Mrs NW Suspended on full pay!!

Mrs NW Suspended on full pay!!

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NormalWisdom

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2,139 posts

159 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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So, the saga continues

Following on from other issues with work ( SausageGate - SalaryGate ), the story gets better!



Mrs NW called me last evening (I work away from home) and tells me she was suspended from work, on full pay, whilst a "theft" of c£515 is investigated. The thing is, the dates of the alleged theft coincide with when she was off work for 2 weeks having collapsed at work with a suspected heart-attack. Her employers are fully aware of this yet still they suspend her.

She will obviously be consulting with her union, is there anything else PH can recommend as I have really run out of patience with what I consider to be a string of vindictive and deliberately bullying actions which are actually really impacting Mrs NW's health.

Thanks NW

pork911

7,136 posts

183 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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First step, her to get a new job?

NormalWisdom

Original Poster:

2,139 posts

159 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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pork911 said:
First step, her to get a new job?
That is definitely in progress

AB

16,977 posts

195 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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God knows why she's stayed up to now.

If she can prove she wasn't there then surely she'll be fine. Tell her to enjoy her paid leave.

Jasandjules

69,884 posts

229 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Take advice from someone who has you as their client and so in insured, but it sounds like you are sailing close to constructive dismissal as they are harassing her. The problem is constructive dismissal is a real challenge to win.

Red Devil

13,060 posts

208 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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NormalWisdom said:
Mrs NW called me last evening (I work away from home) and tells me she was suspended from work, on full pay, whilst a "theft" of c£515 is investigated. The thing is, the dates of the alleged theft coincide with when she was off work for 2 weeks having collapsed at work with a suspected heart-attack. Her employers are fully aware of this yet still they suspend her.
It may be that there is a policy in place that suspension is the automatic default where there is an suspicion or allegation of theft. However if the dates are that clear cut then the suspension period should be minimal because the facts (as presented on here) can only lead to one conclusion as far as she is concerned. If a " theft" actually took place someone else must have done it.

It seems your o/h is being targeted for whatever reason. What are the school governors doing to sort it out?


CallorFold

832 posts

133 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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As above, if she wasn't even in when the money went missing, sit back and enjoy the free holiday?

robwilk

818 posts

180 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Its not one of those trojan horse affected schools is it, sounds like she is definately being targeted buy someone.

Riley Blue

20,953 posts

226 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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You'll be lucky to get any any action out of her union. When I accompanied my disabled O/H to a meeting with her union regional rep in the hope of getting a watertight claim for victimisation and intimidation acted upon all he was interested in was minimising the cost of union involvement. His first question was 'How much would you accept as a pay off?' Useless prick!

carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Good luck sorting this out. It smells a bit of office politics and stitch up from here. Sounds like a relative and a friend that went to tribunals. The friend won their case, the relative got some concessions at their appeal which admitted they'd made a few mistakes but seemed to centre on 'We followed procedures.'

There seems to be a few in the public sector that think feeding excrement into procedures somehow legitimises the excrement. They shrug their shoulders and say 'We followed procedures'.

I used to work with someone on the rob. Some other colleagues were more annoyed it about than me, possibly as they'd been saying stuff had been going missing for years but also while that colleague was stealing everyone else there was under suspicion.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Jasandjules said:
Take advice from someone who has you as their client and so in insured, but it sounds like you are sailing close to constructive dismissal as they are harassing her. The problem is constructive dismissal is a real challenge to win.
I concur. Consider also a (Court, not tribunal) claim under the harassment legislation and/or for stress/injury caused by bullying and hostile work environment.

PM me for some solicitor recommendations.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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robwilk said:
Its not one of those trojan horse affected schools is it, sounds like she is definately being targeted buy someone.
Wow. Mighty leaps R Us. It's the PH way.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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laugh

carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Riley Blue said:
You'll be lucky to get any any action out of her union. When I accompanied my disabled O/H to a meeting with her union regional rep in the hope of getting a watertight claim for victimisation and intimidation acted upon all he was interested in was minimising the cost of union involvement. His first question was 'How much would you accept as a pay off?' Useless prick!
Just to give a counter. I know someone that was on the receiving end of discrimination like this. I don't know if a union was involved, but the company sacked the two men involved.

NormalWisdom

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2,139 posts

159 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Breadvan72 said:
PM me for some solicitor recommendations.
Thanks for that Bv - As soon as we get the official letter from her employer I will take stock - She was verbally "laid-off" yesterday.

I am just amazed that employers think they can get away with such actions, their attitudes (IMHO) have to take significant blame for her hospitalisation in April and to compound with this now is frankly barbaric!!

GreatGranny

9,128 posts

226 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Is she employed by the school or the LA?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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NormalWisdom said:
Breadvan72 said:
PM me for some solicitor recommendations.
Thanks for that Bv - As soon as we get the official letter from her employer I will take stock - She was verbally "laid-off" yesterday.

I am just amazed that employers think they can get away with such actions, their attitudes (IMHO) have to take significant blame for her hospitalisation in April and to compound with this now is frankly barbaric!!
Ubi ius ibi remedium*. In other words, go get 'em. I will offer some pro bono initial steers by PM if you like.





* Where there is a legal right, there is a remedy for the breach of it.

PanzerCommander

5,026 posts

218 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Sympathys to the OP and is OH this sounds like a really stty situation to be in, hope you get it sorted.

Breadvan72 said:
Ubi ius ibi remedium*. In other words, go get 'em. I will offer some pro bono initial steers by PM if you like.





* Where there is a legal right, there is a remedy for the breach of it.
clap top man.

Edited by PanzerCommander on Wednesday 7th May 14:40

Davel

8,982 posts

258 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Has anyone else there been suspended or just Mrs NW?

BGarside

1,564 posts

137 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Sorry to hear of your wife's experiences. Been in the same position myself.

However, a full-pay suspension is the best possible situation from which to search for another job, so maybe the best use of her time and energy right now is to do just that, rather than getting too distracted by the legal implications of dismissal.

It sounds as though she would not want to keep working where she is currently in any case.