Tories hire Messina, Labour hire The Axe

[unrepentant]

Two of the top operatives from the Obama campaigns are coming to the UK to help the major parties at the 2015 General Election.

Messina is a nerdy genius who masterminded the '12 campaign and had his finger on the pulse right up to election night. He's a major asset for the Tories IMO. Axe is Axe, a great political operator.

Make sure we get em both back for Hillary 16!

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-23551323


http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-27062278

[dandarez]

Yeah, just been listening to that on the news.

Another reason for me to vote UKIP.

[eharding]

dandarez said:

Yeah, just been listening to that on the news.

Another reason for me to vote UKIP.

Well, you'll be pleased to hear that UKIP have already hired Neil Hamilton to go up against them.

Tories hire Messina, Labour hire The Axe, UKIP hire the tts.

[powerstroke]

Spin over substance and policy's , just what we need !!!!

[10 Pence Short]

powerstroke said:

Spin over substance and policy's , just what we need !!!!

Do you believe it has ever been any different since the birth of civilisation?

[BlackLabel]

The Lib Dems must be feeling left out. Are there no former White House sex pests they could hire for election time?

[unrepentant]

dandarez said:

Yeah, just been listening to that on the news.

Another reason for me to vote UKIP.

Good idea. Why cast your vote when you can throw it away?

[unrepentant]

powerstroke said:

Spin over substance and policy's , just what we need !!!!

Messina isn't a spinner. He's a very skilled operator who understands how a campaign works and runs a great ground game. In '12 when Romney's people were confident they were going to win the pivotal states he knew they were not. He knew down to individual streets how the vote was rolling and he was spot on. In fact the ground game he ran was so good that while Romney was genuinely shocked not to win, Obama didn't even campaign the last day because they knew they had it won.

[MiniMan64]

Bit of a non story surely as if you read it the stories seem to imply that neither will actually work here but nearly advised from the states

[jmorgan]

How well do they know UK politics. Spin is spin but are we going to hear advice along the lines of
"Detroit is ours Mr Milliband"
"Detroit?! we are talking about Croydon"
"Croydon?"

[Countdown]

eharding said:

Well, you'll be pleased to hear that UKIP have already hired Neil Hamilton to go up against them.

Tories hire Messina, Labour hire The Axe, UKIP hire the tts.

According to Farage he's just a "back room boy".

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-02-28/farage-d...

No, that isn't a euphemism.

Edited by Countdown on Friday 18th April 13:44

[unrepentant]

jmorgan said:

How well do they know UK politics. Spin is spin but are we going to hear advice along the lines of
"Detroit is ours Mr Milliband"
"Detroit?! we are talking about Croydon"
"Croydon?"

Nah, it's the Axe dealing with Labour. It'll be more like;

"Croydon? You're worried about fking Croydon? Listen to me you snivelling little st. You win nothing cowering down there hoping your big brother's gonna show up and save your punk ass. If you wanna beat this toff prick Cameron you need to show some spunk you spinless pissant. etc......"

[jmorgan]

I thought he was called the Axe cos he liked lumberjack shirts.

[dandarez]

eharding said:

dandarez said:

Yeah, just been listening to that on the news.

Another reason for me to vote UKIP.

Well, you'll be pleased to hear that UKIP have already hired Neil Hamilton to go up against them.

Tories hire Messina, Labour hire The Axe, UKIP hire the tts.

I'd agree with that, except two parties have to go across the pond and spend a fortune of money we don't apparently have, while one - true, hires a prat - gets homegrown.

Have you noticed how the two from across the pond get on with each other?

Millipeed and Call Me Dave are more clueless than a dictionary with no pages.

What it truly says is this country has lost the bloody plot.

So, like a growing number of voters, we've decided UKIP. You lot don't like it. We don't give a toss!

Carry on with your vitriol. It makes no difference.

[BlackLabel]

The team who ran Obama's digital campaign, both in 2008 and 2012 were the real geniuses imo.

[dandarez]

jmorgan said:

How well do they know UK politics. Spin is spin but are we going to hear advice along the lines of
"Detroit is ours Mr Milliband"
"Detroit?! we are talking about Croydon"
"Croydon?"

Wait till he gets to seats in Washington and Birmingham!

'Hey boy, this is New England!'

I can just see CMD taking a Bliar hip stroll with Messina round his Oxfordshire constituency...

'Mr Messina, this is Woodstock.' Peace man.

[unrepentant]

BlackLabel said:

The team who ran Obama's digital campaign, both in 2008 and 2012 were the real geniuses imo.

Messina ran the whole thing in '12. He also runs OFA which has been a great grass roots fundraising operation, of which I am a founding member.

The '08 campaign set new standards in how to raise money and organise at a grass roots level. We went to a rally during that campaign. At the time I was still living in the UK but was visiting. The rally was only announced the day before as Obama had to change his schedule as his Grandmother was dying. They asked everyone who was coming (35,000 turned up - in a red state) to let them know by email that they planned to attend. We received an email every day after that, some asking for $5, some giving information and some asking for help. As a result of that sort of info gathering they had over 1,000,000 volunteers out on the ground on election day and raised a staggering amount of money in very tiny increments.

[TheSnitch]

Are none of them bringing in The fker?

[Beati Dogu]

TheSnitch said:

Are none of them bringing in The fker?

He'd just want to shoot them all in the back of the head.

[TheSnitch]

Beati Dogu said:

TheSnitch said:

Are none of them bringing in The fker?

He'd just want to shoot them all in the back of the head.

That's where I was going with that....