Which driveway surface and how much?

Which driveway surface and how much?

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jon-

16,509 posts

216 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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hehe

How wide? We can at least work out an approx £/sqft from your path smile

ATTAK Z

10,993 posts

189 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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jon- said:
hehe

How wide? We can at least work out an approx £/sqft from your path smile
1200 mm

about £44.00/m2 including excavation, geotextile membrane, sub base and 35 mm surfacing

jon-

16,509 posts

216 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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So potentially cheaper than block paving (ignoring economies of scale)

Elli5 - we await your quote smile

Maty

1,233 posts

213 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Maty said:
Reading this thread with interest...

We have this to contend with after moving in a few months ago it's next on the hit list:



The first part is quite steep as can be seen from the fence at the side. As an example I can only just get my Saab estate over the top, it's mm away from scraping the exhaust when reversing on. The sloped bit is concrete, cracked and generally st. The flat bit is paving slabs, uneven, cracked and generally st.

I had wanted imprinted concrete but going off the slippy comments I think its a very bad idea with the slope, even if it wears off after a few years, also worried about the drainage element. We then thought about block paving but again with the slope I'm worried about it cracking/moving. Gravel is a none starter. Wife doesn't like tarmac. Which only leaves this resin bonded stuff, which I really like, will it work on the slope/flat transition?

The house had drainage issues on the front corner a few years ago and the subsequently all the drains were ripped out and replaced, there are now a few man holes along the drive, I presume these are just accounted for in the resin bonded stuff and not sealed over?
Just had a quote for the resin bonded stuff on this...

Works out at 54sq/m. That's from the top of the drive all the way down the side of the house to the garden at the back, 3 manholes and the path across the front of the house. Guy said however that there is only actually 15sq/m that they would excavate down 7-8 inches and that's the section at the bottom of the slope going back to the gates half way down the drive. His reasoning for this was that the steep section is concrete, sturdy and could be laid on top of. The path and the rest of the side would however only ever have foot traffic and so again could be laid straight onto the existing paving. The bit at the bottom of the slope will have a car on it and so needs to be done properly.

He started at £4500, this came down to £3950 if we went for it straight away although he'll hold that price, if not come down more I reckon!

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

248 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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FlipFlopGriff said:
Herbs said:
Yes - I looked into this and nearly had a heart attack at the cost. After pricing up a drive and garden path, I decided i'll get the garden path done at a later date as the cost came out at £400 just for the sett's for a 4m*1m path .
Last for ever though. Did you infill the gaps with tar or concrete?
FFG
Granite setts are individually bedded, normally nowadays with concrete.

swisstoni

16,980 posts

279 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Maty said:
Just had a quote for the resin bonded stuff on this...

Works out at 54sq/m. That's from the top of the drive all the way down the side of the house to the garden at the back, 3 manholes and the path across the front of the house. Guy said however that there is only actually 15sq/m that they would excavate down 7-8 inches and that's the section at the bottom of the slope going back to the gates half way down the drive. His reasoning for this was that the steep section is concrete, sturdy and could be laid on top of. The path and the rest of the side would however only ever have foot traffic and so again could be laid straight onto the existing paving. The bit at the bottom of the slope will have a car on it and so needs to be done properly.

He started at £4500, this came down to £3950 if we went for it straight away although he'll hold that price, if not come down more I reckon!
Get more quotes. Always suspicious of the 'if you act fast' malarkey.

Maty

1,233 posts

213 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Without a doubt...just wondered as that works out at £73sq/m so is that in line with average costs etc?

Nuisance_Value

721 posts

253 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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ATTAK Z said:
1200 mm

about £44.00/m2 including excavation, geotextile membrane, sub base and 35 mm surfacing
That's a great m2 rate, but of course a massive quantity. I'll be needing somewhere around 140m2 eventually so I'm interested to see other posters info if they don't mind.

Only thing is, not sure on the surface finish. I like the exposed aggregate on concrete as above but unfortunately need the permeability.

mikef

4,870 posts

251 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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swisstoni said:
Maty said:
Just had a quote for the resin bonded stuff on this...

Works out at 54sq/m. That's from the top of the drive all the way down the side of the house to the garden at the back, 3 manholes and the path across the front of the house. Guy said however that there is only actually 15sq/m that they would excavate down 7-8 inches and that's the section at the bottom of the slope going back to the gates half way down the drive. His reasoning for this was that the steep section is concrete, sturdy and could be laid on top of. The path and the rest of the side would however only ever have foot traffic and so again could be laid straight onto the existing paving. The bit at the bottom of the slope will have a car on it and so needs to be done properly.

He started at £4500, this came down to £3950 if we went for it straight away although he'll hold that price, if not come down more I reckon!
Get more quotes. Always suspicious of the 'if you act fast' malarkey.
And ask to see local jobs they have already completed. Look how smooth the finish is; if you can see ripples or joins (shining a torch low over the surface at night will show up an uneven surface) then suspect a rushed job

Yazar

1,476 posts

120 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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swisstoni said:
Maty said:
Just had a quote for the resin bonded stuff on this...

Works out at 54sq/m. That's from the top of the drive all the way down the side of the house to the garden at the back, 3 manholes and the path across the front of the house. Guy said however that there is only actually 15sq/m that they would excavate down 7-8 inches and that's the section at the bottom of the slope going back to the gates half way down the drive. His reasoning for this was that the steep section is concrete, sturdy and could be laid on top of. The path and the rest of the side would however only ever have foot traffic and so again could be laid straight onto the existing paving. The bit at the bottom of the slope will have a car on it and so needs to be done properly.

He started at £4500, this came down to £3950 if we went for it straight away although he'll hold that price, if not come down more I reckon!
+1 I'd move on to someone who didn't have the sales spiel.

Get more quotes. Always suspicious of the 'if you act fast' malarkey.

dave4959

173 posts

192 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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I did mine last month in block paving around 80m2 including path around the front for the house

Break down as follows

16 tonne Dolomite £14 per tonne + vat
8 tonne sharp sand £28 per tonne + vat
1 tonne 10mm gravel £28 per tonne + vat (for cement)

£535 including vat

Blocks

£10.20 per square metre from doves

£816 +£5 delivery

Hire of digger 2 days
Whacker 1 week
Cement mixer 1 week

Around £280 ish for all 3

Garage drain and pipe work £62ish with trade card at b&q

2no 8 yard skips at £190 each

1 tonne of sharp sand extra cost £54 as the original order ran short so had to get it from Jewsons

Sand for joints 6 bags £31 total at wickes (needed it on a Sunday)

8 bags cement at £3.50 each as were on offer at wickes

+ labour to excavate and lay it

Prices are north east England and I work in construction so had a few contacts.

Damp Logs

732 posts

134 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Maty said:
Just had a quote for the resin bonded stuff on this...

Works out at 54sq/m. That's from the top of the drive all the way down the side of the house to the garden at the back, 3 manholes and the path across the front of the house. Guy said however that there is only actually 15sq/m that they would excavate down 7-8 inches and that's the section at the bottom of the slope going back to the gates half way down the drive. His reasoning for this was that the steep section is concrete, sturdy and could be laid on top of. The path and the rest of the side would however only ever have foot traffic and so again could be laid straight onto the existing paving. The bit at the bottom of the slope will have a car on it and so needs to be done properly.

He started at £4500, this came down to £3950 if we went for it straight away although he'll hold that price, if not come down more I reckon!
Can I ask the name of the firm that you used?

Thanks

jon-

16,509 posts

216 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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Elli5 said:
JQ said:
ATTAK Z said:
This stuff is good

http://www.kbiuk.co.uk/
I like that. Expensive?
I like that too, so much so that I have just had one of their sales guys come over to measure up and discuss the product.

First impressions are promising, the chap who measured up was knowledgeable and extremely helpful. No idea what the quote will come back at so watch this space.

Thanks for posting up the link!
Anything ever come of this Elli5?

jon-

16,509 posts

216 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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Buuummmmppppppppppppppp

sak83

97 posts

189 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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Bump from me too, i'm looking into sorting my driveway out. Currently consists of bumpy crazy paving.

I've been doing lots of reading on paving expert. I'm looking for some form of dark paving flags. Can anyone recommend some?

eltax91

Original Poster:

9,870 posts

206 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Bit of a conclusion from the thread from me. I've had a quote of just under £5k for my 65 sqm, for pattern imprinted concrete, which I have decided to go for. The price was £70 a sqm, plus some additional costs for tree removal and fitting new drains.

The wife has opted for a cobblestone affect with a border around the edge.

This is not the standard 1st gen imprinting, this is a new one with a MUCH gripper finish. I went to see a completed job yesterday and the surface felt like sandpaper to the touch. The area guy for stencil tech came along with samples of both types of finish and the new stuff is similarly priced but much grippier

I will post photos when it's completed.

eliot

11,423 posts

254 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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As the surface is monolithic, consider putting some ducting or large PVC pipe from the house to the end of the drive. You never know when you might need cctv, electric gates, entry sensors, new phone line etc etc.

jon-

16,509 posts

216 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Look forward to photos

JQ

5,740 posts

179 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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jon- said:
Look forward to photos
Same here.

eltax91

Original Poster:

9,870 posts

206 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Hi guys

Finally after many weather interruptions the job is now finished. The total cost was under £5k, and we had 68 sq. metres coverage in the end. Have to say, the surface is NOT SLIPPY at all. The "spray" coast is mixed with a fast setting concrete so it is rough and raised from the "grout lines" (which are essentially bare concrete.

Overall, the finish looks a bit fake, but I don't mind that at all, since it essentially is! Overall I'm really pleased with the finish. For reference this is NOT imprinted concrete, but STENCILED. The UK provider is called Stencil Tech and my guy is the local agent.

Pictures here:-

https://www.dropbox.com/sc/2qm5z1beq8ttvfa/AACEo-Y...