Losing the stomach fat

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Martyn-123

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652 posts

185 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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Hi,

Having recently reached 50 i started to notice a bit of a stomach starting and whilst not desperate to get a 6 pack i want to tone up a little so i made the effort to find a solution.

I am 5ft 11" tall and in size 34 trousers and loving the chocolate so 3 weeks ago i joined a local "boot camp" club, i am pleased to say that the instructor is full of encouragement rarther than the Army Major type which i would not have liked.

The routine consists of Monday/Wednesday/Friday mornings at 6am we do a high intense session for 30 minutes using body resistance similiar to Metafit, quick shower and then off to work.

Also encouraged is to improve on the diet, i have given up Bread, cheese, sugar, beer, chocolate and tried to avoid anything with lots of sugar or processed food, since giving up the sugar my craving for chocolate has gone completely which i am very suprised about as before i could have lived on chocolate and the thought of a MacDonalds just turns me off. I buy chicken drumsticks and take these to work each day and the meat intake has increased a lot, loving the steaks as well.

Even though i am getting up earlier i am feeling much more alert and are sleeping much better.

The results so far, not looking to lose weight just replace the stomach fat with muscle which i have noticed in my upper body from all the exercises and my jeans are loose around the stomach so very pleased so far,

Interestingly running is not encouraged at all as a efficient way of losing weight,

I will post another update in a month,


Martyn





Edited by Martyn-123 on Saturday 19th April 15:45

Hoofy

76,351 posts

282 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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I would recommend adding heavy lifting to your routine. HIIT will only get you so far and at some point you'll be able to do 200 push ups in a row which will mean you'll be able to do 200 push ups in a row.

Also, you don't have to cut out the fun stuff. The trick is to increase protein levels so your muscles have something to work with whilst decreasing total calorie intake. If you're training hard, you could sneak in the occasional beer or packet of crisps. As long as there's a deficit with high protein (around 150g per day if you can't be bothered to be precise) then you should achieve what you want.

honest_delboy

1,502 posts

200 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Why would running not be classed as an efficient way to lose weight ? I'm curious (as someone who is running quite a lot and not losing much weight)

goldblum

10,272 posts

167 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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honest_delboy said:
Why would running not be classed as an efficient way to lose weight ?
Because the boot camp instructor doesn't run and doesn't want to lose any of his group?

Liquid Tuna

1,400 posts

156 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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goldblum said:
honest_delboy said:
Why would running not be classed as an efficient way to lose weight ?
Because the boot camp instructor doesn't run and doesn't want to lose any of his group?
Reckon so too. I also reckon the most "efficient" method is to mix everything up, steady state cardio, sprints, HIIT, Tabata, Crossfit, etc etc, chuck everything in the mix. Stops you getting bored and stops your body getting used to and becoming efficient at one particular type of exercise.

Flibble

6,475 posts

181 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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honest_delboy said:
Why would running not be classed as an efficient way to lose weight ? I'm curious (as someone who is running quite a lot and not losing much weight)
Exercise in general isn't that efficient, diet is what makes you lose weight.

Eleven

26,271 posts

222 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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Flibble said:
Exercise in general isn't that efficient, diet is what makes you lose weight.
Expect someone to rock up shortly and tell you you're wrong.

H22observer

784 posts

127 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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Flibble said:
, diet is what makes you lose weight.
That statement is actually correct, to be fair. You will lose weight* if you starve yourself of calories and protein (that's what most diets involve).

  • Muscle mass and some body fat
For sustainable healthy weight loss, you need a mix of carbs, fat and protein coupled with frequent exercise/training.

In my experience dieting alone is an unnecessary quick fix, which will likely result in reduced muscle mass and a lower RMR.

Most people i know who lose weight through diet alone gradually put it back on and seem to be in worse physical shape than before the original diet.

goldblum

10,272 posts

167 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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A calorie deficit causes weightloss. How you go about achieving that deficit is up to you. However, research on obesity has shown that all things being equal,slightly more weight is lost through exercise than diet. For most people not subject to the rigours of a research study a blend of exercise and diet is recommended.

Eleven

26,271 posts

222 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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The scientific evidence is compelling.

However despite the overwhelming scientific evidence to the contrary a great many people report greater fat loss through diet rather than exercise.

grumbledoak

31,532 posts

233 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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Most fat buggers simply cannot do a significant amount of exercise. For those carrying around three stones of crisps and biscuits it is quite a bit easier to stop eating them than it is to run them off.

Eleven

26,271 posts

222 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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grumbledoak said:
Most fat buggers simply cannot do a significant amount of exercise. For those carrying around three stones of crisps and biscuits it is quite a bit easier to stop eating them than it is to run them off.
Yep and it's easier not to eat a packet of biscuits than run it off.

H22observer

784 posts

127 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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Eleven said:
The scientific evidence is compelling.

However despite the overwhelming scientific evidence to the contrary a great many people report greater fat loss through diet rather than exercise.
Does the average person even know how to measure fat loss? People usually report any weight loss in stones/lbs and never say anything like "My body fat percentage had reduced from 22% to 19%".

Most people measure weight / BMI, which is very crude and inaccurate.

One other thing. The method that works best for a slightly overweight middle-aged woman might not work as well for a slightly overweight 20-30 year old man.


H22observer

784 posts

127 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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OP - A good substitute food for healthy eating is Prawns if you ever grow weary of chicken, turkey and steak....

A generous portion of prawns (without condiments) will weigh in at around 150 calories and 30g Protein.


chevy-stu

5,392 posts

228 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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I'm in a similar situation.

mid 40's, find I gain body fat very easily in last few years.
I do like my food but have a healthy mixed diet, very little high fat junk and fizzy drinks, don't drink alcohol at all.
I've been doing gym session 2/3 times a week, usually 25 mins cardio (bike/rower), plus 6 or so groups of weight sets for about 4 months. No desk job so on the go most the day, but still very slow at shifting the mid section fat.

Any brilliant ideas... ? Maybe more cardio. Any big diet changes will be hard as I work odd and erratic hours and often get 'given' meals without much choice when working.

theguvernor

629 posts

131 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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I used to be a fat bugger too.
I lost around 45lbs in 12 weeks thorugn a combination of calorie deficit, weights & cardio.
BF went from 27% to 12.5%

I was eating circa 1600cals a day, whilst doing 20-30mins cardio before breakfast & 20-30mins cardio after evening dinner.

Workout before evening dinner.

Food involved was strictcly:
Egg whites, oats with water, chicken, brown rice, greens / broccoli, salmon/lean steak/lean mince/oily fish etc.
+ Protein shakes & copious amounts of water + black coffee/green tea.

It was boring & hard work, but you put in what you get out.

I was on no carbs for the final 6 weeks & it's amazing how little food your body actually needs to be able to function.

I also went from an XL to M & from a 40-42 inch waist to a 32.

Eleven

26,271 posts

222 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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theguvernor said:
I used to be a fat bugger too.
I lost around 45lbs in 12 weeks thorugn a combination of calorie deficit, weights & cardio.
BF went from 27% to 12.5%

I was eating circa 1600cals a day, whilst doing 20-30mins cardio before breakfast & 20-30mins cardio after evening dinner.

Workout before evening dinner.

Food involved was strictcly:
Egg whites, oats with water, chicken, brown rice, greens / broccoli, salmon/lean steak/lean mince/oily fish etc.
+ Protein shakes & copious amounts of water + black coffee/green tea.

It was boring & hard work, but you put in what you get out.

I was on no carbs for the final 6 weeks & it's amazing how little food your body actually needs to be able to function.

I also went from an XL to M & from a 40-42 inch waist to a 32.
And now?

chevy-stu

5,392 posts

228 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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theguvernor said:
I used to be a fat bugger too.
I lost around 45lbs in 12 weeks thorugn a combination of calorie deficit, weights & cardio.
BF went from 27% to 12.5%

I was eating circa 1600cals a day, whilst doing 20-30mins cardio before breakfast & 20-30mins cardio after evening dinner.

Workout before evening dinner.

Food involved was strictcly:
Egg whites, oats with water, chicken, brown rice, greens / broccoli, salmon/lean steak/lean mince/oily fish etc.
+ Protein shakes & copious amounts of water + black coffee/green tea.

It was boring & hard work, but you put in what you get out.

I was on no carbs for the final 6 weeks & it's amazing how little food your body actually needs to be able to function.

I also went from an XL to M & from a 40-42 inch waist to a 32.
I just couldn't do that diet, I would go nuts..... Nice food and cars are my only vices in life, and I haven't got time every day for over 1.5 hours of excercise.

Hoofy

76,351 posts

282 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Eleven said:
And now?
biggrin

http://youtu.be/_CbpbD144hc?t=19s

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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goldblum said:
honest_delboy said:
Why would running not be classed as an efficient way to lose weight ?
Because the boot camp instructor doesn't run and doesn't want to lose any of his group?
hehe

Running is brilliant and effective.
A nice lil Parkrun in the morning for me. Should be 600-700 calories done.