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I have ditched my RX100 and a whole swathe of Canon APS-C lenses (just left with a 70D + portrait lens) so I can move to a lighter system for holidays and regular use. Quite tempted to get an EOS-M and 22mm pancake because it's cheap enough (£300) - appreciate the focusing isn't as fast as with newer DSLRs - but any reason why this would be a bad choice, primarily as I do like low-light capability which is a weak point of most compacts. Also does anyone have an EOS-M2 (and where did you buy it?)
Edited by fido on Monday 14th July 13:43
Apart from the slow AF there's nothing itinerantly wrong with it, it's just Canon were late to the CSC game and everyone else seems to be doing a better job of it. If it was my money I would be looking at a Fuji X-E1 which can be had for £365 with an 18mm lens - http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/fuji-x-e1-with-18m...
Or buy the X-E1 with the 18-55 bundled lens and qualify for a free 50-230mm zoom, current Fuji promotion,
http://www.fujifilm.eu/uk/products/digital-cameras...
http://www.fujifilm.eu/uk/products/digital-cameras...
From experience, just make sure you have spare batteries - the standard Canon battery is good for about 190-210 shots. The constant rear screen chews a fair amount of juice. After market batteries fair worse.
The auto-focus isn't too bad although slower than my G15, the picture quality more than makes up for it. Good choice with the 22mm f/2. Another good ef-m lens is the 11-22mm but the downside to that is the cost.
The auto-focus isn't too bad although slower than my G15, the picture quality more than makes up for it. Good choice with the 22mm f/2. Another good ef-m lens is the 11-22mm but the downside to that is the cost.
DevilYellowCV8 said:
From experience, just make sure you have spare batteries - the standard Canon battery is good for about 190-210 shots. The constant rear screen chews a fair amount of juice. After market batteries fair worse.
The auto-focus isn't too bad although slower than my G15, the picture quality more than makes up for it. Good choice with the 22mm f/2. Another good ef-m lens is the 11-22mm but the downside to that is the cost.
Just an additional note on battery life for CSC cameras. On my NEX-6 I have noted that the EVF seems to eat more juice than the rear screen, but the biggest chewer of battery seems to be the AF + Optical IS in te lenses. Since I have been using a fully manual lens on mine with an adapter the battery lasts for blummin ages!The auto-focus isn't too bad although slower than my G15, the picture quality more than makes up for it. Good choice with the 22mm f/2. Another good ef-m lens is the 11-22mm but the downside to that is the cost.
£199.99 now...
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5...
Bang for buck that's hard to beat.
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5...
Bang for buck that's hard to beat.
ukaskew said:
£199.99 now...
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5...
Bang for buck that's hard to beat.
That is incredible, especially with all the EOS lenses you can get on ebay.http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5...
Bang for buck that's hard to beat.
Is there anything comparable?
the-photographer said:
That is incredible, especially with all the EOS lenses you can get on ebay.
Is there anything comparable?
Not new. Though I think DigitalRev do a good price on the 22mm kit (which costs a fair bit more than a 18-55). Is there anything comparable?
I got someone's holiday wishlist (EOS-M + 22mm + Canon wrist-strap + Lowepro case) for £250. Have a feeling the M3 will arrive later this year hence the price falls. In which case they'll be some eBay bargains to be had.
Mine arrived from Argos this morning (the £199.99 kit of EOS M + 18-55mm + 90EX flash). All feels very well made and the auto focus is a lot quicker than I was expecting. Not quite sure why it's kept that bad reputation for slow AF after the firmware update. It's not as fast as a 5D mk iii with a 70-200 L lens, but it's certainly no slouch. The kit lens is a bit soft wide open, but quickly sharpens up when stopped down. Only taken a few test shots, but am liking it so far. Certainly seems to fill the gap in terms of size vs image quality between my S95 and the 5D's I have for work.
I think the 22mm f/2.0 pancake lens will be making it's way onto my wishlist very soon
I think the 22mm f/2.0 pancake lens will be making it's way onto my wishlist very soon
It's a massively underrated camera. The 3 EF-M lenses available are well made and optically very, very good (11-22mm Ultra-wide and 22mm pancake are exceptional) and the kit 18-55mm is a cut above the usual supplied kit lens. The EF adapter is also another good investment if you want to 'play' a little with the camera and your other lenses (as an aside, some functions of Tamron lenses ie VC and AF won't work or register on the M - the SP 17-50 Di II VC is an example).
Oh, and it's fully compatable with the ST-E3 / 600EX-RT set up's for those who like to play with their off camera flash.
Oh, and it's fully compatable with the ST-E3 / 600EX-RT set up's for those who like to play with their off camera flash.
DevilYellowCV8 said:
It's a massively underrated camera. The 3 EF-M lenses available are well made and optically very, very good (11-22mm Ultra-wide and 22mm pancake are exceptional) and the kit 18-55mm is a cut above the usual supplied kit lens. The EF adapter is also another good investment if you want to 'play' a little with the camera and your other lenses (as an aside, some functions of Tamron lenses ie VC and AF won't work or register on the M - the SP 17-50 Di II VC is an example).
I echo all that. I'm a long term Canon DSLR user with a couple of Canon bodies and a bag full of lenses. I've had my M with EF-M 18-55, EF-M 22/2 and EF convertor for 6 months now and except when I'm going out specifically to shoot action - my 7D doesn't see the light of day.It's a real shame that it got such a bad reputation for the perceived shortcomings of the AF speed - entirely as a consequence of people who'd never used it regurgitating what they've read on internet forums. It's not an action camera but for anything else it's great and I really like the touch screen focusing. The only thing that I don't like is the way the AF hunts in very low light.
I really hope that Canon continue to invest in this format with more lenses and progressively better bodies - as above the current EF-M lenses are great both optically and in build quality - much nicer than the high end EF-S lenses which despite being excellent optically are shockingly plasticy for what they cost.
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