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Hi Guys,
Im perhaps delving into the wonderful world Prosche-ism. Currently drive a 340R (weekends/track only obv).
My question is what age does the GT3 marque go back to. 98?
Also if you have any tips on what to look out for. Cam belt changes, extras on the car, etc etc.
Thanks in advance,
Paul
Im perhaps delving into the wonderful world Prosche-ism. Currently drive a 340R (weekends/track only obv).
My question is what age does the GT3 marque go back to. 98?
Also if you have any tips on what to look out for. Cam belt changes, extras on the car, etc etc.
Thanks in advance,
Paul
Not sure on date, but around then sounds about right for a MK1
No problems with them, as engine is bullet proof, and can well stand the constant hammering of trackdays.
MKI prices are very strong at the mo, due there rarity as there were a lot fewer MKI's Made than the current MKII, so in terms of risiduals they are a safe buy, but low mileage examples are in the realms of MKII money now.
MKI Club sports seem to be even rarer i think
I have MKII cs and love it to bits !!!
G.
No problems with them, as engine is bullet proof, and can well stand the constant hammering of trackdays.
MKI prices are very strong at the mo, due there rarity as there were a lot fewer MKI's Made than the current MKII, so in terms of risiduals they are a safe buy, but low mileage examples are in the realms of MKII money now.
MKI Club sports seem to be even rarer i think
I have MKII cs and love it to bits !!!
G.
Mk1 GT3 earliest is 1999 . Pricing is dependant as always on condition,history,mileage & colour.
£30k should not buy you a GT3 whether LHD or even 100,000 miler.
MCP have a 63,000 miler in LHD for c£43,000 if that gives you a guide.
My guess is that the car at £30k is a 1998 C2 3.4litre 300BHP with a GT3 bodykit.
Allan
£30k should not buy you a GT3 whether LHD or even 100,000 miler.
MCP have a 63,000 miler in LHD for c£43,000 if that gives you a guide.
My guess is that the car at £30k is a 1998 C2 3.4litre 300BHP with a GT3 bodykit.
Allan
pley said:
Also if you have any tips on what to look out for.
The Titanic GT3 register lot are really the fellas to ask, as most of them track their car pretty heavily.
Biggest issue is standard brakes, unless you go for an uprate of some description: usually along with increased cooling, or on track you will cook them with monotonus regularity.
Dunno if the heavily tracked road GT3 cars suffer it (GT3RS don't seem to anyway) but a weak point on the GT3 racers im told is gearboxes letting go.
uktrucks said:
Earliest GT3's had synchro rings cast in margarine but later cars had steel and most will probably had them done by now.
Brakes in themselves are capable of good performance, however reputation of being poor gained from wrong technique used on track by lots of owners.
Allan
Allan, does this mean we should be stamping on the brakes in short hard bursts rather than slow progressive compression????
Allan
After driving a mark 1 GT3 at Silverstone some years ago in a back to back comparison with my 993rs I would have to disagree. The brakes on the mark 1 are appaling on track. Fade and lack of performance are evident after even a short period on circuit even with limited periods of application.
JC
After driving a mark 1 GT3 at Silverstone some years ago in a back to back comparison with my 993rs I would have to disagree. The brakes on the mark 1 are appaling on track. Fade and lack of performance are evident after even a short period on circuit even with limited periods of application.
JC
The MK1 GT3 was from 99 to 2000. Easy way to tell - does the car have rear seats? If so then it ain't no GT3. Should simply have the rear seating area covered in carpet, but no seats themselves - and a GT3 badge just under the rear window.
There were 2 versions - clubsport and comfort.
Comfort had sports seats, standard seatbelts and a half-rollcage.
Clubsport has a full cage, bucket seats with 6-point harness on drivers seat, single mass flywheel, internal and external cutoff switches and a thumping great fire extinguisher in the passenger footwell.
I'm almost sure what you're seeing is a 996 C2 with bodykit.
There were 2 versions - clubsport and comfort.
Comfort had sports seats, standard seatbelts and a half-rollcage.
Clubsport has a full cage, bucket seats with 6-point harness on drivers seat, single mass flywheel, internal and external cutoff switches and a thumping great fire extinguisher in the passenger footwell.
I'm almost sure what you're seeing is a 996 C2 with bodykit.
It only costs about £1,300.00 + vat to upgrade the brakes on the GT3 Mk1 to GT2/GT3 Mk2/ GT3RS spec, which are 6 pot calipers instead of 4 pot the important thing is pad area its almost double, and with larger discs
it makes a big difference on track. On the road the 4 pots were OK but on track they get found out, the early 996 turbo's have the 4 pots as well plus a lot extra weight I bet they have no brakes left after 3-4 laps at Bedford!
Z
it makes a big difference on track. On the road the 4 pots were OK but on track they get found out, the early 996 turbo's have the 4 pots as well plus a lot extra weight I bet they have no brakes left after 3-4 laps at Bedford!
Z
peterpeter said:
Earliest GT3's had synchro rings cast in margarine but later cars had steel and most will probably had them done by now.
Brakes in themselves are capable of good performance, however reputation of being poor gained from wrong technique used on track by lots of owners.
Allan
Allan, does this mean we should be stamping on the brakes in short hard bursts rather than slow progressive compression????
uktrucks said:
Brakes in themselves are capable of good performance, however reputation of being poor gained from wrong technique used on track by lots of owners.
Allan
Well yes & no.
They are good brakes for road use no doubt about it.
However on track they are well known to get too hot, yes a part of this may be down to the drivers style, but how often do you here complaints about 964RS or 993RS stoppers?
The majority of Mk1 owners who track hard & often have uprated the front brakes or have shares in Porsche parts GMbH to help with the amount of discs they go through in a track season.
I know people who track Mk1 GT3s on the standard calipers/discs and have no problems, but like any car you are taking on track you've got to do some preparation - all porsche are delivered with road-optimised brake pads, for trackwork you need to change these to decent track pads like Pagid Orange/Black or Performance Friction Carbon Metallic - this will make a big difference to the durablility of the brakes. Also the brake fluid - bleed out the standard stuff and get some race-spec fluid in there.
Do this, brake properly and I'm sure the standard stoppers will be fine.
Do this, brake properly and I'm sure the standard stoppers will be fine.
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