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XCP

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16,914 posts

228 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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That the CC of A snd S, Mr Gargan has been suspended. Can't see any news on the interweb thingy though ???

Vaud

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155 months

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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I'm wondering how long the investigation will take whilst he's suspended on full pay & perks.

These things tend to drag on for a surprisingly long time.

XCP

Original Poster:

16,914 posts

228 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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Better to do the job properly than to have to pay him compo later if they make a mess of it.

Seesure

1,187 posts

239 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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Was mentioned on the news on Heart FM at 4.30 this afternoon... PCC has taken the decision based on various allegations...

carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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Is he wearing one of these?:



Not running like a Swiss Railway on his watch then?

Time for the Swiss Cheese analogy and getting all of the holes lined up again?

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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XCP said:
Better to do the job properly than to have to pay him compo later if they make a mess of it.
Accepting that, I still expect them to draw it out over 6-8 months at least.

We'll see whether or not this is correct.

XCP

Original Poster:

16,914 posts

228 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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I shall keep my ear to the ground.

carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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At the moment any complaints are just that. They need to be proven.

Mill Wheel

6,149 posts

196 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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Stuart Hyde, former acting CC in Cumbria was suspended for over a year.

He criticised the time taken to investigate his case, in an investigation run by South Wales Police.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-25979...

BBC news said:
He was eventually cleared of misconduct but then retired in December.

Cumbria's Police and Crime Commissioner Richard Rhodes said the suspension was "in accordance" with regulations.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission cleared Mr Hyde in 2012, but an investigation by South Wales Police continued.

That second inquiry found no evidence of misconduct but made recommendations covering breaches of guidelines on using the force credit card, overseas trips, social media and recording gifts and hospitality.

Mr Hyde, who had a 30-year police career, was then re-suspended from his job by Mr Rhodes, who was unhappy with the report's findings.

"I don't think that's what justice is about. It doesn't feel like a fair process at all. What it feels like is a one-sided view," he told BBC Inside Out North East and Cumbria.

"People that made allegations... their information and allegations were treated as correct without an opportunity for me to address them.

"I never thought I would understand why people take their own life, but I think I understand that now."
The allegations against him were varied.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2263741/Po...

Stuart Hyde said:
"People that made allegations... their information and allegations were treated as correct without an opportunity for me to address them.

"I never thought I would understand why people take their own life, but I think I understand that now."
It is a shame he left, as that revelation may have helped him understand how others feel while they are being investigated by the police, and it takes so long!!

carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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Mill Wheel said:
Stuart Hyde said:
"People that made allegations... their information and allegations were treated as correct without an opportunity for me to address them.

"I never thought I would understand why people take their own life, but I think I understand that now."
It is a shame he left, as that revelation may have helped him understand how others feel while they are being investigated by the police, and it takes so long!!
Those that shout the loudest, or throw the most mud win. They'll clasp the rule books and alter the facts to suit their agenda and protect themselves.

Edited by carinaman on Wednesday 14th May 07:21

carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Sunday 15th June 2014
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XCP said:
That the CC of A snd S, Mr Gargan has been suspended. Can't see any news on the interweb thingy though ???
http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/40-people-interviewed...

I guess he may not be attending Harrogate this week?

omegac

358 posts

219 months

Sunday 15th June 2014
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carinaman said:
http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/40-people-interviewed...

I guess he may not be attending Harrogate this week?
Couldn't have happened to a nicer smugger bloke, wants to bring in privatisation now he's a CC on £150K a yr and would only ever hear how happy the whole constabulary were...some said he was destined for a senior role at The Met, not now I guess.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 15th June 2014
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I hope the PCCs don't make it a hat-trick:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-...


XCP

Original Poster:

16,914 posts

228 months

Sunday 15th June 2014
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carinaman said:
http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/40-people-interviewed...

I guess he may not be attending Harrogate this week?
I have heard some fairly unsavoury stories, but I shall keep them to myself at the moment.

carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Sunday 15th June 2014
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XCP said:
I have heard some fairly unsavoury stories, but I shall keep them to myself at the moment.
That's probably the best policy. I've been on the receiving end of false allegations and an intelligence insulting 'The dog ate my homework' letter from a Chief Constable via my MP. Some do sling mud in the hope that it will accumulate and stick. Sometimes there is smoke without fire. Some police officers seem to have had a common sense bypass to match their ethical one.

carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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I just caught the end of a piece on it, was just on the news (18.08). Seems the investigation may have uncovered a DPA offence wrt sending personal information about people within the force.


carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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UK constable accused of breaching data protection law to access womens private info July 11 2014 said:
UK chief constable, Nick Gargan, is under criminal investigation for allegedly breaking data protection legislation to access personal information of younger females whom he’s accused of inappropriately propositioning.

Previously stationed at Avon and Somerset, the former constable once held the position of chief of the National Policing Improvement Agency, and was reportedly tipped to become a Met police commissioner.

But following an investigation by UK police watchdog, the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC), Gargan has been suspended and is the subject of criminal investigation.
from: http://rt.com/uk/172128-police-harassment-data-ill...

If that's true that's unbelievably stupid. Why risk all that for silliness like that? If it's true?

Why the post now? Vaud's post about receiving an Email with confidential staff information reminded me of this case. Kind of confirm's Vaud's update on that thread.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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And you believe as gospel anything that Putins mouthpiece Rt.com has to say.....