Terms or phrases that make your skin crawl
Discussion
Tony2or4 said:
Squiggs said:
"I'm going to go to the shop."
No you're not! You're simply "going to the shop"!
I don't see your objection to this one.No you're not! You're simply "going to the shop"!
Whereas 'I'm going to go to the shop' is future tense, 'I'm going to the shop' is present tense, so it has a completely different meaning.
Edited for brevity.
Edited by Tony2or4 on Tuesday 29th July 09:10
It should be 'I'm going to the shop soon' or I'm going to the shop now'
Present tense - I'm going to go and visit my brother - now = Wrong.
Present tense - I'm going to visit my brother - now = Correct.
Future tense - I'm going to go to and visit my brother - tomorrow = Wrong.
Future tense - I'm going to visit my brother - tomorrow = Correct.
Saying '... going to go ....' is grammatically incorrect (it's a bit like the double negative thing - E.g. He didn't see nothing) and saying it without any further explanation could imply either present or future tense.
But I guess this isn't the 'Grammatically incorrect phrases that make your skin crawl' thread
- Even using it the past tense (E.g. 'I was going to go to the shops - but ...) is wrong.
Edited by Squiggs on Tuesday 29th July 22:20
Edited by Squiggs on Tuesday 29th July 22:23
Edited by Squiggs on Tuesday 29th July 22:24
torqueofthedevil said:
Only ever heard people from Leeds say this but, when they agree with something you say and they say, "not many"!
E.g.
- it'll take you ages to do that!
- not many!
Not heard that for ages. About 30 years ago (in Essex) I used to hear 'Not many Benny' - which used to get shortened.E.g.
- it'll take you ages to do that!
- not many!
Squiggs said:
Tony2or4 said:
Squiggs said:
(Comment about 'going to go')
(Opposite point of view)It should be 'I'm going to the shop soon' or I'm going to the shop now'
Present tense - I'm going to go and visit my brother - now = Wrong.
Present tense - I'm going to visit my brother - now = Correct.
Future tense - I'm going to go to and visit my brother - tomorrow = Wrong.
Future tense - I'm going to visit my brother - tomorrow = Correct.
Saying '... going to go ....' is grammatically incorrect (it's a bit like the double negative thing - E.g. He didn't see nothing) and saying it without any further explanation could imply either present or future tense.
- Even using it the past tense (E.g. 'I was going to go to the shops - but ...) is wrong.
I agree that your two 'going to go and visit' examples, with the extra verb following the 'go', just sound inane - but they're fundamentally different from 'I'm going to go to the shop'.
In contexts like the 'shop' example, I'm going to is being used synonymously with I will (or even I am intending to), whereas the subsequent go is being used in its literal sense of 'to travel somewhere' - and admittedly when you get both of these different meanings of the verb to go together in the same sentence, then 'going to go' can sound strange - but that doesn't make it grammatically incorrect.
If you adjust 'I'm going to go to the shop' to 'I'm intending to walk to the shop' then it makes perfect sense.
As another example, the sentence 'When I reach the M61, I will drive very quickly' could be phrased as 'When I reach the M61, I'm going to go very quickly' - and again it makes perfect sense.
Strictly speaking, the sentence 'I'm going to the shop soon' is wrong, because it's using a present tense to express a future action: it should be 'I will be going to the shop soon' (though this is the sort of grammatical mistake we all make all the time in everyday conversation).
'I was going to go to the shops - but ...': means the same as 'I was intending to walk to the shop but..', whereas 'I was going to the shops - but ...' means 'I was actually en route to the shop, but...': both of these are correct - they just convey different meanings.
CarlT said:
The other one is "Guys" - when someone is sending to a group or presenting to a group. So, annoying!
I can't be doing with that at all. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3Zj9ZBsyU
SteveC72 said:
"Guys""All good"
"At the end of the day"
"To be honest"
"Not being funny, but"
"Doth thy cap"
"Totally swamped"
"CC me in"
"No I in team"
"Just so we're all on the same page"
All I'm sure have come up already, but tbh I'm totally swamped so just dropping them in again CC style so we're on the same page
torqueofthedevil said:
Also - "off of"
E.g It's either
Off the tv
Or
Best of the team
Not off of the tv
Or
Best off of the team!
Doesn't make sense. It's an Americanism which I remember hearing Scott mills on radio 1 use years ago - now there's loads at it
It's not an Americanism, it's a south of England thing of very long standing. 'Off the TV' means it's not on the TV; i.e. it's been withdrawn. 'Off of the TV' means that it has been lifted from television, or copied from a programme. Perfectly logical.E.g It's either
Off the tv
Or
Best of the team
Not off of the tv
Or
Best off of the team!
Doesn't make sense. It's an Americanism which I remember hearing Scott mills on radio 1 use years ago - now there's loads at it
Off of my car means that I removed it and here it is. Off my car means it's no longer on it. Subtle, but different.
torqueofthedevil said:
Also - "off of"
E.g It's either
Off the tv
Or
Best of the team
Not off of the tv
Or
Best off of the team!
Doesn't make sense. It's an Americanism which I remember hearing Scott mills on radio 1 use years ago - now there's loads at it
Scott Mills does it on purpose. Others are imbeciles.E.g It's either
Off the tv
Or
Best of the team
Not off of the tv
Or
Best off of the team!
Doesn't make sense. It's an Americanism which I remember hearing Scott mills on radio 1 use years ago - now there's loads at it
Squiggs said:
- Even using it the past tense (E.g. 'I was going to go to the shops - but ...) is wrong.
"I was going to the shops but...." implies the decision as made en route.
"I was going to go to the shop but...." means the decision to do something else was made before actually leaving to go to the shops
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