The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 8]
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Funny how Balo was saying in that interview earlier in the week that he's never been an out and out striker, that he's the type to roam around the pitch. Well I guess Suarez came to us as a similar type of 'free roaming' player, but he also moved a bit more and created plenty of chances!!
Cracking game so far with Man City and Tottenham - though there's nothing like Michael Owen commentating to take the shine off the return of the Premiership!!
Cracking game so far with Man City and Tottenham - though there's nothing like Michael Owen commentating to take the shine off the return of the Premiership!!
I agree. We should have gone for Bony. He can score left foot, right foot, tap-ins, headers, 30 yard screamers. He tracks back(!!) and provides assists. No Suarez substitute but sure of a hell a more rounded player, that will score goals and won't sulk when not given the ball.
BR has made some terrible signings, of which Balotelli tops the lot but he does follow the usual Liverpool manager trend there, for at least the last 25 years. One great signing coupled with 4 below/average players. He signs way too many players that simply have potential - yes it can and will work with some players but the majority it won't. You have to mix it with world class talent - could Liverpool have spent the Suarez £65m fee BETTER on a couple of players LIKE Costa (£32m) and Fabregas (£30m) and still had £40m+ to spend on what I would call potential. Let's put it this way - is Fabregas = Lallana + £5m?
Hmm.
BR has made some terrible signings, of which Balotelli tops the lot but he does follow the usual Liverpool manager trend there, for at least the last 25 years. One great signing coupled with 4 below/average players. He signs way too many players that simply have potential - yes it can and will work with some players but the majority it won't. You have to mix it with world class talent - could Liverpool have spent the Suarez £65m fee BETTER on a couple of players LIKE Costa (£32m) and Fabregas (£30m) and still had £40m+ to spend on what I would call potential. Let's put it this way - is Fabregas = Lallana + £5m?
Hmm.
type-r said:
I agree. We should have gone for Bony. He can score left foot, right foot, tap-ins, headers, 30 yard screamers. He tracks back(!!) and provides assists. No Suarez substitute but sure of a hell a more rounded player, that will score goals and won't sulk when not given the ball.
BR has made some terrible signings, of which Balotelli tops the lot but he does follow the usual Liverpool manager trend there, for at least the last 25 years. One great signing coupled with 4 below/average players. He signs way too many players that simply have potential - yes it can and will work with some players but the majority it won't. You have to mix it with world class talent - could Liverpool have spent the Suarez £65m fee BETTER on a couple of players LIKE Costa (£32m) and Fabregas (£30m) and still had £40m+ to spend on what I would call potential. Let's put it this way - is Fabregas = Lallana + £5m?
Hmm.
It's not that simple. What makes you think Fabregas and Costa would want to go to Liverpool?BR has made some terrible signings, of which Balotelli tops the lot but he does follow the usual Liverpool manager trend there, for at least the last 25 years. One great signing coupled with 4 below/average players. He signs way too many players that simply have potential - yes it can and will work with some players but the majority it won't. You have to mix it with world class talent - could Liverpool have spent the Suarez £65m fee BETTER on a couple of players LIKE Costa (£32m) and Fabregas (£30m) and still had £40m+ to spend on what I would call potential. Let's put it this way - is Fabregas = Lallana + £5m?
Hmm.
I did use the word "LIKE". I mean players of similiar calibre - Liverpool were paying Suraez close to £200k so I am not sure sugar daddies really comes into the equation. Of course there are a lot factors involved including risk but surely that risk is slightly better mitigated when they are proven and want to come to Liverpool.
Only slightly though.
We were in for Sanchez. But out of all the top quality signings throughout the league in the last few seasons, arguably only Costa, Di Maria, Fabregas and Suarez have really lived up to their name and price tag. That's a lot of signings and money spent on players that have only done OK!
We were in for Sanchez. But out of all the top quality signings throughout the league in the last few seasons, arguably only Costa, Di Maria, Fabregas and Suarez have really lived up to their name and price tag. That's a lot of signings and money spent on players that have only done OK!
We apparently were in for Sanchez but he chose to go to London.
London will always beat Liverpool in terms of location.
If London isn't interested would players be interested if the money was right?
Would have loved to see £30m being offered for Higuain or £40m for Marco Reus.
These are players who have shown quality and can play the way we play. When Balotelli signed nobody thought he is a direct replacement for Suarez. Doesn't even fit in to the style of play we played last season where 1 striker played up top and 1 played in the wide attacking mid position, like Suarez and Sturridge did.
What is an extra £10m these days if the club show great intention in signing a brilliant player? £60m for Di Maria. Expensive but looks like he is worth every penny of that figure.
Would have Sanchez came to us if we offered an extra £30k a week more than Arsenal?
Who knows what our club thinks in the transfer windows. They're the ones who are spending the millions. Huge huge money.
London will always beat Liverpool in terms of location.
If London isn't interested would players be interested if the money was right?
Would have loved to see £30m being offered for Higuain or £40m for Marco Reus.
These are players who have shown quality and can play the way we play. When Balotelli signed nobody thought he is a direct replacement for Suarez. Doesn't even fit in to the style of play we played last season where 1 striker played up top and 1 played in the wide attacking mid position, like Suarez and Sturridge did.
What is an extra £10m these days if the club show great intention in signing a brilliant player? £60m for Di Maria. Expensive but looks like he is worth every penny of that figure.
Would have Sanchez came to us if we offered an extra £30k a week more than Arsenal?
Who knows what our club thinks in the transfer windows. They're the ones who are spending the millions. Huge huge money.
BlackST said:
Would have Sanchez came to us if we offered an extra £30k a week more than Arsenal?
For an extra £30k a week would he have been any more guaranteed to succeed?Maybe Sanchez will end the season with 10+ assists or 20+ goals (though at the moment he's looking good but not doing amazing).
I'm certainly glad we didn't think Ozil was the answer to our prayers a couple of summers ago...
the thing is if you buy world class quality from a different league there's a chance of them being world class here. £30k a week extra is nothing in football these days, an extra £1.5m a year.
I don't know what they are doing down at Southampton but it is brilliant to see what they are doing. Be even more impressive to see if they carry it on all season as I think they done well the beginning of last season then dropped off?
I don't know what they are doing down at Southampton but it is brilliant to see what they are doing. Be even more impressive to see if they carry it on all season as I think they done well the beginning of last season then dropped off?
We just have a history of buying very poorly. Since BRs arrival the only standout players we've bought have been Sturridge, Coutinho and possibly Lallana and Moreno. The list of failed and/or underwhelmed signings is considerably greater.
When we've gone out and bought proven quality they've usually delivered. The problem is proven quality costs more and we're never prepared to pay for it. The only times we're genuinely interested is if there is a contract bargain to be had.
We've had the money to spend, we just spent it on volume and talked nonsense about needing to strengthen the squad as the rationale for bringing in too many average squad fillers.
Southampton, with a new manager and very little spend, even after losing their most important players from last year, is showing what a genuinely talented manager can achieve. At the very least I think they'll compete with Spurs and Everton for the Europa places.
When we've gone out and bought proven quality they've usually delivered. The problem is proven quality costs more and we're never prepared to pay for it. The only times we're genuinely interested is if there is a contract bargain to be had.
We've had the money to spend, we just spent it on volume and talked nonsense about needing to strengthen the squad as the rationale for bringing in too many average squad fillers.
Southampton, with a new manager and very little spend, even after losing their most important players from last year, is showing what a genuinely talented manager can achieve. At the very least I think they'll compete with Spurs and Everton for the Europa places.
Southampton are playing well no doubt, but I can see them dropping off across the season.
This transfer window has been the most disappointing for me, in previous seasons with no CL football it's understandable that it's a struggle to get the cream, but losing Suarez without signing a top notch replacement is unforgivable really, we have ended up with another problem child but without the ability to singlehandedly destroy teams! January could be an expensive window as we are desperate for a quality striker who can lead the line when Sturridge is out.
This transfer window has been the most disappointing for me, in previous seasons with no CL football it's understandable that it's a struggle to get the cream, but losing Suarez without signing a top notch replacement is unforgivable really, we have ended up with another problem child but without the ability to singlehandedly destroy teams! January could be an expensive window as we are desperate for a quality striker who can lead the line when Sturridge is out.
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