Exhaust back box

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dtr

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71 posts

116 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Hi,

My exhaust back box has been diagnosed with rust and holes. The dealer quoted £304 for the job.

The car is 06' 1.9TDI Seat Toledo and may be in my possession for 1-2 years max.

Could I expect to get a reasonable quality job done for less elsewhere, and how quickly does it need fixing? I can't say the car feels bad in any way. Do I fit straight replacement or look for straight pass options, etc (same-ish money). Thanks.

edit: here is the pic

Edited by dtr on Sunday 13th July 18:16

andyiley

9,106 posts

151 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Phone around your local fast fit centres & play them off against each other, you will probably get it done for 60% of that.

Or do it yourself with ebay/ECP parts for half.

dtr

Original Poster:

71 posts

116 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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andyiley said:
Phone around your local fast fit centres & play them off against each other, you will probably get it done for 60% of that.

Or do it yourself with ebay/ECP parts for half.
Thanks. Will phone them as I am no good at welding, etc.

imagineifyeswill

1,224 posts

165 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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dealer prices for exhausts are allways horrendous, probably about half that from exhaust centre, even less from moteor factors and fit youself.

226bhp

10,203 posts

127 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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OE exhausts last a heck of a long time, cheap aftermarket ones certainly don't.

paintman

7,669 posts

189 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Buy one with a decent warranty, eg Bosal 3 year.

Snake the Sniper

2,544 posts

200 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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dtr said:
Thanks. Will phone them as I am no good at welding, etc.
What would you need to weld? As long as you have some spanners for ever Seat use to join the exhaust sections together you're good to go. They only hang on big rubber grommet things.

dtr

Original Poster:

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116 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Snake the Sniper said:
What would you need to weld? As long as you have some spanners for ever Seat use to join the exhaust sections together you're good to go. They only hang on big rubber grommet things.
The rods holding the tailpipe need replacing and welding on too. I doubt I can get away with that myself.

andyiley

9,106 posts

151 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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dtr said:
The rods holding the tailpipe need replacing and welding on too. I doubt I can get away with that myself.
If you are refering to the rods that are used to hang the back box/pipe on the rubbers, they come attached!

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

254 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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That doesn't look like a Toledo back box, they don't sit transversely like that. Are you sure you don't mean Altea?

There should be no welding needed, the new back box will come with the mounting points already welded on, they simply need to be threaded through the rubber hangers.

dtr

Original Poster:

71 posts

116 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Mr2Mike said:
That doesn't look like a Toledo back box, they don't sit transversely like that. Are you sure you don't mean Altea?

There should be no welding needed, the new back box will come with the mounting points already welded on, they simply need to be threaded through the rubber hangers.
Altea and Toledo are pretty much identical cars except for tailgate design...

are these mounting points called mid-section bracket or something similar or is that another thing I haven't located?

andyiley

9,106 posts

151 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Instead of using up your time on an internet forum trying to find out information we may not have to hand, why not just ring round your local exhaust fitting centres & go get it done?

You could have had it fitted by now.

dtr

Original Poster:

71 posts

116 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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andyiley said:
Instead of using up your time on an internet forum trying to find out information we may not have to hand, why not just ring round your local exhaust fitting centres & go get it done?

You could have had it fitted by now.
I'm sorry, I could have had it fitted at £304 on saturday, but not today or any other day this week. Is it wrong to find out about my own car and save some cash for new set of tyres?

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

254 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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dtr said:
Altea and Toledo are pretty much identical cars except for tailgate design...
They share many similarities, but the exhaust is not one of them.

Toledo 1.9 TDi exhaust:


Altea 1.9 TDi exhaust:


dtr said:
are these mounting points called mid-section bracket or something similar or is that another thing I haven't located?
The mounting points I think you are referring to are simply part of the rear exhaust box so have no separate name. The rubber mountings that the rear exhaust hangs from (VAR36 and DNR45 in the above diagram) will cost a few pounds each if you need to buy new ones.

dtr

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Monday 14th July 2014
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Mr2Mike said:
They share many similarities, but the exhaust is not one of them.
Thanks for the schemes. The car is certainly a Toledo with big silver letters on the curvy tailgate and dealership papers to match but it is clearly like the bottom pic. Maybe the layout changed at some point during the production cycle, or there are differences between DPF and non-DPF (mine) version? I don't know what else to suggest.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

254 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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dtr said:
Thanks for the schemes. The car is certainly a Toledo with big silver letters on the curvy tailgate and dealership papers to match but it is clearly like the bottom pic. Maybe the layout changed at some point during the production cycle, or there are differences between DPF and non-DPF (mine) version? I don't know what else to suggest.
It's certainly possible. 2006 is the last year that the Toledo was made I think, so maybe Seat adopted the Altea exhaust to reduce parts inventory for a run out model. Annoying when manufacturers do this though, makes getting the wrong part much more likely (especially from EuroCarParts IME!).

paintman

7,669 posts

189 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Have a play with the Bosal on-line catalogue.
I've already entered the details you gave & the majority have the transverse rear box as shown in your pic.
http://www.catalogue.bosal.com/pages/exh_system_li...