What type of brake pipe fitting is this?
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Not sure if this is a compression fitting or what? It looks more like it might be flared in there. Sorry for the poor phone picture but it was hard to get in at.
Had the pipe replaced at a main dealer.. was expecting a factory bent line but could understand bending it as you go, it's easier, but not all that happy they haven't used one continuous length of pipe to the front. Or am I just being overly picky?
Had the pipe replaced at a main dealer.. was expecting a factory bent line but could understand bending it as you go, it's easier, but not all that happy they haven't used one continuous length of pipe to the front. Or am I just being overly picky?
It's one female and one male. One end is like you would tighten into your flexi, the other is a sort of 'nut'/'socket' for it to connect to by the looks. Does that make it a compression fitting or are there other types? I've only heard about compression and that in general you should just use one length..
t this isn't long enough.. oh well I'll just join it rather than doing it properly*jagracer said:
There's nothing wrong with joints although I like to keep them to a minimum as it's less to fail.
Isn't that rather contradictory when you then say?jagracer said:
As an MOT tester I would fail that but that's a subjective view.
There is nothing wrong with brake pipes being joined per se, as there is no fail criteria in the MOT that I know of for "joined brake pipes".On the other hand the way that the join is now resting is putting some tension on the pipe at its joined ends due to the fact that it is not completely in line with the pipe.
I would suggest that the garage has made the pipe in 2 halves for simplicity & then joined them & bent the area around the joint to its current angle, which is less than ideal.
That join is not up to main dealer standard, they could have done it properly using just one more 50p union and it would have taken no more time, ideally they would have used a single pipe.
Take your car back and ask for it to be done correctly, ie a proper joining piece as pictured above.
Take your car back and ask for it to be done correctly, ie a proper joining piece as pictured above.
Is the a copper pipe joined to a copper pipe?
I wouldn't dream of doing that to a customers car when replacing the brake pipes.
Onto a steel pipe maybe, or with a female joiner like linked above but definately not the OPs pic
I'd be back and complaining about that if it was my car, and certainly wouldn't expect that quality of a main dealer
I wouldn't dream of doing that to a customers car when replacing the brake pipes.
Onto a steel pipe maybe, or with a female joiner like linked above but definately not the OPs pic
I'd be back and complaining about that if it was my car, and certainly wouldn't expect that quality of a main dealer
andyiley said:
jagracer said:
There's nothing wrong with joints although I like to keep them to a minimum as it's less to fail.
Isn't that rather contradictory when you then say?jagracer said:
As an MOT tester I would fail that but that's a subjective view.
There is nothing wrong with brake pipes being joined per se, as there is no fail criteria in the MOT that I know of for "joined brake pipes".On the other hand the way that the join is now resting is putting some tension on the pipe at its joined ends due to the fact that it is not completely in line with the pipe.
I would suggest that the garage has made the pipe in 2 halves for simplicity & then joined them & bent the area around the joint to its current angle, which is less than ideal.
I think I should take my own advice and not get involved in other people's questions as there's always someone on PH that'll twist what another poster says.
Hope you get it sorted OP.
jagracer said:
There's nothing wrong with joints although I like to keep them to a minimum as it's less to fail. As an MOT tester I would fail that but that's a subjective view.
Pretty sure over here it would be a fail too.From what I understand, you're not allowed to do a copper/copper joint like that, there must be steel in the middle like you pictured.
Jagracer.
I 100& agree with keeping them to a minimum, ie. preferably zero. I have only ever joined 2 half pipes once in 30 odd years.
In your reply to my question you explained it with the use of the enhancement subjective, which I did not fully pick up on in your original post.
Sorry if you thought I was trying to twist your original reply around, that was not my intention, I was just trying to understand how you could say it is OK in one sentence & then fail it in another.
I 100& agree with keeping them to a minimum, ie. preferably zero. I have only ever joined 2 half pipes once in 30 odd years.
In your reply to my question you explained it with the use of the enhancement subjective, which I did not fully pick up on in your original post.
Sorry if you thought I was trying to twist your original reply around, that was not my intention, I was just trying to understand how you could say it is OK in one sentence & then fail it in another.
andyiley said:
Jagracer.
Sorry if you thought I was trying to twist your original reply around, that was not my intention, I was just trying to understand how you could say it is OK in one sentence & then fail it in another.
I'm a bit lost where we are now but just to be clear, I didn't say I have anything against joints in general, but the joint in the OP's original picture is, in my opinion, not fit for purpose. Sorry if you thought I was trying to twist your original reply around, that was not my intention, I was just trying to understand how you could say it is OK in one sentence & then fail it in another.
One other thing is that if it was done at the car manufactures franchised main dealer why didn't they use an OE pipe instead of the bodge job shown?
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