jacob's Ladder.

RedCarsAnonymous

96 posts

120 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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I remember a few friends struggling with Pulp Fiction not being completely linear ... IIRC my conclusion was I needed to hang out with more people with a 3-digit IQ

Halmyre

11,183 posts

139 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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Tony2or4 said:
One for us old codgers: The Ipcress File (early Michael Caine Cold War spy thriller).

Saw the film and read the book several times each, and still don't get it.
I read the book recently for the first time and it differs considerably from the film. The film's a breeze by comparison!

"Good spot of lunch at your club?"
"Not bad...the dover sole's rather good"

Oakey

27,561 posts

216 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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LewG said:
I've watched 'The Prestige' a few times now and I'm not sure if it's just plain complicated or you make your own mind up about it all. Either way, great film.
But everything is explained to you at the end?

speedtwelve

3,510 posts

273 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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Some great films listed on here incidentally.

Inception was the 'mainstream' film that came to mind. It does require some concentration.

Primer I have only watched once and I found it a complete headfk. It's hardly mainstream, though. There is a plot flowchart available that aids full understanding through multiple viewings!

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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deadslow said:
Farewell My Lovely (1944) Dick Powell aka "Murder, My Sweet" (original title)
Properly hard to follow first time.
The old B&W film noir can be labyrinthine. Modern versions are pretty good. LA Confidential is good try, as is Usual Suspects.



Justin Cyder said:
Jacobs Ladder: he's dead before it starts.
If you're expressing difficulty in following a movie by writing linier & sequal, you need to lower your sights a little.
You should spoiler stuff like that.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Oakey said:
LewG said:
I've watched 'The Prestige' a few times now and I'm not sure if it's just plain complicated or you make your own mind up about it all. Either way, great film.
But everything is explained to you at the end?
If you want your mind properly mangled, read the book it was based on. At least with the book you can re-read it and kind of figure out what the hell is going on.

Asterix

24,438 posts

228 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Halb said:
That was Vanilla Sky for me. I thought it went a bit up its own bottom.
Vanilla Sky is possibly one of the most insulting films I've watched.

I worked it out as it went along and didn't appreciate the director assuming I was stupid and spelling it out in primary colours at the end.

And, agreed, it did go up it's own arse.

Chris944_S2

1,914 posts

223 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy left me wondering what on earth it was all about by the end of the film.
One I need to watch again to see if it makes any sense.