tvr grantura help needed

tvr grantura help needed

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MORTIMER84

Original Poster:

33 posts

117 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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hello. i am new here, yesterday appears a tvr grantura in my way, there is one that need soo much work.

I have some cuestions because i don't know to buy it.

The first one, the chassis number, i see five numbers? its that ok?

the other cuestions are if its difficult to find pieces,
what model will be this one,
and how you see the restoration, its possible??

the car is at spain, and is left hand drive.
don't have a lot of pieces, back window, windows, lights...

thanks. i post the photos here








heightswitch

6,316 posts

249 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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Its a TVR 1800s
You can get all the bits to restore
They are bonded to the Chassis so are a little more complex to restore

if you can buy it then my advice is to buy it.

N.

prideaux

4,969 posts

148 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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heightswitch said:
Its a TVR 1800s
You can get all the bits to restore
They are bonded to the Chassis so are a little more complex to restore

if you can buy it then my advice is to buy it.

N.
yes
A

MORTIMER84

Original Poster:

33 posts

117 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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but the first problem, its the serial number, the chassis number complete, maybe i dont have any posibility to know were was the plate of the car, i am triing to know if the car was registered in spain, the number is not so clear, someone knows the secuence
i think this one is 180XX but maybe 190XX

Grantura MKI

817 posts

157 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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Chassis number should start with 18@@@ the 18 makes it a MGB powered TVR.
Cheers,
D.

MORTIMER84

Original Poster:

33 posts

117 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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many thanks,one person said to me that the number was incompleet, now i am going to the spanish register to se if there is something here

prideaux

4,969 posts

148 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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It looks very genuine in all fairness no one would go to that much bother to fake a restoration project like that IMOP But good to do as much research as possible try contacting the TVRCC Club as Richard Sales who is in charge of the club historic records may be able to help what documents does the seller have with the car as the more you have the better once restored a real find and great to see cars appearing like this
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Slow M

2,726 posts

205 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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I like the look of that project.

Best,
B.

teverero

35 posts

136 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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It looks like an interesting project....plenty of work to do
Based on the info received from Spain, the VIN 18/0xx , reveals a later car ( 66/67) 1800s mk IV
However, the dashboaed configuration looks like a mk III model ( with the vin sqtarting with 65/5/......). Nevertheless, I have seen some mkIV examples ( also on the register) that do have a mk3 dash and viceversa.
Have a good look at the difficult to source parts ( if available) such as, rain gutters, door frames, door hinges and lock mechanisms, lock barrel, etc.....the rest is easy
Good luck !

GTRene

16,372 posts

223 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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what does a vixen s1 mgb starts with?

the dash looks a bit strange?

LHD is good biggrin but lots of work to do.

bluezeeland

1,965 posts

158 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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Bl**dy nice barn find ! Congrats !

It will be a lot of work, the rebuild will also be fun ! DO IT !

Grantura MKI

817 posts

157 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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GTRene said:
what does a vixen s1 mgb starts with?

the dash looks a bit strange?

LHD is good biggrin but lots of work to do.
VX ????? For SI
LVX ????? For SII
Dash/ fascia is the same as a Griffith.
Best,
D.

MORTIMER84

Original Poster:

33 posts

117 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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thanks, today i know if they accept my offer, if the offer is accepted take the car to home and start, i am going to do a lot of cuestions hehe, if i buy it i will contact with the person you said and for all of you i will ask for information, mounting schematics and that information,
yesterday i was saying, i am not going to buy more things, no more cars, last friday i buy a car to a friend and near the car was a motorbike and i buy it for me hehe

i tell you something of the buy maybe today and if i take to my house more photos. crossing my fingers!!

prideaux

4,969 posts

148 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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MORTIMER84 said:
thanks, today i know if they accept my offer, if the offer is accepted take the car to home and start, i am going to do a lot of cuestions hehe, if i buy it i will contact with the person you said and for all of you i will ask for information, mounting schematics and that information,
yesterday i was saying, i am not going to buy more things, no more cars, last friday i buy a car to a friend and near the car was a motorbike and i buy it for me hehe

i tell you something of the buy maybe today and if i take to my house more photos. crossing my fingers!!
Well we will look forward to your replies and news and reports just make sure you start and finish i think for all the projects that we seem to see being sold the number of cars finished in the same period of time is very small in comparison.
So as they say on matermind i have started so i will finish hehe
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GTRene

16,372 posts

223 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Grantura MKI said:
GTRene said:
what does a vixen s1 mgb starts with?

the dash looks a bit strange?

LHD is good biggrin but lots of work to do.
VX ????? For SI
LVX ????? For SII
Dash/ fascia is the same as a Griffith.
Best,
D.
ah, I see now, thx.

cantus

922 posts

251 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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I should say..................Buy it !!!!!!!!!

Slow M

2,726 posts

205 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Good luck!

Best,
B.

Thurner Fan

98 posts

154 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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MORTIMER84 said:
but the first problem, its the serial number, the chassis number complete, maybe i dont have any posibility to know were was the plate of the car, i am triing to know if the car was registered in spain, the number is not so clear, someone knows the secuence
i think this one is 180XX but maybe 190XX
To maybe help you with the chassis number, according to the books I've read, if the number is 18/026 or lower then it would probably have left the factory badged as a Grantura 1800S (also known sometimes as a 'Grantura MkIII 1800S').

Conversely, if the number is 18/045 or higher then it would probably have been a Grantura MkIV 1800S.

If the chassis number is 18/027 to 18/044 then it could be either as the chassis numbers for the two models were intermingled for a while.

I have a record of 18/005, 18/006, 18/008, 18/010 being last known of in Spain so I wonder if it might be one of those.

Incidentally, just in case you were thinking about ever racing a Grantura in FIA Appendix K events, it is apparently quite possible that the 1800S chassis will soon be outlawed for such events.

TF





Edited by Thurner Fan on Sunday 6th July 09:30


Edited by Thurner Fan on Sunday 10th August 23:38

intermediate

176 posts

224 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Incidentally, just in case you were thinking about ever racing a Grantura in FIA Appendix K events, it is apparently quite possible that the 1800S chassis will soon be outlawed for such events.

do you have more info on this?
jw

Thurner Fan

98 posts

154 months

Saturday 28th June 2014
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intermediate said:
Incidentally, just in case you were thinking about ever racing a Grantura in FIA Appendix K events, it is apparently quite possible that the 1800S chassis will soon be outlawed for such events.

do you have more info on this?
jw
Not really for this thread but what I've heard is that the FIA have recently had it pointed out to them that TVR slightly modified the Grantura MkIII chassis for production of the Grantura 1800S, the Kamm-tailed version in late 1964. They did this to allow them to use a common chassis to build both Granturas and Griffiths. By making the top engine rails run parallel rather than tapering toward the bulkhead they created more space to allow the Griffith's V8 engine to fit and they also carried out some slight repositioning/reshaping of some other tubes to allow them to get the gearbox in and provide adequate strength. These modifications and what gave rise to them are documented on page 175 of Peter Filby's 2010 book "TVR : The Early Years".

No changes were made to any of the suspension pickup points or the position of the wheels, as compared to the standard Grantura MkIII chassis. However, I have heard that the FIA bods may decide that the chassis change constitutes a material enough difference to prevent the future issue of HTPs for the Kamm-tailed cars.

The problem for many existing round-tailed Grantura MkIII racers might prove to be that until very recently the only available replacement chassis for those with irreparable crash damage has been the 1800S version, due to a single source situation. Thus, many existing round-tailed Grantura MkIII race cars have been built around what is actually the 1800S chassis. Of course, having a valid FIA-issued HTP is not actually required for many of the popular race series currently favoured by Grantura racers and so it may not be an issue for many of them.