Review of Duggan inquest

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davidball

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731 posts

202 months

Wednesday 9th July 2014
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So the review of the inquest findings may be delayed due to holidays. How convenient. I would have thought that this question is too important to be delayed for such a trivial reason. I know many people who have worked over their holiday days for reasons of far less import.

Elroy Blue

8,687 posts

192 months

Wednesday 9th July 2014
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I know. It'll stop Michael Mansfield milking the case to get some extra cash.

Andehh

7,108 posts

206 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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I'm sorry, this strikes me as a matter of zero importance? How much longer does this need to be dragged on for?

A nasty bit of work got what he deserves. Open and shut case with society cheering from the stands!

Dan_1981

17,378 posts

199 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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Delayed due to holidays?

Whats the current weather forecast?

Hot summers days? Yup holidays is definitely why its been delayed.

Wait for the rain.

Lost soul

8,712 posts

182 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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Andehh said:
I'm sorry, this strikes me as a matter of zero importance? How much longer does this need to be dragged on for?

A nasty bit of work got what he deserves. Open and shut case with society cheering from the stands!
yes

Also if anyone seriously thinks a policeman would knowingly shoot an unarmed scrote they are delusional

pork911

7,125 posts

183 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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Lost soul said:
Andehh said:
I'm sorry, this strikes me as a matter of zero importance? How much longer does this need to be dragged on for?

A nasty bit of work got what he deserves. Open and shut case with society cheering from the stands!
yes

Also if anyone seriously thinks a policeman would knowingly shoot an unarmed scrote they are delusional
Since the shooter told the inquest he saw the gun in duggan's hand before both of his own two shots I'm surprised the inquest needed to hear any other evidence at all wink

Mr Taxpayer

438 posts

120 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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I think certain elements of the population in Tottenham need an excuse to go out and get some new trainers and televisions with easy credit terms.

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MrBarry123

6,027 posts

121 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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Mr Taxpayer said:
I think certain elements of the population in Tottenham need an excuse to go out and get some new trainers and televisions with easy credit terms.

:/
hehe

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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davidball said:
So the review of the inquest findings may be delayed due to holidays. How convenient.
Yes, "how convenient". Because delaying it a little bit more means... um... an unspecified advantage to those who'd "conspire" to delay it.

The minds of fools...

Although what do we expect from someone who was seriously trying to argue any police involvement with a fatality should automatically be charged with murder and go to Crown Court.

OP, when you don't get the outcome you want, what reasons, excuses and blame do you have mentally stored to shield you from having to consider your own thinking is flawed?

davidball

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731 posts

202 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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It took the Met over 26 years to apologize for shooting an unarmed woman during a raid they eventually conceded should never have taken place. Another catalogue of incompetence and arrogance. I pity you fools who think it is ok to kill unarmed people. Your blindness will let the UK descend into a police state where your every move will be monitored. Oh wait, it already is.

Bohally

943 posts

147 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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He was known to be involved in criminal activity potentially involving firearms.

He played with fire and got burned. No great loss IMO.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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davidball said:
I pity you fools who think it is ok to kill unarmed people. Your blindness will let the UK descend into a police state where your every move will be monitored. Oh wait, it already is.

davidball

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731 posts

202 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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The Met admitted that at the time of the raid he was no longer wanted. His mother died 26 years after the shooting in 2011, at the age of 63, from an illness which a pathologist directly linked to the gunshot injury. What planet are you on?

davidball

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731 posts

202 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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The same goes for La Liga.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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davidball said:
The same goes for La Liga.
I expect Bohally is talking about Duggan, not Groce.

So I am. Obviously.

Nice contradiction in your logic and top double standards BTW. An inquest jury find the police acted lawfully in Duggan and you won't accept that, yet an inquest jury find police failures in Groce and you're happy to accept that.

If it weren't so stupid it'd be funny.


carinaman

21,286 posts

172 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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That officer was lucky their Airwave handset stopped that bullet. Was it pinned to their chest? So about 7-10 inches from their collar bone? If a bullet hits a collar bone where's it going to go?

A close shave?

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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The radio isn't that relevant as the area behind has armour covering it. So does the collar bone, although the part where it's fused to the sternum could be exposed from some angles. It's much closer than 7-10 inches.

They were fortunate to not get shot in the face (below the helmet).


Negative Creep

24,964 posts

227 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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pork911 said:
Lost soul said:
Andehh said:
I'm sorry, this strikes me as a matter of zero importance? How much longer does this need to be dragged on for?

A nasty bit of work got what he deserves. Open and shut case with society cheering from the stands!
yes

Also if anyone seriously thinks a policeman would knowingly shoot an unarmed scrote they are delusional
Since the shooter told the inquest he saw the gun in duggan's hand before both of his own two shots I'm surprised the inquest needed to hear any other evidence at all wink
No you've go tit all wrong. He was good to his mother and once had a trial with Leyton Orient's under 8 B-side. Why I bet there have been countless facebook groups RIP DUGGEN UR SLEPING WIV DA ANGLES NOW set up to protect his name against those evil Police who harassed him just because he was a criminal

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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the accused said:
Oh sorry! I thought she died from causes related to her shooting. If they die some time AFTER the shooting even if it's as a consequence of the shooting that probably doesn't count as murder, does it?
The year and a day rule applied back then, but even now it wouldn't. But since the officer was found not guilty of the required mens rea for a related offence, I can't see how any of it is relevant.

the accused said:
I take it the shooter INTENDED to kill her (or he wouldn't have shot her), so I suppose that must mean a charge of almost equal gravity.
You shoot to stop, not kill.

the accused said:
Hang on! He was exonerated wasn't he? Does that mean the accomplices become automatically exempt from any involvement on a level of blame?
Well if there's no offence in the first place, what do you think?

No crime was intending in the planning and unplanned joint enterprise doesn't exist when it's not foreseen by the others and the principal act is in 'a different league'.

the accused said:
how DID this badged assassin escape the consequences of his actions?
Ask the jury.

the accused said:
Wasn't he (and the accomplices in joint enterprise) also directly responsible for triggering the Brixton Riots?
It really depends on what 'joint enterprise' you're applying. If the actual one, then no. If some made-up fantasy world one, then perhaps.

Feel free to search the internet to learn about it.

Terzo123

4,311 posts

208 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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Some how La Liga, I don't think he'll take any notice. But well done for taking the time to shoot down his post. clap