Speed traps how to avoid
Discussion
Who me said:
To the last two posters, might i ask you to look at the quotation I posted ,and ask WHICH camp you live in?
At no point did I say that I never speed. The question was about someone trying not to speed, and I outlined a method of doing this.A male doctor can advise a woman on breastfeeding... it doesn't mean he produces milk himself!
Riccardino said:
But she is blind anything that makes a sound?
This is a somewhat concerning thing to be posting about someone who regularly drives a car!I'd say just keep more of an eye out - 30 limits usually have street lighting, and will have plenty of repeaters if not. Was she caught by a static camera or a mobile one? The warnings work better for the former (as they don't move) but those are usually the easiest to avoid as they're large and typically painted yellow.
To pre-empt the obvious question; I don't claim to not speed, but I also don't claim to be accidentally doing a speed in excess of the legal limit. If I'm above it, it is deliberate.
Riccardino said:
25 years without a fine or causing an accident and one speeding ticket while taking a friend to the doctor for an emergency? I am sure she is safer than most of the people here
No I am not concerned she pose a risk for her and the others
One minor aberration in 25 years of driving? I'd advise her to put it down as one of those things and just get on with life. Just make sure to pay extra attention on unfamiliar roads. Certainly no need to start developing a dependence on speed limit warning devices imvho.No I am not concerned she pose a risk for her and the others
Riccardino said:
Is that the speed limit anywhere in UK?
Ho ho, she is blind. FFS, tell her to stay awake and pay attention during the course and, thereafter, EVERY TIME SHE GETS BEHIND THE WHEEL. There is no excuse for not knowing the speed limit and/or exceeding it past a static camera. It can only come down to stupidity and inattention.Pothole said:
Riccardino said:
Is that the speed limit anywhere in UK?
Ho ho, she is blind. FFS, tell her to stay awake and pay attention during the course and, thereafter, EVERY TIME SHE GETS BEHIND THE WHEEL. There is no excuse for not knowing the speed limit and/or exceeding it past a static camera. It can only come down to stupidity and inattention.Vipers said:
When I read the original posts, I thought WTF, gave up trying to decipher what he meant.
Still believe the original request was clear (guess I should not have included the reason for the request as it has triggered a lot of stupid answers/posts/advices on my wife)Luckly I still got a few pertinent responses
Is it really difficult to read and understand those questions?
Riccardino said:
Are there legal devices that can be used?
The navigation system in the car cannot be updated to include the speed detectors.
What is the best legal solution? Are there devices that will alert if you exceed the speed limit regularly or at least when you are getting close to a control?
Just to clarifyThe navigation system in the car cannot be updated to include the speed detectors.
What is the best legal solution? Are there devices that will alert if you exceed the speed limit regularly or at least when you are getting close to a control?
Those two posts
Riccardino said:
Is that the speed limit anywhere in UK?
Riccardino said:
But she is blind anything that makes a sound?
were silly responses to silly postsEdited by Riccardino on Saturday 19th April 14:52
Riccardino said:
Still believe the original request was clear (guess I should not have included the reason for the request as it has triggered a lot of stupid answers/posts/advices on my wife)
Luckly I still got a few pertinent responses
Is it really difficult to read and understand those questions?te]
You said Luckly I still got a few pertinent responses
Is it really difficult to read and understand those questions?te]
Is that the speed limit anywhere in UK?
You responded to the sign showing 30 and that is what I responded to.
NoNeed said:
jimbop1 said:
zygalski said:
Hi.
Ask her to watch out for these:
Smug wkerAsk her to watch out for these:
It's far too fking easy, chaps.
Street lighting + Buildings - Higher limit repeaters = 30mph
Put simply, if you're driving in a built up area, and there are regular street lamps (in use or not) then the limit will be 30 mph, unless the full size 'gateway' signs state otherwise. If the limit is higher in such a built up area, regular 'repeater' speed limit signs will remind you of this. So if you are unsure, because you were not paying attention past the 'gateway' signs, stick to 30 until you pass a 'repeater' for 40/50/NSL. At the very worst, you'll hold someone else up for a few seconds. If, however, the limit is 30 and you presume/guess it's higher, you run the risk of prosecution for speeding. It's relatively simple, but sooo many drivers either don't know and get it wrong, or choose to ignore the limit. In either case, there's no real defence.
I have an electronic 'speed limiter' operated from buttons on the steering wheel, as well as my cruise control. I use it most of the time, to avoid straying over the limit, but you still need to pay attention, to reset the limiter where speed limits change. I don't see what's wrong with suggesting that folk "pay a bit more attention". It is the cheapest, simplest solution to improving the standard of driving out on our roads after all
yellowjack said:
NoNeed said:
jimbop1 said:
zygalski said:
Hi.
Ask her to watch out for these:
Smug wkerAsk her to watch out for these:
It's far too fking easy, chaps.
Street lighting + Buildings - Higher limit repeaters = 30mph
Put simply, if you're driving in a built up area, and there are regular street lamps (in use or not) then the limit will be 30 mph, unless the full size 'gateway' signs state otherwise. If the limit is higher in such a built up area, regular 'repeater' speed limit signs will remind you of this. So if you are unsure, because you were not paying attention past the 'gateway' signs, stick to 30 until you pass a 'repeater' for 40/50/NSL. At the very worst, you'll hold someone else up for a few seconds. If, however, the limit is 30 and you presume/guess it's higher, you run the risk of prosecution for speeding. It's relatively simple, but sooo many drivers either don't know and get it wrong, or choose to ignore the limit. In either case, there's no real defence.
I have an electronic 'speed limiter' operated from buttons on the steering wheel, as well as my cruise control. I use it most of the time, to avoid straying over the limit, but you still need to pay attention, to reset the limiter where speed limits change. I don't see what's wrong with suggesting that folk "pay a bit more attention". It is the cheapest, simplest solution to improving the standard of driving out on our roads after all
There really isn't any need for snide remarks and sarcastic responses, we are not all driving gods or there would be no such devices on the market.
NoNeed said:
There really isn't any need for snide remarks and sarcastic responses, we are not all driving gods or there would be no such devices on the market.
Tiresome isn't it?Tbh, it's what I expect on PH now, especially in the SP&L section.
OP's wife is an easy target for the PH comedians to attack. I suppose every fat balding middle aged bloke can be such a 'hero' behind a keyboard.
I wonder when starting a topic themselves if they'd like to be treated in a similar manner.
NoNeed said:
So you use a device to help you from straying over the limit, isn't that what the OP is asking about?
I think this is the funniest response of all!
By the way, the road where she took the fine is not in a built up area and the speed detector is not very visible as the speed limit. Can be confusing. Was alerted by some friends who got a fine there but my wife did not know it! But again I am not here to complain for the fine. You exceed the speed limit and you pay for that
So after
yellowjack said:
It's far too fking easy, chaps.
...
and an unnecessary lesson (as said that road was not the tipical 30mph) than the conclusion is...
yellowjack said:
I have an electronic 'speed limiter' operated from buttons on the steering wheel, as well as my cruise control. I use it most of the time, to avoid straying over the limit,
Come on is fking easy and you use speed limiter and cruise control
Actually a speed limiter can be a solution but I would prefer an alert as I think the speed limiter is too invasive (you should be able to modulate the throttle yourself, just need a reminder for speed limits)
NoNeed said:
There really isn't any need for snide remarks and sarcastic responses, we are not all driving gods or there would be no such devices on the market.
Guess it will be more and more like that in the future and do not think that all those drivers' god are switching off all the elctronic aid (most would probably have an accident with those cars)g3org3y said:
Tbh, it's what I expect on PH now, especially in the SP&L section.
Can be even worst.Look at the Aston /BR section. It made me even dislike those wonderful cars (even if to be fair there is a lot of more silent good members and nice people there and a lot of fresh and enthusiastic new owner)
g3org3y said:
OP's wife is an easy target for the PH comedians to attack. I suppose every fat balding middle aged bloke can be such a 'hero' behind a keyboard.
Probably it is also a "male superîority syndrome" g3org3y said:
I wonder when starting a topic themselves if they'd like to be treated in a similar manner.
Lucky got a few useful answers in between (and some reply are funny) Edited by Riccardino on Sunday 20th April 10:16
Seems you just can't escape BR comments on PH
One useful outcome of the SAC is they (try) to teach you to read a road and what its speed limit is likely to be if you can't see speed markings. For instance.. any street lighting except on a motorway and in the absence of any other indications and its a 30.. including a dual carriage way. And then they also teach you what a dual carriage way is. And what the national speed limit is. etc. You'd be surprised at how many people don't know some basic facts about our roads. This alone should help avoid speeding.
I also loved the excuses for speeding. Common themes were "new car which was quieter, faster, easier to drive and didn't realise" but the corker from a elderly chap was "may car won't do 30 in top [gear]"
The speed limit thing is, I find, useful on motorway sections with reduced speed limits. Its easy to get sucked along in a line of traffic over a long distance. I actually think cruise control should be banned as it allows you to take your feet off the pedals which means you're not in a natural position to hit the brake should you need to but that's another story.
One useful outcome of the SAC is they (try) to teach you to read a road and what its speed limit is likely to be if you can't see speed markings. For instance.. any street lighting except on a motorway and in the absence of any other indications and its a 30.. including a dual carriage way. And then they also teach you what a dual carriage way is. And what the national speed limit is. etc. You'd be surprised at how many people don't know some basic facts about our roads. This alone should help avoid speeding.
I also loved the excuses for speeding. Common themes were "new car which was quieter, faster, easier to drive and didn't realise" but the corker from a elderly chap was "may car won't do 30 in top [gear]"
The speed limit thing is, I find, useful on motorway sections with reduced speed limits. Its easy to get sucked along in a line of traffic over a long distance. I actually think cruise control should be banned as it allows you to take your feet off the pedals which means you're not in a natural position to hit the brake should you need to but that's another story.
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