RE: Volvo V60 Polestar

[RINGMEISTER]

£50k for 350bhp that weighs 1837kg, not an impressive set of numbers. An S6 v8 4.0 tfsi is £53k list and has this car comprehensively trumped in every department. Its going to a gunfight armed with a dagger.

[jason61c]

rb5er said:

unclesomebody said:

Or you could buy a BMW 335d Xdrive touring which is faster, will give you better mpg, AND will save you about £8k.

Indeed you could have one of those like all the other sheep and drive past 10 others exactly the same every day on the commute. Personally something with a little bit of rarity appeals to me much more.

exactly.

[Leggy]

They had one on display at Gothenburg Airport this week and it looked good.
Their styling has improved, I'd consider one.

[Speed_Demon]

Absolutely love it and I bet it's a brilliant refreah to steer compared to the adjustable everything of the german offerings. Bet it rides much better too.

[anonymous-user]

As said before, this car looks great until you see the price! An Audi S4 and a 335i xDrive are a lot cheaper and a V8 S6 is not much more. I really want to love this car but at 50k it is genuinely over priced

[Evo]

Lovely car however one that's needs three years of depreciation to appreciate it fully.

50k is just too much for a Volvo.

[rockandrollmark]

After having seen (and heard!!) the s60 concept at FOS last year the headline of this story got me rather excited. The final production version seems a bit half arsed in comparison though. Don't get me wrong, it sounds like it's got a healthy wedge of power, and as a package is well thought out, but it's not a patch on the madness of the original concept. Pricey too.

Great write-up though.

[Roma101]

ManOpener said:

But on the flip side is an ugly-as-sin tractor, albeit a fast on on both counts.

So the best driving car in its class is a "tractor"? R i g h t. Moving on.

[Roma101]

rb5er said:

Indeed you could have one of those like all the other sheep and drive past 10 others exactly the same every day on the commute. Personally something with a little bit of rarity appeals to me much more.

So people who appreciate and buy good cars are sheep? You go off and buy your Polestar then and leave the sheep to their most likely better cars and enjoying their £10,000 saving. Each to their own, I suppose!

[Tom_C76]

MonkeyMatt said:

As said before, this car looks great until you see the price! An Audi S4 and a 335i xDrive are a lot cheaper and a V8 S6 is not much more. I really want to love this car but at 50k it is genuinely over priced

It is a step bigger than an A4 or 3 series though. For rear seat space it's more a 5 series competitor, then the price looks better.

[Escort Si-130]

lmao

ManOpener said:

But on the flip side is an ugly-as-sin tractor, albeit a fast on on both counts.

[MrBurt]

There is a refreshing coolness around Volvo at the moment. A decent new Diesel engine, interesting interiors and a feeling that it's the thinking persons modern estate, rather than the follow the crowd badge snob motor with super hard suspension and 20" wheels.
At some point soon I must call into a dealer and check out the boot size. Oh crap I have become middle aged.....

[crostonian]

If you throw the Audi RS Q3 and Porsche Macan into the mix it looks even more over priced. Both offer the practicalities of the Volvo, similar performance and no doubt far better residuals for similar money. I imagine that at least half of the 125 UK cars will be pre-registered dealer demos and offloaded after 6 months for around £35k, their realistic price point.

[Wills2]

RINGMEISTER said:

£50k for 350bhp that weighs 1837kg, not an impressive set of numbers. An S6 v8 4.0 tfsi is £53k list and has this car comprehensively trumped in every department. Its going to a gunfight armed with a dagger.

I agree 350hp for 50k in todays market is way too much for the Volvo brand to carry, I hate to say it but a 335d xdrive touring is faster, more efficient and the F series chassis is the class leader in terms of dynamics, you'd have to be a fan to pick the Volvo.

I'm sure the 125 examples coming over will find homes though.

[Wills2]

rb5er said:

Indeed you could have one of those like all the other sheep and drive past 10 others exactly the same every day on the commute. Personally something with a little bit of rarity appeals to me much more.

I haven't seen one 335d xdrive touring yet, but plenty of 320ds I grant you, it might appeal to you but I doubt you'll spend the 50k to get one, in the same way the new Ghibli appeals to me it's the left field choice against the sea of XF/6GC/CLS/5/E-class etc...but I won't get one either.

[Andy Meads]

I recently hired a V60 D2 in Portugal and was very impressed. It was refined, well made and pulled well. It was also a surprisingly good steer. I came away thinking that I'd prefer one over the default options. So this version is very interesting, albeit a bit pricey. Like others here, I was expecting Golf R money, although perhaps that is unfair given the rarity.

I may be getting old, but memories of my parents' 245 combined with this recent experience are making me consider Volvo as a good alternative to BMW, Audi and Mercedes. It may be vanity, but I do like the idea of driving something a little different that like-minded individuals will appreciate, even if I don't normally care what others take from my choice of car.

I hope Volvo gets the sales it deserves.

[TheJimi]

Andy Meads said:

I recently hired a V60 D2 in Portugal and was very impressed. It was refined, well made and pulled well. It was also a surprisingly good steer. I came away thinking that I'd prefer one over the default options.

Interesting.

I like Volvo, always have.

My old man has the new S60 D4 RDesign, and while it's a lovely car to waft along in, it's terrible in some respects.

When loaded up in a corner, you really feel the car's weight, ditto under breaking - it isn't a car that hides it's mass well and is very understeery. The steering itself is massively over-assisted, which makes it quite unpleasant to thread along a slow, twisty road.

In my opinion, of course

[anonymous-user]

Tom_C76 said:

MonkeyMatt said:

As said before, this car looks great until you see the price! An Audi S4 and a 335i xDrive are a lot cheaper and a V8 S6 is not much more. I really want to love this car but at 50k it is genuinely over priced

It is a step bigger than an A4 or 3 series though. For rear seat space it's more a 5 series competitor, then the price looks better.

Its smaller than both the A4 and the 3 series with a much smaller boot and less space in the back. I think you are thinking of the V70! (I am spending the week driving a V60 D5)

[deltashad]

There's something about the polestar branding which gets me very interested.
it's an alternative to the usual all too common German offerings.
being an ovlov it will keep be one of those cars which will always have the ability to park up just about anywhere without stereotyping the owner.

I like it, I also like the c30. If I was in the market for a sports hatch or medium sized estate I'd be looking at polestar.

I hate following the crowd, but at 50k I'd wait a few years for a used one

And as for the power hungry people making comparisons with Germanic cars, on real driving conditions I don't think the statistics matter that much. It's the experience. And until you drive them back to back you're not going to have a clear view.

Would be nice to be in a position where you could drive a group of cars in similar competition segments over a short period of time, unfortunately. Unless you're a journalist or tester the chances are slim

[Sampaio]

I'm not going to lie and say I'd buy one, I wouldn't. But that's mainly because I'm 19 and haven't owned a truly interesting car yet.

When I tick that box and have kids and (god knows why) loads of furniture to carry around then I'll want to be able to go to a Volvo dealer and find something painted blue.

I suppose some 40 year olds who've gone through this ^ might think the same way...