Aston DB9/Bentoey Continental GT used.....

Aston DB9/Bentoey Continental GT used.....

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AlmostUseful

3,282 posts

200 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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XJ Flyer said:
Look for the best 6.0 Litre V12 last of the line XJS you can find and then put a manual box in it.It will do almost everything the Aston can do for a fraction of the cost.
Are you the new 300bhp/t?

Not many people want to buy an old car and change the gearbox when they can buy something else that already does the job.

Monty Python

4,812 posts

197 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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vinnie83

3,367 posts

193 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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XJ Flyer said:
Look for the best 6.0 Litre V12 last of the line XJS you can find and then put a manual box in it.It will do almost everything the Aston can do for a fraction of the cost.
Yep, you'll need that money you've saved to replace every other part on the car to keep it on the road.

Not to mention that the XJS wouldn't know which way the cars mentioned went.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the XJS, especially the V12.. but they're slow, VERY thirsty (coming from someone who runs a tuned SL55 as a daily) and are horrendously unreliable.

All very well for a die hard enthusiast, or a hobbyist to have as a project toy, but you'd have to be very brave or stupid to drive one as your daily car.


Sump

5,484 posts

167 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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Don't get a DB9. It's not what it's all cracked up to be.

Handbuilt is nothing to be proud of. Go for something that's made on a production line. Conti is fine, 997, Panemera, XKRS, R8 etc.

vinnie83

3,367 posts

193 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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Sump said:
Don't get a DB9. It's not what it's all cracked up to be.

Handbuilt is nothing to be proud of. Go for something that's made on a production line. Conti is fine, 997, Panemera, XKRS, R8 etc.
How bad are they?

It's on my list of cars to own in the future so would be interesting to know how it stacks up vs. a 911 turbo or SL55.


Sump

5,484 posts

167 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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Get the SL55 over it.

Get anything that is actually built on a production line. I may be exaggerating but the build quality is so crap. Nothing has gone wrong though so far touch wood.



Neil1300r

5,487 posts

178 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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vinnie83 said:
Sump said:
Don't get a DB9. It's not what it's all cracked up to be.

Handbuilt is nothing to be proud of. Go for something that's made on a production line. Conti is fine, 997, Panemera, XKRS, R8 etc.
How bad are they?

It's on my list of cars to own in the future so would be interesting to know how it stacks up vs. a 911 turbo or SL55.
Last time I was at the Aston factory I saw two production lines! They are hand assembled not hand built. The majority are very reliable. Some do have squeaks in the cabin - where you get leather against leather. Usually solvable. Had mine 4.5 years, second most reliable car I've ever owner, only beaten by the S2000

vinnie83

3,367 posts

193 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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Sump said:
Get the SL55 over it.

Get anything that is actually built on a production line. I may be exaggerating but the build quality is so crap. Nothing has gone wrong though so far touch wood.
Already have an SL55, and 911 turbo.

Have never owned an Aston, and it just has that something about it. I always look when I see one and roll down the windows to hear the sound! It's just got something that makes me want to own one at least once.


anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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The problem with these threads is that you get a bunch of people who have looked up how much you can get pads, discs and an oil filter on ebay for, factor in a couple of hundred quid for 'specialist' labour and say "Go for it, running costs aren't that expensive".

The truth is that this sort of car can drop eye watering costs at a blink of an eye. Unless you can afford to buy a main dealer example with a manufacturer backed warranty, don't bother or it may get expensive.

vinnie83

3,367 posts

193 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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JoshyS said:
The problem with these threads is that you get a bunch of people who have looked up how much you can get pads, discs and an oil filter on ebay for, factor in a couple of hundred quid for 'specialist' labour and say "Go for it, running costs aren't that expensive".

The truth is that this sort of car can drop eye watering costs at a blink of an eye. Unless you can afford to buy a main dealer example with a manufacturer backed warranty, don't bother or it may get expensive.
I don't know about that.

If you are aware of the realistic potential costs, it's often a wise purchase going outside of the dealer network.

It often allows you to get a newer car for similar money - just don't assume a £30k car that used to cost £120k+ will cost the same as a £30k 530d to run.

But yes, there are many who assume they can afford to run a car like those mentioned here on a budget and then st themselves when something goes wrong.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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vinnie83 said:
I don't know about that.

If you are aware of the realistic potential costs, it's often a wise purchase going outside of the dealer network.
Not with a car like this it is not. You'd really want an ironclad warranty backing you up to make it a realistic ownership proposition or more instantly available disposable income than sense.

I'm all for ducking and diving running costs and trying to do things as cost effectively as possible on my own cars, but on something like a Conti GT it is neigh on impossible. Second hand/pattern parts are near non existent, main dealer parts prices are eye watering, there are a limited amount of people that can competently repair them and there are even fewer people with the correct equipment. Did you know a couple of oxygen sensors require the engine to be dropped on a Conti GT? Same with the starter motors, turbos and countless other bits. That's 16 hours book time (More like 25-30 in the real world) at a specialist garage with the correct engine lift before you've replaced a single component.

I couldn't enjoy a car knowing that it could at any moment drop that sort of bill with me fronting the entire cost, could you?

Edited by JoshyS on Friday 22 August 17:08

Sump

5,484 posts

167 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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JoshyS said:
The problem with these threads is that you get a bunch of people who have looked up how much you can get pads, discs and an oil filter on ebay for, factor in a couple of hundred quid for 'specialist' labour and say "Go for it, running costs aren't that expensive".

The truth is that this sort of car can drop eye watering costs at a blink of an eye. Unless you can afford to buy a main dealer example with a manufacturer backed warranty, don't bother or it may get expensive.
Not on AMs where you have Bosch, Nissan, Jaguar, Ford, Dodge, Citroen and Mazda part numbers wink

With these cars if you want to get ripped of you will get ripped off.

vinnie83

3,367 posts

193 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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JoshyS said:
I couldn't enjoy a car knowing that it could at any moment drop that sort of bill with me fronting the entire cost, could you?
I did just that with my SL55, but I wanted to modify it, and admittedly there are many uniform parts with other MB cars and the non AMG SL.

Having never researched the Bentley or Aston, I can't say I know much about them. Is it not viable to run these with specialist if you intend to keep the car or if it's an older car?

I don't mean a shoestring budget - my SL55 costs are far from that, but it's certainly not as expensive as my many would think.


Neil1300r

5,487 posts

178 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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vinnie83 said:
I did just that with my SL55, but I wanted to modify it, and admittedly there are many uniform parts with other MB cars and the non AMG SL.

Having never researched the Bentley or Aston, I can't say I know much about them. Is it not viable to run these with specialist if you intend to keep the car or if it's an older car?

I don't mean a shoestring budget - my SL55 costs are far from that, but it's certainly not as expensive as my many would think.
Don't know about Bentley running costs, but modern Astons aren't that bad. Engines look like they are buillet proof. Gearboxes have no major reported problems. Known issues are thermostat (about 35 quid) and pain bubbling in certain areas, and with manuals, clutch life. There are a few Aston specialists around the country, if you go into the Aston sub forum there is even a Frequently Asked Questions listing recommended independents, servicing costs at main dealers, etc.
Annual servicing is going to be £600-1200.

whoami

13,151 posts

240 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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Sump said:
Get the SL55 over it.
hehe

PGNCerbera

2,934 posts

166 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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XJ Flyer said:
Look for the best 6.0 Litre V12 last of the line XJS you can find and then put a manual box in it.It will do almost everything the Aston can do for a fraction of the cost.
Hahahahaha. This made me laugh.

I'm guessing from the time of your post you were a bit leathered.

Any update op?

Gompo

4,411 posts

258 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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Granturismo? Versus most other 'GT's mentioned, I would pick the Italian. Ok, I know little about running costs..