E30 M3 prices

[sjb1970]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321728593931?_trksid=p20...

Strong money for a car with a non original engine and let's face it probably a few gaps in the service history or car's history itself... honest enough ad though and looks to be done well enough. Apart from the dash clocks. Nice early car though. The seats appear to be from a sport although in my stash of period mags some early cars do have seats with the stitching running in that direction ?

Edited by sjb1970 on Friday 24th April 10:20

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111592763485?_trksid=p20...

£130k > £110k > £100k.... the moment it drops to £30k I'll be on it like a pig in st !

Edited by sjb1970 on Friday 24th April 10:38

[e21Mark]

sjb1970 said:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321728593931?_trksid=p20...

Strong money for a car with a non original engine and let's face it probably a few gaps in the service history or car's history itself... honest enough ad though and looks to be done well enough. Apart from the dash clocks. Nice early car though. The seats appear to be from a sport although in my stash of period mags some early cars do have seats with the stitching running in that direction ?

Edited by sjb1970 on Friday 24th April 10:20

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111592763485?_trksid=p20...

£130k > £110k > £100k.... the moment it drops to £30k I'll be on it like a pig in st !

Edited by sjb1970 on Friday 24th April 10:38

The interior on the first car is bloody awful, as are the wheels. I've never liked red piping!

I wonder if the original engine is included? Is it really more than £4.5k for a crank re grind and shells?

[sjb1970]

Aren't the wheels those £350 a set eBay specials ?! At least it comes with the original ones. It's obviously had a bid or two retracted, £24.5k yesterday and now back down to £17.5k..
Can't really imagine why they chose to go that route with the engine, probably doesn't come with the original one if it's not mentioned, and if it's a cecotto motor then it'll be painted in cecotto colours ;-)

[Schermerhorn]

Don't E30 M3's come with the basketweave wheels?

[E30M3SE]

Should do. But they're not the original wheels.

[E30M3SE]

e21Mark said:

e21Mark said:

E30M3SE said:

warsteiner///M3 said:

e21Mark said:

e21Mark said:

Evidently there is some question over this cars past history. There are some decidedly dodgy bits, such as the wood screws holding parts of the under dash trim in place, plus the engine bay looks pretty tatty in places. The advert isn't the best either.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEFT-HAND-DRIVE-BMW-E30-...

Found the original advert from a few weeks ago, when it was more sensibly priced.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C569200#

and it seems to have lost a few mile's.......

Lost it's 'split rims & front fog lights' too.

Seller reckons it's now sold for asking price and awaiting collection. I asked about the mileage etc and that was their response.

Back up for sale again.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1992-J-BMW-E30-M3-2-3-LH...

..... and again.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1992-J-BMW-E30-M3-2-3-LH...

[e21Mark]

E30M3SE said:

e21Mark said:

e21Mark said:

E30M3SE said:

warsteiner///M3 said:

e21Mark said:

e21Mark said:

Evidently there is some question over this cars past history. There are some decidedly dodgy bits, such as the wood screws holding parts of the under dash trim in place, plus the engine bay looks pretty tatty in places. The advert isn't the best either.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEFT-HAND-DRIVE-BMW-E30-...

Found the original advert from a few weeks ago, when it was more sensibly priced.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C569200#

and it seems to have lost a few mile's.......

Lost it's 'split rims & front fog lights' too.

Seller reckons it's now sold for asking price and awaiting collection. I asked about the mileage etc and that was their response.

Back up for sale again.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1992-J-BMW-E30-M3-2-3-LH...

..... and again.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1992-J-BMW-E30-M3-2-3-LH...

You have to wonder why the seller wouldn't bother finishing jobs like the fog lights? Or why you'd re fit a cracked windscreen? How the hell does that car equate to being immaculate, when there are wood screws holding the interior trim in place?

[e21Mark]

sjb1970 said:

Aren't the wheels those £350 a set eBay specials ?! At least it comes with the original ones. It's obviously had a bid or two retracted, £24.5k yesterday and now back down to £17.5k..
Can't really imagine why they chose to go that route with the engine, probably doesn't come with the original one if it's not mentioned, and if it's a cecotto motor then it'll be painted in cecotto colours ;-)

Made £21 600, which seems fair money for an ex track day car with a non original engine, ugly interior and cheap wheels. Is it my eyesight or are the tyres incorrectly fitted too?

[sjb1970]

£21,600 reserve not met though! Odometer shows 206k ad states 110k
Yes front offside tyre is surely fitted the in wrong direction I'm sure the others will be!!
Nice car with a few alterations but the sellers are being a tad optimistic !

[sjb1970]

Now up on pistonheads for £25k. Mileage now stated as 125.000

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...

[e21Mark]

sjb1970 said:

Now up on pistonheads for £25k. Mileage now stated as 125.000

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...

So they sold the original engine, that could have been sorted for about £1200, then spent £4500 on a replacement? I'm surprised they went to the effort of repainting the cam cover, yet left the red clocks and piped leather.

Edited by e21Mark on Monday 4th May 19:41

[Schermerhorn]

Did someone buy it and then found out it's a lemon and are trying to get shut of it?

[sjb1970]

Schermerhorn said:

Did someone buy it and then found out it's a lemon and are trying to get shut of it?

I'm guessing it didn't make the (slightly optimistic) reserve so the sellers are now on here...
I think the car appears to be a solid honest car if you know your stuff but there's a few too many little minus points as mentioned before to make this car worth top dollar. Probably a classic case of the seller bought it for £6000, spent that again on it, has seen the prices of good cars and expects that. Trouble is even if you sort the seats, the dash and the wheels (originals now not included) you still have a car with a non original engine - 40K???? doesn't look a low miler, original not supplied which is the biggest issue IMO, no mention of a full and correct service history and thus far 3 different mileages stated!
I think £21,600 was a fair price and if it was a genuine bid then they should have bit their arm off.
Still an early car on a 'D' plate though, shame it's missing a few vital points.

Edited by sjb1970 on Tuesday 5th May 09:03

[e21Mark]

Given the points that are wrong with it, I think £21 600 is just about on the money. Had it been mine, I would have kept hold of the original engine and wheels. You could probably dye the red piping black and sort those awful red clocks out.

[E30M3SE]

It's not just the piping on the seats though, they are trimmed incorrectly, stitching goes north-south as standard E30 sport leather seats, not east-west as it should on E30 M3 seats.

[e21Mark]

E30M3SE said:

It's not just the piping on the seats though, they are trimmed incorrectly, stitching goes north-south as standard E30 sport leather seats, not east-west as it should on E30 M3 seats.

Yes, you're right, but losing the red bits would at least be a step in the right direction and cheap to do.

There's an ex track Evo 2 available in silver. It's sat around for a while but runs, drives and is pretty solid. It has bucket seats though, cage and non stock wheels and brakes. Evidently the chap who told me about it, was offered it for £15-20k and wondered if it was worth the asking price? I suggested he grab it while he can. I was surprised just how many other forum members felt it was overpriced though. Mainly down to the cost of returning it to stock. It would break for more than the asking price surely?

[Schermerhorn]

Sounds like the sort of project I would enjoy, with my OCD and all that!

I'd try and make it look like one of those Sports Evo, black, red 'pin stripes' and shaded basketweaves. Maybe stick a spoiler on the back too. Or have it all in reverse. Yummy

[EvoIV NL]

e21 said:

There's an ex track Evo 2 available in silver. It's sat around for a while but runs, drives and is pretty solid. It has bucket seats though, cage and non stock wheels and brakes. Evidently the chap who told me about it, was offered it for £15-20k and wondered if it was worth the asking price? I suggested he grab it while he can. I was surprised just how many other forum members felt it was overpriced though. Mainly down to the cost of returning it to stock. It would break for more than the asking price surely?

There is some truth to that though - i picked up a M3 rolling shell recently for a fraction of the price of that car and it came with some very good bits. My shell and the car you mention would end up costing ALOT to restore it to original (that may not even be possible given how hard it is to find certain parts) and would be more cost effective to simply pay more and get a proper original example if thats what you ultimately want. If however you want to keep it as a track car then there is some different maths involved.

I guess I am saying that as a track car that is a good price at £15k. If you are looking at it as an investment or a resto project it may not add up.

[e21Mark]

I think it would be ok if you took your time over it and waited for parts to come along, rather than paying through the nose to get them quickly. That said, I'd be more inclined to keep it 'as is' and just make sure it's mechanically perfect and free from corrosion. Even at £20k, I doubt there's a cheaper way into an Evo M3.

[benny.c]

It's probably worth around that but you'd have to accept that you may never get the parts to complete it, or that they'll cost a fortune. My Evo II came with the wrong interior but I was very, very fortunate that a BMW Car Club owner had purchased a spare interior from a scrapper and he was looking to move it on. IIRC he was only willing to sell it to someone with a genuine need for it.

Missing wheels probably aren't that much of a concern but the interior would be a worry. Has it still got the correct rear spoiler as they are NLA and rare as rocking horse poo. That said, there were recently two for sale on S14.net, the first I've seen for years. 1,250 Euro with a front lip.

At less than £20K it's probably worth a punt if it's clean.