ebola, anyone else mildly terrified?

ebola, anyone else mildly terrified?

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Gretchen

19,036 posts

216 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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QuantumTokoloshi said:
I have been talking to a good friend of the doctor,now deceased, who treated the Liberian parient in Nigeria. A very close run thing for Nigeria. The Liberian, was the son of an ex president of liberia, and diplomatic pressure was brought on her to release him. Which she resisted
And stopped. It was during this episode and his violent reaction to it, that she got infected.

Hearing the families experience from a close friend was shocking, imagine having to check your children, every few hours to see if they have a raised temperature and probably will go on to die if they do, sounds soul destroying. All this after their mother had already died.

The friend is also a doctor, and he made no mistake, he was petrified of this disease having seen how his colleague died from it.
When you say 'talking' you covered your mouth and washed your hands and wiped the keyboard and monitor after, right?


QuantumTokoloshi

4,162 posts

217 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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No, I am in Lagos at the moment, I do business with his family, known them for 8 or 9 years.

Edited by QuantumTokoloshi on Thursday 30th October 12:15

B17NNS

18,506 posts

247 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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QuantumTokoloshi said:
No, I am in Lagos at the moment,
Not for all the tea in Tesco.

QuantumTokoloshi

4,162 posts

217 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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B17NNS said:
Not for all the tea in Tesco.
Come on down, weather is beautiful, sunny and warm, perfect pool weather.

I find it worrying, when people on here demonstrate an almost arrogant disregard for this disease. When you speak to a doctor, of many years experience, who has direct experience of the disease, his view does not hold that same hubris, in fact it is fear, mixed with a weary admiration for this organism.

Nigeria has dodged a catastrophe here. The one useful side effect of this, is the huge improvement in the immigration procedures now, it can almost be described as moderately efficient now.



2013BRM

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39,731 posts

284 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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As Richard Preston said in his summary, it doesn't go away, merely hibernates till the next time when it'll be stronger, unless we eradicate it we are in for a nasty surprise

hidetheelephants

24,316 posts

193 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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2013BRM said:
As Richard Preston said in his summary, it doesn't go away, merely hibernates till the next time when it'll be stronger, unless we eradicate it we are in for a nasty surprise
Not practical really; it exists in animal carriers in the wild and short of killing every monkey(not very green) or vaccinating all of them(not very practical) in Africa how do you get rid?

Mr Whippy

29,029 posts

241 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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hidetheelephants said:
2013BRM said:
As Richard Preston said in his summary, it doesn't go away, merely hibernates till the next time when it'll be stronger, unless we eradicate it we are in for a nasty surprise
Not practical really; it exists in animal carriers in the wild and short of killing every monkey(not very green) or vaccinating all of them(not very practical) in Africa how do you get rid?
Orbit, nuke, only way to be sure, etc.

otolith

56,091 posts

204 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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hidetheelephants said:
Not practical really; it exists in animal carriers in the wild and short of killing every monkey(not very green) or vaccinating all of them(not very practical) in Africa how do you get rid?
Worse than that, it's believed that the natural host is fruit bats. They live in colonies which can contain literally millions of animals, they migrate distances of up to 2500km and you can't go wiping them out because they are important pollinators of plants.

2013BRM

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39,731 posts

284 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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yup, the perfect host

soad

32,894 posts

176 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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How did fruit bats get it then? ears

Why nothing of this sort originates from say, South America's jungle or Australian bush?
Afterall, they got all sorts of deadly nasties (spiders, scorpions and snakes etc).

otolith

56,091 posts

204 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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There are loads of nasty zoonotic viruses. They just don't often break into humans.

soad

32,894 posts

176 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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otolith said:
There are loads of nasty zoonotic viruses. They just don't often break into humans.
I'll do some reading, cheers. type

dudleybloke

19,819 posts

186 months

tonyvid

9,869 posts

243 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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dudleybloke said:
There is a lot of scary stuff out there yikes

chris1roll

1,697 posts

244 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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I'll just leave this here. Hopefully some will donate.

I've just given the same as I was going to spend on shooting this weekend. If we all do similar we could do some good.

Link to DEC appeal


B17NNS

18,506 posts

247 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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chris1roll said:
I'll just leave this here. Hopefully some will donate.

I've just given the same as I was going to spend on shooting this weekend. If we all do similar we could do some good.

Link to DEC appeal
They might do a bit better if they weren't so greedy.

chris1roll

1,697 posts

244 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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rolleyes

thehawk

9,335 posts

207 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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Colonial said:
Interesting. Wasn't aware of that.

You got a link? Not disbelief, just genuine interest.
http://www.onislam.net/english/news/africa/476119-muslims-cautioned-against-washing-ebola-dead.html

otolith

56,091 posts

204 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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Islamic burial rituals are definitely a problem when someone has died of Ebola. Sierra Leone is predominantly Muslim, but Liberia is only about 12% - unfortunately, there are other traditional burial practices which are also risky.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

225 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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chris1roll said:
I'll just leave this here. Hopefully some will donate.

I've just given the same as I was going to spend on shooting this weekend. If we all do similar we could do some good.

Link to DEC appeal
Already donated to Medecins Sans Frontieres a while back. On the basis that MSF have the most experience in dealing with ebola. They have been on the ground since the start of the outbreak and they are the most successful at treating it (their treatment centers have the highest recovery rate). They also have no political agenda unlike some of the DEC members,