Sag now reduced - why so cheap?

Sag now reduced - why so cheap?

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chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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zeppo said:
I paid for my last big service appr. 700.-GBP, incl. shim check and fluids...
yes

This seems to be the going rate for a 12k service including tappets - same for a £16k Tamoras and a £50k+ Sagaris

WolfyJones

945 posts

133 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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chris watton said:
zeppo said:
I paid for my last big service appr. 700.-GBP, incl. shim check and fluids...
yes

This seems to be the going rate for a 12k service including tappets - same for a £16k Tamoras and a £50k+ Sagaris
If you don't need extras such as lambda sensor, engine mounts, boots,gaiters, exhaust mounts, etc etc

It can get over 1k very easy smile

From memory St8six 12k service was around 800GBP without additional work, mounts,gaiters etc



Edited by WolfyJones on Thursday 8th May 10:14

Zippee

13,474 posts

235 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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WolfyJones said:
chris watton said:
zeppo said:
I paid for my last big service appr. 700.-GBP, incl. shim check and fluids...
yes

This seems to be the going rate for a 12k service including tappets - same for a £16k Tamoras and a £50k+ Sagaris
If you don't need extras such as lambda sensor, engine mounts, boots,gaiters, exhaust mounts, etc etc

It can get over 1k very easy smile

From memory St8six 12k service was around 800GBP without additional work, mounts,gaiters etc



Edited by WolfyJones on Thursday 8th May 10:14
Thats all a big if though and could just as easily be required on a 55k Sag as it could on a 42k Sag.
And also an engine rebuild could also be required on a 55k Sag as it could be on a 42k Sag, as could a clutch.
Personally I think it was reasonably priced and as such sold accordingly. Is it also possible the new owner negotiated into the sale a full service and/or money off to account for a new clutch (if even required)?
As for the Gaz Golds, does that really mean the previous owner skimped on servicing? Or does it mean that they were an average driver that in 90% of real world driving conditions wouldn't really notice the difference between them and Nitrons (forgetting the quality issues Gaz have had for the moment). Say the owner had put Racing reds on (similar price to GGs), would you say that an owner had skimped and therefore had run the car on a budget then? I ran R/Reds on my T350 and now have Nitrons and there is barely any difference to me - on track maybe it'd be different.

Edited by Zippee on Thursday 8th May 10:51

WolfyJones

945 posts

133 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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Zippee said:
Thats all a big if though and could just as easily be required on a 55k Sag as it could on a 42k Sag.
And also an engine rebuild could also be required on a 55k Sag as it could be on a 42k Sag, as could a clutch.
Personally I think it was reasonably priced and as such sold accordingly. Is it also possible the new owner negotiated into the sale a full service and/or money off to account for a new clutch (if even required)?
No because cars at 55k+ should need nothing doing and have full spec IMHO

The mileage on this car wouldn't concern me as long as it wasn't burning loads of oil, but with that mileage I would factor in another new clutch if I was looking to sell,
The fact it also needs a big service plus what else might pitch up when servicing, dampers IMHO , no air con and what is considered high mileage is why it's a 43k Sag, also not sure what warranty comes with this dealer but it wouldn't be a Str8six warranty they underwrite themselves,






Edited by WolfyJones on Thursday 8th May 11:42

slimtater

Original Poster:

1,035 posts

171 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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chris watton said:
zeppo said:
I paid for my last big service appr. 700.-GBP, incl. shim check and fluids...
yes

This seems to be the going rate for a 12k service including tappets - same for a £16k Tamoras and a £50k+ Sagaris
Don't let my wife see this - she is still recovering from my last major service (plus many extras) last week!

chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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slimtater said:
chris watton said:
zeppo said:
I paid for my last big service appr. 700.-GBP, incl. shim check and fluids...
yes

This seems to be the going rate for a 12k service including tappets - same for a £16k Tamoras and a £50k+ Sagaris
Don't let my wife see this - she is still recovering from my last major service (plus many extras) last week!
I'm telling.....

hehe

Laser Sag

2,860 posts

244 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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NWTony said:
It's along shot but has anyone who has changed suspension have a Sagaris Bilsten shock they want to sell me?

Fingers crossed!
Hi Tony

I sent you an email regarding Bilstein shocks following your request, any interest?
Kev

sorry to use the thread for this but never know if PMs get through or not on PH

slimtater

Original Poster:

1,035 posts

171 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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Laser Sag said:
Hi Tony

I sent you an email regarding Bilstein shocks following your request, any interest?
Kev

sorry to use the thread for this but never know if PMs get through or not on PH
No problem - my original thread subject is now closed! wink

jasonpaul

164 posts

163 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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Well I had a tvr sometime ago look at the sag at the min, they are nice but I just think they are not 50k car
I am going to wait may buy if the right one comes up at the right price some have been up for sale for over a year!!!

cheeky

2,102 posts

265 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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jasonpaul said:
Well I had a tvr sometime ago look at the sag at the min, they are nice but I just think they are not 50k car
The market says they are, and more in some cases.
jasonpaul said:
I am going to wait may buy if the right one comes up at the right price some have been up for sale for over a year!!!
Good luck - you may need it!

jasonpaul

164 posts

163 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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Well I had a tvr sometime ago look at the sag at the min, they are nice but I just think they are not 50k car
I am going to wait may buy if the right one comes up at the right price some have been up for sale for over a year!!!

cheeky

2,102 posts

265 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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jasonpaul said:
Well I had a tvr sometime ago look at the sag at the min, they are nice but I just think they are not 50k car
I am going to wait may buy if the right one comes up at the right price some have been up for sale for over a year!!!
If you were trying to correct your earlier post, you've failed I'm afraid. It's identical.

Getsis

1,537 posts

217 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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Approx. 11% of UK Sags are for sale at the moment, for a rare car this is a high proportion, with so many for sale it's turning into a buyers market not a sellers anymore.

900T-R

20,404 posts

258 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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jasonpaul said:
Well I had a tvr sometime ago look at the sag at the min, they are nice but I just think they are not 50k car
Much in the same way a Cobra 'isn't a £500K car' then. wink

Thething to remember is that the £50K used buys that seem to offer 'more' of everything (performance, build quality, image) will be £30K cars before long, and more often than not drop into four figures within the next decade... In the long run, 'more' is often 'less' and the market knows it.

dobbie

131 posts

189 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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I personally think they have reached there peak, some have been up for sale for over a year. Don't think they will go down that much, as other TVR models are going up a lot and are playing catch up! 5 years ago I purchased my 2005 T350T for £19000, I just wished I had brought a sag back then for about 30k, although can't complain,how many other cars out there go up in value? :-)

cheeky

2,102 posts

265 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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Getsis said:
Approx. 11% of UK Sags are for sale at the moment, for a rare car this is a high proportion
However, this number (sometimes even higher) has been for sale throughout the period during which Sagaris prices have risen.

thainy77

3,347 posts

199 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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The T350's are still appreciating a fair bit too, I sold mine a couple of years ago for around the £20k mark and it's currently in the classifieds for £28k with no additional mods and a further 7000 miles.

I never understood the big price gap between them and Sags and I still don't.

chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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thainy77 said:
The T350's are still appreciating a fair bit too, I sold mine a couple of years ago for around the £20k mark and it's currently in the classifieds for £28k with no additional mods and a further 7000 miles.

I never understood the big price gap between them and Sags and I still don't.
I think perhaps it could be because the Sags are even rarer, and is seen to be the last true TVR built. Perhaps.

thainy77

3,347 posts

199 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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chris watton said:
I think perhaps it could be because the Sags are even rarer, and is seen to be the last true TVR built. Perhaps.
Yes I understand that, I guess it comes down to logic, I couldn't see the point in paying twice the price for a very similar car. Sag styling is also a bit marmite, I obviously preferred the T350 styling. 99% of people don't buy them to be an appreciating asset although it is a nice bonus.

glow worm

5,867 posts

228 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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chris watton said:
I think perhaps it could be because the Sags are even rarer, and is seen to be the last true TVR built. Perhaps.
But it wasn't smile .