605bhp Per Ton 200SX Powered Kitcar
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I'm built for agility not Directorship
Not impossible to change the rear axle but certainly not worth the effort on this car. What I loose on the road in road-handling I make up for in traction on a track - unfortunately these cars will always have compromises in certain areas. Thankfully the car was bought knowing 'what it was' so I don't feel hard done by. The larger axle will also be beneficial over Winter when the new engine goes in
Not impossible to change the rear axle but certainly not worth the effort on this car. What I loose on the road in road-handling I make up for in traction on a track - unfortunately these cars will always have compromises in certain areas. Thankfully the car was bought knowing 'what it was' so I don't feel hard done by. The larger axle will also be beneficial over Winter when the new engine goes in
I like to take my MX5 up there too, cracking bit of road, shame its a bit short. The bit on the other side of Woodhead that runs alongside the reservoir and leads to Glossop is great too.
More or less the same spot
Would love a kit car but they are a bit on the pricey side for me at the moment, you seem to be doing it right though by keeping it on a budget.
Hi Garett - I love Holme-Moss, too many damn Tour-De-France wannabees on it now though
Anyway, since the suspension was setup I still haven't er, driven it. Life has got in the way, or something like that.
Despite just 10 posts ago saying that I didn't like the power delivery of a turbo'd engine, I have decided to go to the dark-side.
Shortly, I will be fitting a CA18DET engine into the car. These engines were originally from an S13 200SX. (My aim was to fit an SR20DET from the S14/S14a 200sx but aside from being a bit trickier on the wiring, a bit heavier than the CA18DET, they are ridiculously priced). (IMO)
So, after doing some top-class Internet snooping, Googling and forum searching I actually found the donor parts through a friend that does drifting.
A shopping list was given, an offer list given back, some money changed hands and a few days later my donor bits arrived:
- Engine Loom
- Dead Engine with bigger turbo
- Rebuilt Engine
- Gearbox
- Spare manifold and turbo (Standard)
- Spare manifold and turbo (unknown)
- Huge box of spares...
When completed and working the engine will be running Stage 2 which will consist of uprated fuel pump (255 litres per hour), more boost (14psi), 3" downpipe, hard induction pipes, FMIC and a stage 2 chip. It should hopefully produce around 250-270bhp which should take me to around 450bhp/ton (or the same as an MP12C).
The engines:
The engine with the red camcover was the dead one, so that needed stripping so I can take the working bits off it and re-claim some space in the garage.
Think there is something missing?
This is the bigger turbo compared to the normal T25 that 'should' be on a CA18DET
The dead engine had a nearly new 6-plate paddle clutch on, but the flywheel has obviously taken some hammer and could do with a skim, or replacement.
...and that's where I'm up to at the moment. I know this should be a Winter project but I'm itching to get this lot thrown in and working so I aim to collect parts quickly over the next few weeks with the aim being to fit the engine and box early September.
Anyway, since the suspension was setup I still haven't er, driven it. Life has got in the way, or something like that.
Despite just 10 posts ago saying that I didn't like the power delivery of a turbo'd engine, I have decided to go to the dark-side.
Shortly, I will be fitting a CA18DET engine into the car. These engines were originally from an S13 200SX. (My aim was to fit an SR20DET from the S14/S14a 200sx but aside from being a bit trickier on the wiring, a bit heavier than the CA18DET, they are ridiculously priced). (IMO)
So, after doing some top-class Internet snooping, Googling and forum searching I actually found the donor parts through a friend that does drifting.
A shopping list was given, an offer list given back, some money changed hands and a few days later my donor bits arrived:
- Engine Loom
- Dead Engine with bigger turbo
- Rebuilt Engine
- Gearbox
- Spare manifold and turbo (Standard)
- Spare manifold and turbo (unknown)
- Huge box of spares...
When completed and working the engine will be running Stage 2 which will consist of uprated fuel pump (255 litres per hour), more boost (14psi), 3" downpipe, hard induction pipes, FMIC and a stage 2 chip. It should hopefully produce around 250-270bhp which should take me to around 450bhp/ton (or the same as an MP12C).
The engines:
The engine with the red camcover was the dead one, so that needed stripping so I can take the working bits off it and re-claim some space in the garage.
Think there is something missing?
This is the bigger turbo compared to the normal T25 that 'should' be on a CA18DET
The dead engine had a nearly new 6-plate paddle clutch on, but the flywheel has obviously taken some hammer and could do with a skim, or replacement.
...and that's where I'm up to at the moment. I know this should be a Winter project but I'm itching to get this lot thrown in and working so I aim to collect parts quickly over the next few weeks with the aim being to fit the engine and box early September.
I've spent the last few weeks amassing a pile of parts and doing a minor rebuild on the new engine.
255 litre per hour fuel pump
Tim Boost gauge
Gearbox jetwashed and de-greased
6 plate paddle clutch
Flywheel skimmed
My spares pile is growing rapidly!
Engine block all painted up
Old vs New Alternator
HKS Mushroom Filter
New Intercooler, 2.75" Outlets
..it just fits inside the nose-cone
New alloy radiator - from a civic!
Turbo Blanket to keep under-bonnet temps down
Engine taken over to my mates house to get cleaned up inside (work horse VW Golf LOL)
Rebuild time
Before and After (eewww)
New alternator brackets made up, and alternator side swapped for more clearance
All timed up!
My current engine and gearbox is coming out this weekend and all the new bits are going in from Monday onwards, I'm just a little bit excited now!
255 litre per hour fuel pump
Tim Boost gauge
Gearbox jetwashed and de-greased
6 plate paddle clutch
Flywheel skimmed
My spares pile is growing rapidly!
Engine block all painted up
Old vs New Alternator
HKS Mushroom Filter
New Intercooler, 2.75" Outlets
..it just fits inside the nose-cone
New alloy radiator - from a civic!
Turbo Blanket to keep under-bonnet temps down
Engine taken over to my mates house to get cleaned up inside (work horse VW Golf LOL)
Rebuild time
Before and After (eewww)
New alternator brackets made up, and alternator side swapped for more clearance
All timed up!
My current engine and gearbox is coming out this weekend and all the new bits are going in from Monday onwards, I'm just a little bit excited now!
I've had a busy couple of weeks -
So I took the engine out:
New engine ready for it's new home
Cut some bits off
Fitted the new alloy racing radiator
Fitted the intercooler
Engine Mounts mocked up
First Test Fit
Modifying some chassis rails
Back in For the Last Time
Plenty of Room (sort of)
Ummm, not as subtle as I first hoped! haha
Then brought the car back home and began with the joyous task of hose fitting.
First trial fit -
Had to trim the nose-cone abit
Then started on a test-run of the wiring
That's where I'm up to, I've written a big job list today so know what's left to do.
My boost controller also arrived yesterday so once it's working I can get that thrown on and get a map put it that should take it to a safe 260-270bhp, as, when I opened my ECU I found this inside
So I took the engine out:
New engine ready for it's new home
Cut some bits off
Fitted the new alloy racing radiator
Fitted the intercooler
Engine Mounts mocked up
First Test Fit
Modifying some chassis rails
Back in For the Last Time
Plenty of Room (sort of)
Ummm, not as subtle as I first hoped! haha
Then brought the car back home and began with the joyous task of hose fitting.
First trial fit -
Had to trim the nose-cone abit
Then started on a test-run of the wiring
That's where I'm up to, I've written a big job list today so know what's left to do.
My boost controller also arrived yesterday so once it's working I can get that thrown on and get a map put it that should take it to a safe 260-270bhp, as, when I opened my ECU I found this inside
Edited by dave2007bc on Tuesday 9th September 09:59
Edited by dave2007bc on Thursday 7th May 09:53
Edited by dave2007bc on Thursday 7th May 09:56
Hello
Made lots of progress. Whilst I have tried to do the job properly first time there are a number of improvements I already know I want to make - notably in relation to the way the coolant pipes run - these will be getting sorted once I know there are no issues that I've yet to discover!
Does everyone hate wiring or is it just me?
Did some final hose fitting
Even though at this stage the car wasn't running yet, I decided to take it to get an exhaust made. Yep it's short and yes it will be incredibly loud. I will be having a silencer that I can put on as and when necessary but I've always wanted a turbo car with no silencer so now I have the chance I'm not missing out on the opportunity!
All done, just needed to tidy the engine bay wiring up at this stage
I then needed to chop my bonnet up to allow it to fit properly. I know this looks a tw@. The inlet is being shortened so that no cut is needed and the bonnet will be replaced next month.
Test drive this evening!
Made lots of progress. Whilst I have tried to do the job properly first time there are a number of improvements I already know I want to make - notably in relation to the way the coolant pipes run - these will be getting sorted once I know there are no issues that I've yet to discover!
Does everyone hate wiring or is it just me?
Did some final hose fitting
Even though at this stage the car wasn't running yet, I decided to take it to get an exhaust made. Yep it's short and yes it will be incredibly loud. I will be having a silencer that I can put on as and when necessary but I've always wanted a turbo car with no silencer so now I have the chance I'm not missing out on the opportunity!
All done, just needed to tidy the engine bay wiring up at this stage
I then needed to chop my bonnet up to allow it to fit properly. I know this looks a tw@. The inlet is being shortened so that no cut is needed and the bonnet will be replaced next month.
Test drive this evening!
Well, it works!
It is quite frankly f**king awesome - I can't believe it's only running 8psi when there's potential to run nearly double that.
Can't wait to get everything put back together properly to really get some miles on her and see what she can do.
It is quite frankly f**king awesome - I can't believe it's only running 8psi when there's potential to run nearly double that.
Can't wait to get everything put back together properly to really get some miles on her and see what she can do.
Edited by dave2007bc on Thursday 7th May 10:00
Sorry, I've let you down - couldn't deal with the noise of just the 'downpipe'. It wasn't the sheer volume of the thing, it was how awful it sounded on idle; almost tractor like and echoy.
I went back to Clark Customs in Barnsley and we fitted a fairly small backbox and pipe. It's still a 3" system and can if needs be, come off for some loud holliganism if I ever feel the need.
Jason Clark, my mate that did the exhaust and downpipe is also a pro-drifter so I offered him the key to see how my car would perform. I think it's safe to say he was fairly happy with it
I have got a few niggles with the car that I need to sort:
- Clutch biting point is too high and needs altering some-how
- Clutch pedal needs a 'clutch-stop' on the bulkhead
- Had a water leak (this is now sorted)
- Need my new inlet making so that I can get my new bonnet on
- Side panels need flairing to let out the heat - it was getting really warm yesterday
- Swirl pot needs some heatshield adding to it; it was that warm yesterday that it was actually boiling in the pot!!
I went back to Clark Customs in Barnsley and we fitted a fairly small backbox and pipe. It's still a 3" system and can if needs be, come off for some loud holliganism if I ever feel the need.
Jason Clark, my mate that did the exhaust and downpipe is also a pro-drifter so I offered him the key to see how my car would perform. I think it's safe to say he was fairly happy with it
I have got a few niggles with the car that I need to sort:
- Clutch biting point is too high and needs altering some-how
- Clutch pedal needs a 'clutch-stop' on the bulkhead
- Had a water leak (this is now sorted)
- Need my new inlet making so that I can get my new bonnet on
- Side panels need flairing to let out the heat - it was getting really warm yesterday
- Swirl pot needs some heatshield adding to it; it was that warm yesterday that it was actually boiling in the pot!!
Edited by dave2007bc on Thursday 7th May 10:01
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