ebola, anyone else mildly terrified?

[moanthebairns]

Mr Whippy said:

moanthebairns said:

superkartracer said:

Thankyou4calling said:

Mr Whippy]eeDubBigBird said:

Given the number of deaths by road accidents in the UK alone is more than half of Ebola each year, how worried are you about going to work ?/quote]

But road deaths don't double up and double up in an exponential trend.

Ebola at the last check was doing so I think. I've not seen the latest numbers but there is a good chance by Christmas it'll be 10x more risky than driving on the UK roads, then by March it'll be 20x more risky, and so on.

Dave

But it won't be.

The fact that there is no outbreak in London shows how hard it is to catch.

Lets see how that plays out when there are 500, 000 infected ( like people said a month or so ago

each year 443,000 people die prematurely from smoking. Yet I still smoke.

I cannot for the life of me get even a little bit frightened by ebola, it has effectively killed off a decent attendance at a Scottish football match in a country where many would die from the sts anyway.

I cannot see it spreading like the Spanish flu. Even if it does I'll be ok, I'm a white 27 year old male with perfect health. Bring it on, "work I wont be in today, I have ebola I'm away to watch the entire boxset of breaking bad, drink lucozade and eat ste, see you Monday".

Whilst I agree with the general sentiment, being foolhardy in the face of something that can infect you very easily IF you are exposed, and has a 25%+ mortality rate isn't exactly sensible either.

While the gradients keep rising the risks keep rising. If they were steady or dropping, great, a positive sign. But they're not, and while they don't it's likely by this time next year we'll be at 10 million dead.

Dave

It has a 25 per cent mortality rate, see this is the thing, the control samples probably had underlying health issues, and lets face it poor living condition's with poor access to health care and little education.

I do feel pity for those having their life torn apart by this, but its simply the cruelty of nature acting as it has done for millions of years. It's evolution at work.

[superkartracer]

moanthebairns said:

superkartracer said:

Thankyou4calling said:

Mr Whippy]eeDubBigBird said:

Given the number of deaths by road accidents in the UK alone is more than half of Ebola each year, how worried are you about going to work ?/quote]

But road deaths don't double up and double up in an exponential trend.

Ebola at the last check was doing so I think. I've not seen the latest numbers but there is a good chance by Christmas it'll be 10x more risky than driving on the UK roads, then by March it'll be 20x more risky, and so on.

Dave

But it won't be.

The fact that there is no outbreak in London shows how hard it is to catch.

Lets see how that plays out when there are 500, 000 infected ( like people said a month or so ago

each year 443,000 people die prematurely from smoking. Yet I still smoke.

Well done.

Now back to Ebola -

The toll in the Ebola epidemic has risen to 5,420 deaths out of 15,145 cases in eight countries, the World Health Organization (WHO) said on Wednesday, with transmission of the deadly virus was still "intense and widespread".

The figures, through Nov. 16, represent a jump of 243 deaths and 732 cases since those issued last Friday, and cases continue to be under-reported, the WHO said in its latest update.


Those numbers are most prob x2.5, all from a base of 1 over a small timeframe in a not so density populated area. This Bio 4 level virus has not gone away and is getting worse, if and when it does hit a density populated area things will become very different.

The mortally rate is 50-70%//

[Mr Whippy]

moanthebairns said:

Mr Whippy said:

moanthebairns said:

superkartracer said:

Thankyou4calling said:

Mr Whippy]eeDubBigBird said:

Given the number of deaths by road accidents in the UK alone is more than half of Ebola each year, how worried are you about going to work ?/quote]

But road deaths don't double up and double up in an exponential trend.

Ebola at the last check was doing so I think. I've not seen the latest numbers but there is a good chance by Christmas it'll be 10x more risky than driving on the UK roads, then by March it'll be 20x more risky, and so on.

Dave

But it won't be.

The fact that there is no outbreak in London shows how hard it is to catch.

Lets see how that plays out when there are 500, 000 infected ( like people said a month or so ago

each year 443,000 people die prematurely from smoking. Yet I still smoke.

I cannot for the life of me get even a little bit frightened by ebola, it has effectively killed off a decent attendance at a Scottish football match in a country where many would die from the sts anyway.

I cannot see it spreading like the Spanish flu. Even if it does I'll be ok, I'm a white 27 year old male with perfect health. Bring it on, "work I wont be in today, I have ebola I'm away to watch the entire boxset of breaking bad, drink lucozade and eat ste, see you Monday".

Whilst I agree with the general sentiment, being foolhardy in the face of something that can infect you very easily IF you are exposed, and has a 25%+ mortality rate isn't exactly sensible either.

While the gradients keep rising the risks keep rising. If they were steady or dropping, great, a positive sign. But they're not, and while they don't it's likely by this time next year we'll be at 10 million dead.

Dave

It has a 25 per cent mortality rate, see this is the thing, the control samples probably had underlying health issues, and lets face it poor living condition's with poor access to health care and little education.

I do feel pity for those having their life torn apart by this, but its simply the cruelty of nature acting as it has done for millions of years. It's evolution at work.

Well lets hope you don't have an unknown underlying health issue that you're unaware of that Ebola could take extra advantage of if you catch it

[Thankyou4calling]

superkartracer said:

Lets see how that plays out when there are 500, 000 infected ( like people said a month or so ago

I hope you are winding us up. There won't be a tenth of that number infected, and in the west, apart from those who caught it in Africa and carry it back ( that'll be about ten) there won't be any.

It's pretty obvious that despite the best efforts of those with a vested interest in promoting the illness it isn't turning out to be quite what the media led us to believe.

Time to move on to another.

[moanthebairns]

What I want to know is what is sent in the aid parcels?

I have never seen one that featured bottles of lucozade, tissues, a hot water bottle and haribo.

How do they expect to fight disease without the above.

[superkartracer]

Thankyou4calling said:

superkartracer said:

Lets see how that plays out when there are 500, 000 infected ( like people said a month or so ago

I hope you are winding us up. There won't be a tenth of that number infected, and in the west, apart from those who caught it in Africa and carry it back ( that'll be about ten) there won't be any.

It's pretty obvious that despite the best efforts of those with a vested interest in promoting the illness it isn't turning out to be quite what the media led us to believe.

Time to move on to another.

The number of Ebola cases in West Africa could swell to 1.4 million by mid-January if the epidemic is not contained and the wide-scale response does not continue, according to new estimates released Tuesday by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/su6303a1....

The epidemic is NOT being contained.

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/outbreaks/2014-west-a...

Edited by superkartracer on Thursday 20th November 15:21

[Mr Whippy]

You only need to plot the current growth curve, what is really happening, and by Christmas 2015 we could be looking at over 10,000,000 dead.

And as it gets worse it'll become increasingly bad in my view. Once the borders in Africa fail to be useful to help stop the spread from country to country it's be into cities like wildfire.


Not wishing to be inflammatory, I really hope it doesn't.


But hoping isn't gonna do anything. This is a real problem that is getting worse, and it'll get worse more quickly the worse it gets.


Really they should have stamped this out back in winter, it's at the point now where it's on a knife edge imo. We've sent all the aid/support we reasonably can and if it continues to spread at an increasing rate even with that aid then that is a very very bad sign


Dave

[2013BRM]

Thankyou4calling said:

I hope you are winding us up. There won't be a tenth of that number infected, and in the west, apart from those who caught it in Africa and carry it back ( that'll be about ten) there won't be any.

It's pretty obvious that despite the best efforts of those with a vested interest in promoting the illness it isn't turning out to be quite what the media led us to believe.

Time to move on to another.

who would that be then?

[geeeman]

further to my previous posts

it looks like a possible cure is on the horizon. While ozone therapy is still not widely recognised by mainstream medical community, it has some properties which drugs just cant match.

A doctor who suffered needle stick injury and then developed ebola symptoms, has recovered after ozone therapy. It would be beneficial if it could be used as an experimental treatment for now, as its track record of safety is extremely high for treating any other pathologies (i.e minimal or no side effects)

http://www.docrowen.com/ebola-cure-press-release.h...

[Grumfutock]

Two words, Plague, Madagascar!

[NicD]

Grumfutock said:

Two words, Plague, Madagascar!

I had missed this entirely - 40 dead with 119 people diagnosed with the bacterial disease since August.

[rich1231]

geeeman said:

further to my previous posts

it looks like a possible cure is on the horizon. While ozone therapy is still not widely recognised by mainstream medical community, it has some properties which drugs just cant match.

A doctor who suffered needle stick injury and then developed ebola symptoms, has recovered after ozone therapy. It would be beneficial if it could be used as an experimental treatment for now, as its track record of safety is extremely high for treating any other pathologies (i.e minimal or no side effects)

http://www.docrowen.com/ebola-cure-press-release.h...

That to put it bluntly is a load of bks.

[Grumfutock]

NicD said:

Grumfutock said:

Two words, Plague, Madagascar!

I had missed this entirely - 40 dead with 119 people diagnosed with the bacterial disease since August.

If we cant cure or eradicate something from the dark ages then we are all doomed!

[NicD]

Grumfutock said:

If we cant cure or eradicate something from the dark ages then we are all doomed!

If by 'we', you mean the entire human population, then you have a point, but 'we' are self destructive in some ways.

But even our NHS can control the plague in this country.

[geeeman]

rich1231 said:

geeeman said:

further to my previous posts

it looks like a possible cure is on the horizon. While ozone therapy is still not widely recognised by mainstream medical community, it has some properties which drugs just cant match.

A doctor who suffered needle stick injury and then developed ebola symptoms, has recovered after ozone therapy. It would be beneficial if it could be used as an experimental treatment for now, as its track record of safety is extremely high for treating any other pathologies (i.e minimal or no side effects)

http://www.docrowen.com/ebola-cure-press-release.h...

That to put it bluntly is a load of bks.

How can you be so bloody ignorant?!
They were invited to SL by the president himself to educate doctors in
the potental uses of ozone therapy.
( i know dr rowen personally and have trained with him in the US)

Edited by geeeman on Sunday 23 November 11:40

[Looket]

Grumfutock said:

Two words, Plague, Madagascar!

Impossible!

[Bill]

geeeman said:

How can you be so bloody ignorant?!
They were invited to SL by the president himself to educate doctors in
the potental uses of ozone therapy.
( i know dr rowen personally and have trained with him in the US)

It's utter horlicks. One alleged cure of an unproven case of Ebola. The president of SL is clutching at straws.

[Grumfutock]

NicD said:

If by 'we', you mean the entire human population, then you have a point, but 'we' are self destructive in some ways.

But even our NHS can control the plague in this country.

Yes by 'we' I mean as a species.

[rich1231]

geeeman said:

How can you be so bloody ignorant?!
They were invited to SL by the president himself to educate doctors in
the potental uses of ozone therapy.
( i know dr rowen personally and have trained with him in the US)

Edited by geeeman on Sunday 23 November 11:40

Ah I see, the president of SL is an authority on speculative bullst treatments of Ebola?

You know the Doctor personally? Wow that must make it genuine.

I have magic beans for you to buy.

[QuantumTokoloshi]

Good programme on ebola on discovery science at the moment.